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Post by Stew on Nov 21, 2021 11:18:41 GMT
Did you watch any Spanish football recently? No its 5hit to watch, but Spanish football has no bearing on the EPL, until just recently when Barca and Madrid have declined as proven by results in the CL the Spanish league was a 2 horse race. I personally rate AVB and he would be as good as Zidane or Brenda if he was properly backed with lots of cash to spend. Jochim Low is another who could be good too. Whatever anyone believes or says Carrick is NOT the answer even as an interim, we would be far better getting Big Sam in till seasons end on a weekly rolling contract. It’s a 3 team league. He’s also won as many European Cups as a manager as Utd has in is entire history.
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Post by redcase on Nov 21, 2021 11:25:24 GMT
Andre Vilas Boas? Sorry but is this a wind up? Just throwing some other names out there, I actually personally rate AVB as he is a young manager with attack minded tactics and I think if he is properly backed he could do well somewhere.
Zidane has only been at RM as a manager a 2 team league and as much cash as he wants to spend on players, Brenda seems to have problems longterm with man management as he is again now and Ten Hag has a team that plays the Ajax way, a system that works in that league and may or may not work week in week out in the EPL. Conte was most likely the best choice but that ship has sailed. Whoever we get the Club must back him to the hilt as they did Ole. time will tell.
You rate AVB? Based on which spell? Shanghai? Zenit? Covid shortened season at Marseille? I can't believe I'm having an actual conversation about fucking Andre Vilas Boas. Is it 2011?
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Post by Deez on Nov 21, 2021 11:29:46 GMT
The Brodge would be ideal for me. But same as a few on here, would be happy with Zidane or Ten Hag.
Reckon Conte is thinking he should have waited a bit longer but again, no chance the board would have signed off on the level of control Conte would have put into any agreement.
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Post by Monty on Nov 21, 2021 11:30:51 GMT
So Carrick is going to be interim interim manager until we find an interim manager before we hire a full time manager? Sounds about standard for this club.
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Post by hogshead on Nov 21, 2021 11:36:13 GMT
Just throwing some other names out there, I actually personally rate AVB as he is a young manager with attack minded tactics and I think if he is properly backed he could do well somewhere.
Zidane has only been at RM as a manager a 2 team league and as much cash as he wants to spend on players, Brenda seems to have problems longterm with man management as he is again now and Ten Hag has a team that plays the Ajax way, a system that works in that league and may or may not work week in week out in the EPL. Conte was most likely the best choice but that ship has sailed. Whoever we get the Club must back him to the hilt as they did Ole. time will tell.
You rate AVB? Based on which spell? Shanghai? Zenit? Covid shortened season at Marseille? I can't believe I'm having an actual conversation about fucking Andre Vilas Boas. Is it 2011? I rate AVB and think that he will do very well somewhere when he is properly backed longterm and financially in a country of his choosings transfer market, you can disagree and we can agree to disagree, I dislike Zidane and I do not rate him, you may like him so be it as he isnt coming here anyway, the job is probably too big for him and he is not capable.
What the board and the owners have allegedly decided to do with Carrick as interim until we can get another interim is far far worse than anyone could have imagined, except sticking with Ole until the end of his contract. Carrick is firstly a huge part of the problem we already have and appointing an interim means that the board will have control of the purse strings in any future transfers.
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Post by redcase on Nov 21, 2021 11:42:10 GMT
You rate AVB? Based on which spell? Shanghai? Zenit? Covid shortened season at Marseille? I can't believe I'm having an actual conversation about fucking Andre Vilas Boas. Is it 2011? I rate AVB and think that he will do very well somewhere when he is properly backed longterm and financially in a country of his choosings transfer market, you can disagree and we can agree to disagree, I dislike Zidane and I do not rate him, you may like him so be it as he isnt coming here anyway, the job is probably too big for him and he is not capable. What the board and the owners have allegedly decided to do with Carrick as interim until we can get another interim is far far worse than anyone could have imagined, except sticking with Ole until the end of his contract. Carrick is firstly a huge part of the problem we already have and appointing an interim means that the board will have control of the purse strings in any future transfers. So Zidane who has won multiple trophies at Real Madrid would find this job too big but Andre Vilas Boas would do well. Got it.
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Post by Tatty on Nov 21, 2021 11:51:48 GMT
It’ll be Zidane, because the people who run this business only like Hollywood. And it’ll the wrong choice. Again.
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Post by hogshead on Nov 21, 2021 11:55:49 GMT
I rate AVB and think that he will do very well somewhere when he is properly backed longterm and financially in a country of his choosings transfer market, you can disagree and we can agree to disagree, I dislike Zidane and I do not rate him, you may like him so be it as he isnt coming here anyway, the job is probably too big for him and he is not capable. What the board and the owners have allegedly decided to do with Carrick as interim until we can get another interim is far far worse than anyone could have imagined, except sticking with Ole until the end of his contract. Carrick is firstly a huge part of the problem we already have and appointing an interim means that the board will have control of the purse strings in any future transfers. So Zidane who has won multiple trophies at Real Madrid would find this job too big but Andre Vilas Boas would do well. Got it. Get this...Zidane has only ever had fortunes to spend in a mostly 2 team league until recently when both Real and Barca have declined as their more recent CL results will confirm. Some say its a 3 team league but it shouldnt be.
Spanish football is different to the EPL too and as Zidane was not proven in other leagues as well as the Spanish one, he could prove to be an expensive failure. If you think differently we can and will have to simply agree to disagree. We have bigger problems than to discuss which manager is best as we can all see that the board have fudged to keep control of the purse strings at OT.
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Post by Monty on Nov 21, 2021 12:04:47 GMT
I forgot AVB even existed, to be honest. I think that says a lot.
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Post by redcase on Nov 21, 2021 12:13:28 GMT
It’ll be Zidane, because the people who run this business only like Hollywood. And it’ll the wrong choice. Again. We are out of options though. Two out of the 3 best picks are employed and would not leave mid season. If we can be assured that ten Hag would be brought in next summer then I'd be happy to wait. If a permanent manager is not installed we could be doing this all over again with Carrick.
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Post by Kojak on Nov 21, 2021 12:15:03 GMT
We have no plan. Surprise, surprise.
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Post by weebay on Nov 21, 2021 12:15:28 GMT
Interim manager. Imagine writing the season off with this squad.
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Post by seanie on Nov 21, 2021 12:16:51 GMT
Carrick is going to do an Avram Grant/Di Matteo I don't think many people really appreciate how bad that midfield is and that RB situation. That was the thing as much as anything about Solskjaer that really fucked me off. This notion that he was doing a great job in recruitment, when really it was terrible with a load of money being pushed at some mediocrity AWB, Maguire, James. He doesn't know what to do with DVB and Sancho He never did anything about that CM despite the same issues and the same players being obvious when Mourinho was there! He had 6 months as Interim Coach and then 3 transfer windows and the Jan windows to sort that out and it should have been the priority. Matic and Mata should have been fucked off years ago and Fred sold in his first window! Pogba should have been sold 2nd window McTominay is not some academy newbie he's been in the first team for 4/5 years and he is nowhere near good enough for first choice. Pogba is a fucking moron who has never performed for us. That should have been his priority to sort that crucial area out and any manager coming in has to buy 2/3 midfield players and a decent RB A mananger is only half the battle, because they have to sort out the Executive level. It's quite unbelievable how bad it's been run and how much money has been wasted in the last 8 years
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Post by Stew on Nov 21, 2021 12:23:06 GMT
I rate AVB and think that he will do very well somewhere when he is properly backed longterm and financially in a country of his choosings transfer market, you can disagree and we can agree to disagree, I dislike Zidane and I do not rate him, you may like him so be it as he isnt coming here anyway, the job is probably too big for him and he is not capable. What the board and the owners have allegedly decided to do with Carrick as interim until we can get another interim is far far worse than anyone could have imagined, except sticking with Ole until the end of his contract. Carrick is firstly a huge part of the problem we already have and appointing an interim means that the board will have control of the purse strings in any future transfers. So Zidane who has won multiple trophies at Real Madrid would find this job too big but Andre Vilas Boas would do well. Got it. I mean...
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Post by bushy1987 on Nov 21, 2021 12:29:47 GMT
Seems to be a bit more chatter about Luis Enrique, and he seems interested in the job too, with the quality of team we have now Conte was the one who comes in and gets us challenging straight away, any other coach at this point is going to require time, iv got zero faith we will make the correct choice.
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