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Post by JamBritRed on Dec 8, 2020 14:24:05 GMT
no lie, if Raiola remains his agent I stay far away from Haaland.
undoubtedly talented but not worth the annoyance of having that meddling git anywhere near the club.
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Post by SAF_Legend on Dec 8, 2020 14:49:32 GMT
Is he still here?
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Post by alwaysUnited on Dec 8, 2020 15:23:15 GMT
no lie, if Raiola remains his agent I stay far away from Haaland. undoubtedly talented but not worth the annoyance of having that meddling git anywhere near the club. I wouldn't blacklist Raiola's players , unless all the top clubs are willing to do the same. Main issue here is the player , pogba wants out and he is just making the fat cunt say all these things which he cant. That doesn't mean his other players are going to be like that. Deligt , Haaland looks like top pros from what we have seen. Not to forget Zlatan |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Dec 8, 2020 15:28:23 GMT
8 years and we are still disappointed
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 8, 2020 15:58:41 GMT
no lie, if Raiola remains his agent I stay far away from Haaland. undoubtedly talented but not worth the annoyance of having that meddling git anywhere near the club. I wouldn't blacklist Raiola's players , unless all the top clubs are willing to do the same. Main issue here is the player , pogba wants out and he is just making the fat cunt say all these things which he cant. That doesn't mean his other players are going to be like that. Deligt , Haaland looks like top pros from what we have seen. Not to forget Zlatan Agree with this, I used to think differently but that was emotion rather than logic. Players are signing up with him for a reason, it's just a shame most players aren't as professional as Zlatan. |
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Post by Paul on Dec 8, 2020 16:34:54 GMT
Not his greatest fan but hes spot on here. Why are the other usual outspoken ex players not saying the same thing. Evra, Neville Rio. Wheres their take on this. Stop blaming the fucking agent. The player knows exactly what hes doing.
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Post by mightyez on Dec 8, 2020 17:29:47 GMT
It’s Evra I’d like to hear what he has to say now.
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Post by Paul on Dec 8, 2020 17:49:41 GMT
It’s Evra I’d like to hear what he has to say now. Unfortunately they'll just condemn Raiola for it. None of them seem to have the bollocks to speak the truth about it all. |
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Post by Kojak on Dec 8, 2020 18:07:06 GMT
Not his greatest fan but hes spot on here. Why are the other usual outspoken ex players not saying the same thing. Evra, Neville Rio. Wheres their take on this. Stop blaming the fucking agent. The player knows exactly what hes doing. Legitimately the best thing he’s ever said. Couldn’t agree more. |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Dec 8, 2020 18:16:09 GMT
To hell with this nonsense. He’s no Bruno. Madrid have plenty of good players we can swap him for in January (seeing as though any transfer fee would just be eaten up in dividends.) He shouldn’t see the field again until he’s at another club. I read somewhere that Pogba is upset that Bruno is getting played in the attacking midfielder role instead of him. Presumably he thinks he'd do as well or better than Bruno has. Imagine being that deluded? |
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Post by Stretty on Dec 8, 2020 18:33:13 GMT
To hell with this nonsense. He’s no Bruno. Madrid have plenty of good players we can swap him for in January (seeing as though any transfer fee would just be eaten up in dividends.) He shouldn’t see the field again until he’s at another club. I read somewhere that Pogba is upset that Bruno is getting played in the attacking midfielder role instead of him. Presumably he thinks he'd do as well or better than Bruno has. Imagine being that deluded? hes not the big star here now that’s wanting to go up a level. we don’t need him and he’s throwing a strop fuck him |
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Post by Kojak on Dec 8, 2020 18:35:23 GMT
To hell with this nonsense. He’s no Bruno. Madrid have plenty of good players we can swap him for in January (seeing as though any transfer fee would just be eaten up in dividends.) He shouldn’t see the field again until he’s at another club. I read somewhere that Pogba is upset that Bruno is getting played in the attacking midfielder role instead of him. Presumably he thinks he'd do as well or better than Bruno has. Imagine being that deluded? Wonder if Bruno being the big character in the dressing room now has upset him too? |
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Post by Stretty on Dec 8, 2020 18:58:08 GMT
I read somewhere that Pogba is upset that Bruno is getting played in the attacking midfielder role instead of him. Presumably he thinks he'd do as well or better than Bruno has. Imagine being that deluded? I bet Utd shirts with Fernandes on the back outsell pogba ones by at least 50-1 |
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Post by Reduntildeath on Dec 8, 2020 19:11:20 GMT
Pretty good article from Sam Luckhurst from MEN.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer spent much of lockdown watching The Sopranos and Mino Raiola dresses like a capo who possibly spends his days in the back room of the Bada Bing!, dressed like Paulie Walnuts and counting his money.
Paulie could usually be relied upon to carry out a task but even he came a cropper with a 'Czechoslovakian interior decorator'. Paul Pogba is still at Manchester United 18 months longer than Raiola had planned and the Neapolitan is becoming as desperate as two mafiosos aimlessly wandering in the wintry woods.There was much amusement in the football industry at the timing of Raiola's proclamation it was 'over' between Pogba and United and he intends to move his client in the January transfer window. A source who has dealt with Raiola and Pogba derided the fact Raiola had piped up two days after Pogba’s second Premier League goal from open play in 22 months.
An Italian source suggested the Turin-based newspaper Tuttosport, whom Raiola had spoken to, ran the quotes earlier than Raiola had expected as he had granted the 'paper access after his other client, Erling Haaland, had received the outlet’s Golden Boy orb.
Raiola's sympathisers posted alternative translations, as if he had been misquoted, that still carried the quotes 'Paul is unhappy at Manchester United' and 'I think the best solution for all concerned is if he moves in the next window'.
Irrespective of the timing, Raiola knew he was on the record and knew he would inflame Pogba’s situation. United declined to comment as it would have poured fuel onto the fire ahead of tonight's pivotal match with RB Leipzig.
Raiola has form for this, having embarked on a hysterical Twitter tirade against Ole Gunnar Solskjaer minutes before United kicked off at Chelsea in February. Solskjaer has not been forceful enough in dismissing Raiola and he risibly alluded to a 'media agenda' against Pogba in Perth last year, even though the World Cup winner had outlined his desire for a ‘new challenge somewhere else’.
United outpriced Pogba, valued at £180million in the summer of 2019, and may retrospectively regret not agreeing a compromise. Pogba has since become injury-prone, seldom reached his world-class ceiling, lost his first-team status and concedes more penalties than he scores goals.
Pogba has sniped at United from France’s training base at Clairefontaine and his national coach Didier Deschamps has done some of the talking for him. "I think the press sometimes makes more of it," Solskjaer said in response to Deschamps' assertion Pogba 'cannot be happy'.
That supine treatment has got United nowhere and, for all Mikel Arteta's flaws as a coach, he has sidelined Arsenal's overpaid and flaky star player to hasten their period of transition.
United have overindulged Pogba, countenancing his revelling in the sacking of a manager, jet-setting whilst injured and readjusting the timeframe of his return date from injury so often it suggested medical incompetence.
When Raiola went on the record in an interview with the Telegraph a year ago he stressed he was 'sorry' not to have moved Pogba to Real Madrid yet United figures drew attention to Raiola clarifying Pogba would like to win silverware with United. They could not see the wood for the trees but can see clearly now.
Two years ago, Pogba was on the bench for United, the club backed him and sacked a manager now at the summit of the Premier League. Pogba has been on the bench again this month but this time the club will not be backing him.
'His Excellency' - the moniker Mourinho bequeathed Pogba - has not been excellent and Pogba's stock has dropped like a stone. Tottenham staff were pleased Pogba started in their 6-1 trouncing of United in October and a Premier League coach opined United needed to drop Pogba to start winning again. He has started in two of their 11 triumphs this term.
A source at Carrington told a story where Pogba entered the first-team dressing room clad in ostentatious clothing that turned heads. As he approached his locker, a voice in the background piped up.
"Hey, what do you think this is? The circus? This is not the circus, this is Manchester United," Zlatan Ibrahimovic half-jokingly chirped
After Ibrahimovic left for the LA Galaxy in March 2018, Pogba again arrived at Carrington garbed in more designer gear. One witness, taking Ibrahimovic's cue, described Pogba as a 'clown' but the clothing caught the attention of another teammate.
Jesse Lingard approached Pogba and marvelled at his attire. He asked Pogba where he had got it from. "You can't get this, it was made just for me," Pogba replied.
The lack of seniority with a presence akin to Ibrahimovic caused Pogba's ego to swell and France's World Cup win was not celebrated by everyone at Carrington, where the squad watched the 2018 final before flying to the United States for their pre-season tour. "Now we are f****d," one figure present laughed.
Jose Mourinho is understood to have found his dismissal such a shock as Woodward had backed his treatment of Pogba and actually encouraged the authoritative approach. Pogba was on the bench for three of Mourinho's last four fixtures in charge.
Pogba has wanted out of United for close to three years and coaching staff lamented his selfishness to a first-team player after the February 2018 defeat to Newcastle. It transpired, as dramatically revealed by Pep Guardiola on the eve of the Manchester derby in April, that Raiola had offered Pogba to Manchester City in January
United kept mum and Ed Woodward eventually accepted Pogba's conduct did not chime with the 'humble and respectful' criteria the club demand from players. Woodward has attempted to remain phlegmatic on the topic of Pogba but concedes Raiola is 'very, very influential
Pogba's popularity has not waned among teammates who regard him as the best player at United and his closest friends at the club - Victor Lindelof, Andreas Pereira and Juan Mata - are understanding of the appeal of Madrid. For upwards of a year, most of Pogba's teammates have felt it in the best interests of all parties that Pogba goes.
Pogba's wife, Zulay, hails from Bolivia and relocating to a Spanish-speaking country appeals to a player who initially wanted to move to Madrid in 2016 until Raiola advised him on a Manchester homecoming.
A reunion with Juventus appeals to Raiola, who has resorted to such drastic measures as showing solidarity with Woodward following the attack on his Cheshire home in January on social media only to then use capital letters in a rambling note that Solskjaer 'DO NOT WANT TO SUGGEST THAT PAUL IS HIS PRISONER'.
An Italian agent suspected Raiola's Instagram upload was an olive branch to Woodward to ensure a smooth sale of Pogba, though that negotiation tactic was undermined by his next tweet 19 days later slating Solskjaer.
Woodward, once seen reacting giddily to receiving a phone call from Jorge Mendes, has expressed his admiration for Raiola and accepted his Pogba soundbites are 'part of a game'. Woodward was a participant when Pogba contacted him to clear his infamous departure from Burnley's Turf Moor in a Rolls-Royce rather than board the team coach after Mourinho had denied him permission to leave separately.
United have another Pogba exit to clear.
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Post by hogshead on Dec 12, 2020 11:21:17 GMT
Wonder if Bruno being the big character in the dressing room now has upset him too? I bet Utd shirts with Fernandes on the back outsell pogba ones by at least 50-1 They probably do now but allegedly after the Board agreed to sign Pogba before JM arrived Shirt sales with his name on the back of them surpassed 200 million quid within 3 weeks. No wonder the board wanted him so badly and Adidas like him too. |
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