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Post by karthy on Jun 8, 2013 19:00:13 GMT
I can;t understand this England Team and the Tactics. All the football teams seem to be improving both tactically and all England seem to come up with is mostly playing Crouch or Andy or in this case Wickham or Zaha up front and lob balls with the hope of catching the defender out. Talk about going Ancient.. and yet they are ready to talk of winning the Cups or after another..
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Post by Bestie on Jun 8, 2013 19:26:50 GMT
Good grief, Italy are good. Veratti is some player to have come from the Italian second division in the space of a year.
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Post by SAF_Legend on Jun 9, 2013 0:23:15 GMT
I think... perhaps rather than trying to coach English players differently and spending big moolah on academies and the lot, we should also be sending English coaches overseas to Germany, Spain, Italy and Japan even on training programmes / courses.
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Post by stretfordend on Jun 9, 2013 8:42:15 GMT
It doesn't help when the FA decide some players will not go to the tournament because the senior team has some friendlies to play in.
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Post by Boon on Jun 9, 2013 9:31:18 GMT
Pearce has decided to blame the players completely rather than shifting any of the blame on the way the team was coached.
Right ..
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Post by Kojak on Jun 9, 2013 10:44:00 GMT
This is what happens when you put a glorified P.E teacher in charge of the apparent "future" of English football. The job should really be given to a progressive young manager or at least a manager who recognises the need for new ideas and a fluent transition between U21 level and the senior side. I feel for Pearce. It was always going to be a tough tournament for him without his key men Milner and Ste Taylor.
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Post by redom on Jun 9, 2013 10:53:40 GMT
I think... perhaps rather than trying to coach English players differently and spending big moolah on academies and the lot, we should also be sending English coaches overseas to Germany, Spain, Italy and Japan even on training programmes / courses. I'm not saying this isn't a good idea because I think getting more experience for both coaches and players in different footballing cultures is one thing that our football would hugely benefit from, we're very insular in general, but the coaching courses in this country are apparently very good. I was speaking to a guy who's been doing his badges and he said we get a lot of coaches from abroad coming to the UK to do their pro licences etc. The main problem is we don't get enough coaches of our own coming through these courses to benefit from them and those that do can't get any jobs in youth coaching as it's almost entirely reliant on volunteers in this country for anything u16, outside of the clubs with acadamies of course. Speaking to him made me even more frustrated tbh, we really shoot ourselves in the foot in a lot of ways and makes you wonder if we'll ever get our act together and really sort our grassroots out. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 9, 2013 14:05:01 GMT
Ori Cooper @coopsport 2h
Got the official NED vs RUS UEFA U21 scouts list. Manchester United chief scout Jim Lawlor is in. Kevin Strootman? #u21euro #mufc
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Post by karthy on Jun 9, 2013 18:15:53 GMT
Saw the match very different Strootman role, more of an Anchor, went forward very few times unlike the way he plays for Club.
Nothing fancy or anything tidy in the role given. That will do good to us if we have actually signed him ( as per rumors).
Funny thing about England is that if they did have a good squad including the ones that are there in the Friendlies they may actually had a chance to win and progress in this ,now they are more a laughing stock. Beyond me as to who comes up with these plans. It shows more the lack of First Team squad than that of the U-21's
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Post by Stew on Jun 9, 2013 18:29:54 GMT
Yeah, much different role for Strootman, shielding his back 4 and letting the likes of maher hit the killer ball. It's actually the Role Carrick plays for Utd, so the versatility is exciting. Tatty mentioned we might get him and Fer for a combined 20 million? That would be brilliant. Fer looks fine fitness-wise and a big strong lad as well.
Thiago coming up for Spain soon.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jun 9, 2013 21:58:26 GMT
Funny how,with different people watching him playing a different role, the opinion on Strootman differs.
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Post by Bestie on Jun 9, 2013 22:05:48 GMT
Anyone else really impressed by Sebastian Rudy for the Germans tonight? Cost them when he came off. Broke up everything he could get to in front og the back four and covered into the box when he couldn't.
Tello didn't impress me at all, all pace and zero end product; they were raving about Isco but Thiago was the main man for me, he controlled it all for Spain.
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Post by Stew on Jun 9, 2013 22:53:20 GMT
Funny how,with different people watching him playing a different role, the opinion on Strootman differs. I think what it is SET, is that he's been billed as a box to box midfielder. Up to this I've seen him 4 o 5 times but not really as singular a role as this. Maybe the Dutch management want a player in there with the discipline to really hold the role? I do think it shows versatity and that is important. One thing that isn't different is that he puts in some hefty challenges. Van Bommel has obviously been showing him a few tricks! |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jun 9, 2013 23:00:14 GMT
I'm all for signing Strootman. He's what we need. But as you said, he does a variety of jobs, yet people judge him based on one game as if that one game shows all there is to him.
People did the same with Carrick at the start.
There seems to be no patience anymore. Why not judge him over the course of the tournament - or have watched him for PSV? There's a reason the scouts have been watching players for up to 2 years in some cases
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Post by Stew on Jun 10, 2013 5:29:32 GMT
^ The truth.
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