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Post by Stew on Nov 21, 2021 18:54:59 GMT
Wow. Grown man who was shit at his job cries on TV to divert attention from the shitshow he created by staying too long at a job everyone knew he couldn't do. If he really cared he would have handed in his papers after the scouse defeat. He instead put us through that City game and then last night's shitshow. Even after last night he was talking the same nonsense about believing in himself that he could turn this around. Like hell he would. Would that be hubris? Or stupidity? Bit of both..? Either ways, utter nonsense that video. Fact that it was his idea makes it worse. Gary Neville said it was pathetic that players post on their social media after a loss. This is worse by degrees. Come on. Life is too short for this,
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Post by redcase on Nov 21, 2021 19:01:42 GMT
Wow. Grown man who was shit at his job cries on TV to divert attention from the shitshow he created by staying too long at a job everyone knew he couldn't do. If he really cared he would have handed in his papers after the scouse defeat. He instead put us through that City game and then last night's shitshow. Even after last night he was talking the same nonsense about believing in himself that he could turn this around. Like hell he would. Would that be hubris? Or stupidity? Bit of both..? Either ways, utter nonsense that video. Fact that it was his idea makes it worse. Gary Neville said it was pathetic that players post on their social media after a loss. This is worse by degrees. Come on. Life is too short for this, I'm aware of how cynical I sound to be fair, but I've grown far less tolerant of football theatre and its actors. Especially in the last year with the pandemic and seeing life brought down to its bare bones. Why should we be sympathetic? In real life, if you're bad at your job you're out. It's a business. He didn't quit because he stood to lose millions. I respect that as a business decision. I probably wouldn't have left either if I stood to make that much. That's where the respect ends though. As a fan I'd have liked him to leave sooner. If he left after the scouse game I'd respect him for understanding he wasn't up to it. For me, this video is unnecessary in every way because it tries once again to milk sympathy from fans that "he tried". Imo.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 21, 2021 19:13:26 GMT
Sure he did Ed. Sorry, 'Andy'.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 21, 2021 19:14:45 GMT
Come on. Life is too short for this, I'm aware of how cynical I sound to be fair, but I've grown far less tolerant of football theatre and its actors. Especially in the last year with the pandemic and seeing life brought down to its bare bones. Why should we be sympathetic? In real life, if you're bad at your job you're out. It's a business. He didn't quit because he stood to lose millions. I respect that as a business decision. I probably wouldn't have left either if I stood to make that much. That's where the respect ends though. As a fan I'd have liked him to leave sooner. If he left after the scouse game I'd respect him for understanding he wasn't up to it. For me, this video is unnecessary in every way because it tries once again to milk sympathy from fans that "he tried". Imo. We'll be hearing the 'Ole rebuilt after Jose' narrative for as long as we hear the 'Moyes deserved more time' horse manure now.
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Post by redcase on Nov 21, 2021 19:23:57 GMT
I'm aware of how cynical I sound to be fair, but I've grown far less tolerant of football theatre and its actors. Especially in the last year with the pandemic and seeing life brought down to its bare bones. Why should we be sympathetic? In real life, if you're bad at your job you're out. It's a business. He didn't quit because he stood to lose millions. I respect that as a business decision. I probably wouldn't have left either if I stood to make that much. That's where the respect ends though. As a fan I'd have liked him to leave sooner. If he left after the scouse game I'd respect him for understanding he wasn't up to it. For me, this video is unnecessary in every way because it tries once again to milk sympathy from fans that "he tried". Imo. We'll be hearing the 'Ole rebuilt after Jose' narrative for as long as we hear the 'Moyes deserved more time' horse manure now. The team is absolutely in worse shape than it ever was. Some of his signings are utter clusterfucks and nobody has really progressed in any way. And he gets a good old severance pay in the millions for it.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 21, 2021 19:39:10 GMT
We'll be hearing the 'Ole rebuilt after Jose' narrative for as long as we hear the 'Moyes deserved more time' horse manure now. The team is absolutely in worse shape than it ever was. Some of his signings are utter clusterfucks and nobody has really progressed in any way. And he gets a good old severance pay in the millions for it. He's gone. I'll live with it. Thanks for '99 and the red card against Newcastle. Line drawn.
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Post by Diablo Rouge on Nov 21, 2021 19:48:02 GMT
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Post by Paul on Nov 21, 2021 20:26:02 GMT
Watched the interview. Was proper gutted for the bloke. Could see how broken he was at the end. Nobody can question his love the club, he was virtually in tears at the end. Just because his level was there doesn't mean his heart wasn't. The fact he was willing to do an interview after speaks volumes of the type of bloke he is. He even stopped after he got sacked to speak to fans on the way home. The lack of class and decency from some people is astonishing. Even after he got sacked there are still people abusing the bloke, you've got what you wanted move the fuck on. The "if he cared he should have walked" argument is getting boring aswell, 99% of people who say they would wouldn't if they were in the same situation.
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Post by Stew on Nov 22, 2021 13:52:34 GMT
Buy the Times today. Incredible coverage of the situation. A Paul Hirst article in particular is very interesting.
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Post by redcase on Nov 22, 2021 14:05:05 GMT
Buy the Times today. Incredible coverage of the situation. A Paul Hirst article in particular is very interesting. Any links available online? I'll pay to read it.
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Post by Sméagol on Nov 22, 2021 19:12:12 GMT
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Post by redcase on Nov 22, 2021 20:14:20 GMT
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Post by redcase on Nov 22, 2021 20:17:14 GMT
That article is weirdly conflicting.
One that stands out is Woodward was an admirer of Nagelsmann and Tuchel? But he went for a cultural reboot instead? What the actual hell?
It's also ridiculous that he gave as much deference as he did to Pogba, seeing as the prick was hardly ever arsed. Should have focused on implementing a tactical blueprint and a plan rather than appeasing shit players.
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Post by Diablo Rouge on Dec 12, 2021 16:45:14 GMT
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Post by king nothing on Dec 14, 2021 4:47:27 GMT
Brentford game off then.
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