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Post by kstandhand on Sept 8, 2021 9:44:34 GMT
It is a ridiculous situation and we aren't fully aware of the facts but much of the blame has to lie on us. We know Lingard wants regular gametime and we aren't in a position to offer it to him with Bruno ahead of him in the number 10 role and Sancho and Greenwood ahead of him on the RW. So we should be telling Lingard that if he wants to play he needs to find another club. There is some talk that Lingard told West Ham he wasn't interested because he wants to stay here and fight for a place in the team. We should have shattered any such illusions and told him he'll get 10-15 starts a season max which obviously won't be acceptable to him. And if we are asking for £30m that is ridiculous given he is on high wages and has a year left on his contract. If we can get Varane for £40m or so it is crazy to expect much more than £20m for Lingard and I'm sure a deal could have been done with West Ham or some other potential suitor. West Ham made a low ball bid for Zouma as well but eventually found an acceptable compromise with Chelsea. And I am sure they would have done the same with us if Lingard had made it clear to them he wanted to join them and we'd made it clear we were willing to negotiate and sell at a reasonable price. It would be exactly like Ole to give Lingard far more playing time than he deserves to try to get him to sign while Donny who stupidly signed a 6 year contract with us rots on the bench. We gave him (like many young players on our books) a bloated well over the going rate contract. His performances dipped,family issues,multiple managerial changes etc He did well out on loan. Multiple clubs bid for him over the summer,we rejected those offers. We have now offered him a Jones esq contract, i.e a favourite of Woodward's to protect his sell on value. The club has been completely devoid of any form common sense joined up planning for years at all levels. Lingard & his agent have rightly rejected that contarct,he knows he ain't getting regular football,he knows why he has been offered the contract. He will get one final massive pay day that secures his & his immediate families future come the summer...who can blame him??
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Post by Stew on Sept 8, 2021 9:50:47 GMT
We’re blaming Lingard because West Ham wouldn’t meet our 30 million asking fee? He should have agitated for a move in order for Utd to what, lower the fee? That doesn’t make any sense. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm blaming him for not getting his agent to find a club willing to pay the fee we wanted or at least enough to be acceptable. It was made perfectly clear he was not going to be first choice here. I’m in danger of beating a dead horse on this issue but you cannot blame a player because his agent couldn’t find a club to pay 30 million for said player. I’m sorry, that aspect of all this is completely out of Lingard’s hands. You can’t force other clubs to pay a set fee, it’s just not how things work. He’s responsible for lots of things but not that.
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Post by Stew on Sept 8, 2021 9:52:26 GMT
Lingard shouldn’t get another minute of playing time now though. Elanga and Amad when he’s back gets those minutes.
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Post by kstandhand on Sept 8, 2021 9:53:59 GMT
Lingard shouldn’t get another minute of playing time now though. Elanga and Amad when he’s back gets those minutes. His situation is no different to Pogba's.
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Post by mightyez on Sept 8, 2021 10:31:58 GMT
Lingard shouldn’t get another minute of playing time now though. Elanga and Amad when he’s back gets those minutes. His situation is no different to Pogba's. There is slight hope with pogba and he can do things lingard simply won’t dream of
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Post by Tatty on Jun 1, 2022 15:07:21 GMT
Another one who can dance all the off into obscurity. Prick! Glad he's gone.
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Post by stretfordendling on Jun 1, 2022 15:30:25 GMT
Today's been a good day so far lol
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Post by caino on Jun 1, 2022 15:35:31 GMT
still cant believe we didnt cash in on him after his decent spell at West Ham.
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Post by Deez on Jun 1, 2022 16:02:57 GMT
Nice one for this and the FA cup goal.
Hopefully lessons are learnt about not selling to Wes... Who am I kidding
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Post by Stew on Jun 1, 2022 16:27:59 GMT
Serious amount of money off the wage bill between this dope and Pogba.
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Post by Karma on Jun 1, 2022 16:43:36 GMT
still cant believe we didnt cash in on him after his decent spell at West Ham. Because the club is run by morons.
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Post by kstandhand on Jun 2, 2022 19:35:48 GMT
After 22 years has he gone yet?
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Post by Karma on Jun 2, 2022 19:46:09 GMT
After 22 years has he gone yet? Matt Judge still working out his notice apparently. 🤮🤮
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Post by Stew on Jun 6, 2022 8:29:51 GMT
Locked thankfully.
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