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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 24, 2014 10:26:59 GMT
Tried to find a similar thread but couldn't.
Seeing as we're all so clued up on football tactics I thought there must be some players lurking on the forum.
Recently joined a five-a-side league and I've got to say it's the most fun I've had in years. Artificial pitch, netted perimiter and under floodlights with your mates - if you haven't already give it a try.
Anyway, a few questions if anyone here is into fives:
We came to the conclusion that a GK-1-2-1 diamond type formation must be the best (?), though as soon as the game kicks off it's almost impossible to keep your shape as you need to be tracking runners everywhere. Time on the ball is virtually null and it's so fast paced - fun, but grueling!
Any tips / comments / anything footy related in a playing sense anyone can contribute?
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Post by Chris on Mar 24, 2014 10:28:56 GMT
Tried to find a similar thread but couldn't. Seeing as we're all so clued up on football tactics I thought there must be some players lurking on the forum. Recently joined a five-a-side league and I've got to say it's the most fun I've had in years. Artificial pitch, netted perimiter and under floodlights with your mates - if you haven't already give it a try. Anyway, a few questions if anyone here is into fives: We came to the conclusion that a GK-1-2-1 diamond type formation must be the best (?), though as soon as the game kicks off it's almost impossible to keep your shape as you need to be tracking runners everywhere. Time on the ball is virtually null and it's so fast paced - fun, but grueling! Any tips / comments / anything footy related in a playing sense anyone can contribute? I didn't realise you had formations in five a side! Is the fat kid your keeper? Standard. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 24, 2014 10:29:39 GMT
Also, on the injury front, anyone here ever have to deal with this bump on the shin under the knee-cap? It's excruciating and following weeks of research I've determined it's an Osgood–Schlatter lesion of the patellar tendon - bleak as and incredibly annoying - I've now gone from a jog 4 times a week to limping through a single footy match once a week  |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 24, 2014 10:31:02 GMT
Tried to find a similar thread but couldn't. Seeing as we're all so clued up on football tactics I thought there must be some players lurking on the forum. Recently joined a five-a-side league and I've got to say it's the most fun I've had in years. Artificial pitch, netted perimiter and under floodlights with your mates - if you haven't already give it a try. Anyway, a few questions if anyone here is into fives: We came to the conclusion that a GK-1-2-1 diamond type formation must be the best (?), though as soon as the game kicks off it's almost impossible to keep your shape as you need to be tracking runners everywhere. Time on the ball is virtually null and it's so fast paced - fun, but grueling! Any tips / comments / anything footy related in a playing sense anyone can contribute? I didn't realise you had formations in five a side! Is the fat kid your keeper? Standard. Haha, ironically the last bit is actually true - he's the only one content to stay back there and not bomb forward on impulse. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 24, 2014 10:35:50 GMT
Tactics: Press high when their 'keeper has it but don't get sucked into closing him down. Just cut out his short options. When attacking, leave one man deeper for cut-backs rather than all going square.
Although, I play Sixes each week, so I'm used to having an extra man who can generally sit.
Osgood–Schlatter usually only occurs in teenagers, are you sure that's what it is? Did you get any knocks or possibly twist it at some stage? Definitely go to the Doc mate, or a sports physio, and get it looked at.
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Post by Chris on Mar 24, 2014 10:42:10 GMT
Wenger loves fives. Well, five years old... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 10:52:57 GMT
I'm playing 11 a side. Hadn't played for about 10 years much to my shock as I switched to fighting. I was a very skinny kid and now a big muscly man so I'm a very different player. I'm playing forward and getting better each pre season game. I was offside but chipped the keeper from about 35 yards last game. Wish I'd kept playing the whole time.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 24, 2014 11:03:32 GMT
Tactics: Press high when their 'keeper has it but don't get sucked into closing him down. Just cut out his short options. When attacking, leave one man deeper for cut-backs rather than all going square. Although, I play Sixes each week, so I'm used to having an extra man who can generally sit. Osgood–Schlatter usually only occurs in teenagers, are you sure that's what it is? Did you get any knocks or possibly twist it at some stage? Definitely go to the Doc mate, or a sports physio, and get it looked at. I'm 95% certain it's O.C. all the symptoms match up and they say that if you had an extremely sporting childhood and teenage period it could have caused damage that could present itself later, when the tissue becomes inflamed again. Going to try icing daily and before footy, it seems to completely numb the pain for a good 35 mins. The only downside is that it only subsides with rest and the only real solution is an operation |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 24, 2014 11:06:09 GMT
I'm playing 11 a side. Hadn't played for about 10 years much to my shock as I switched to fighting. I was a very skinny kid and now a big muscly man so I'm a very different player. I'm playing forward and getting better each pre season game. I was offside but chipped the keeper from about 35 yards last game. Wish I'd kept playing the whole time. Awesome man. Played rugby most of my life but always been kicking and playing with mates. It's completely different not having time on the ball and being pressured though, most of the dribbling & pirouettes go out the window & it seems to be all about awareness, first touch, control, istantly picking the right pass (and subsequently moving) and spotting good runs to make. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 24, 2014 11:08:19 GMT
Tactics: Press high when their 'keeper has it but don't get sucked into closing him down. Just cut out his short options. When attacking, leave one man deeper for cut-backs rather than all going square. That seems to be a decent strategy, having one guy sit in front of the keeper, with two "full-backs" overlapping up and down and a forward on halfway and upwards pressing them in possession & chasing down the keeper if not hitting shots at goal. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 11:13:41 GMT
I'm playing 11 a side. Hadn't played for about 10 years much to my shock as I switched to fighting. I was a very skinny kid and now a big muscly man so I'm a very different player. I'm playing forward and getting better each pre season game. I was offside but chipped the keeper from about 35 yards last game. Wish I'd kept playing the whole time. Awesome man. Played rugby most of my life but always been kicking and playing with mates. It's completely different not having time on the ball and being pressured though, most of the dribbling & pirouettes go out the window & it seems to be all about awareness, first touch, control, istantly picking the right pass (and subsequently moving) and spotting good runs to make. Yeah we do some 5 a side and the hardest part is not having your passes intercepted. It's basically all passing because you don't tackle much, or dribble that much or shoot. You pass the ball into the net. Good for fitness. I played a little Rugby when I was a kid but South Australia is a bubble where Rugby doesn't exist. It's massive in the eastern states. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 24, 2014 11:17:50 GMT
Awesome man. Played rugby most of my life but always been kicking and playing with mates. It's completely different not having time on the ball and being pressured though, most of the dribbling & pirouettes go out the window & it seems to be all about awareness, first touch, control, istantly picking the right pass (and subsequently moving) and spotting good runs to make. Good for fitness. I played a little Rugby when I was a kid but South Australia is a bubble where Rugby doesn't exist. It's massive in the eastern states. It's INTENSIVE fitness. Different muscle sets to being able to run 5 + km comfortably, thought I'd be fine but woah - it's also so difficult not to just want to chase the ball down all the time, played scrumhalf my entire life so you can imagine! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 11:24:52 GMT
Good for fitness. I played a little Rugby when I was a kid but South Australia is a bubble where Rugby doesn't exist. It's massive in the eastern states. It's INTENSIVE fitness. Different muscle sets to being able to run 5 + km comfortably, thought I'd be fine but woah - it's also so difficult not to just want to chase the ball down all the time, played scrumhalf my entire life so you can imagine! I'm fit. I still find as soon as I change what I'm being fit for its starting all over again. I would train two hours of intense pad work and muscle work, but couldn't last two 3 minute rounds in sparring. I would also run 5 k's on days off but would be knackered when I trained for a 12 race ever year which only takes me an hour. I'd then go back to kickboxing and find it extremely tough. Now football I had to be subbed off at half time the first couple of practice games, only 40 mins. |
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Post by SAF_Legend on Mar 24, 2014 11:41:49 GMT
Hey Jay - I play 5-asides often as I captain my own side. We used to (stopped because we feel old, lol) take part in several competitions around the country winning pretty much everything at least once in those we joined in. Depending on the opponent and the rules (i.e. not / allowed in GK box, no "high" balls, no outs / corners) you pretty much adjust your tactics according to the situation.
We set out in a diamond 1-2-1 formation, but switching to a 2-2 or 3-1 when defending, or a 1-3 when attacking. Don't play long balls. Always communicate. High pressing usually works if your players are quicker, but you are facing with a dangerman (fast paced demon) at the back, using a 2-2 defense, with your quicker defender pressing hard on the dangerman, and a stronger man sweeping if your first defender loses out (and your quicker defender can recover faster to help out, since he's quicker).
I'm a goalkeeper myself, so I control the defense - important to build good rapport with your friends playing at the back. Always good for goalkeepers to shout out defensive maneuvers (on coming runners, loose men, marking left / right foot). Make sure your goalkeepers are good at judging angles - most of the time, all you need to to keep angles narrow for your opponent, and this requires teamwork from your goalkeepers and defenders. Always communicate.
Last but not least - this is the most important thing: always encourage each other and have fun together. It goes a long mile.
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Post by Kojak on Mar 24, 2014 15:53:20 GMT
It's INTENSIVE fitness. Different muscle sets to being able to run 5 + km comfortably, thought I'd be fine but woah - it's also so difficult not to just want to chase the ball down all the time, played scrumhalf my entire life so you can imagine! I'm fit. I still find as soon as I change what I'm being fit for its starting all over again. I would train two hours of intense pad work and muscle work, but couldn't last two 3 minute rounds in sparring. I would also run 5 k's on days off but would be knackered when I trained for a 12 race ever year which only takes me an hour. I'd then go back to kickboxing and find it extremely tough. Now football I had to be subbed off at half time the first couple of practice games, only 40 mins. Yeah it's a funny old thing this. I find it exactly the same. I'd got fit again via running and yoga but didn't fancy the running as much over the winter cos it's been pissing down so much and that. Bought myself an exercise bike to keep the cardio up whilst the weather was shit. I thought I'd be absolutely fine given all the yoga and running had built up a good amount of power in my legs, and a good level of stamina. How fucking wrong I was. I was absolutely fucked relatively quickly during my first bike session, and aching like fuck the day after. Took me two weeks to properly adjust to it. Now the weathers brightening up and it's time to start running again, I'm going to experience the same thing in reverse. You honestly can't win. |
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