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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:20:20 GMT
No matter how many schools are bombed they are only after your benefits. I have no idea what you mean. People say the refugees are just after benefits. Meanwhile their babiesare getting hit by chlorine bombs. I'll struggle to sleep tonight watching that. |
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Nov 17, 2015 12:21:26 GMT
Just to put my views on how extreme Muslim culture is at odds with ours in a personal practical sense. I have 2 little boys aged 8 and 6. A few months back we were packing shopping into the car when a muslim man followed by a fully covered up female walked by the car. My 2 boys looked at me in complete confusion. They asked the usual million questions about what they had just seen. This did make me uncomfortable as a parent having to try to explain away why muslim women dress this way. I didn't have answers. The bottom line is in my country I don't want to live like this and don't want my children seeing this. I am not racist at all but this extreme form of religion is completely at odds with how we want to live. Genuine question here. Am I wrong? Yes. I can't see the problem there. Just tell your kids that's how they dress in other cultures. I really can't understand how that would be an issue. But the point is this is a demonstration of oppressing women which is not what we believe in. |
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Post by Stew on Nov 17, 2015 12:23:56 GMT
Just to put my views on how extreme Muslim culture is at odds with ours in a personal practical sense. I have 2 little boys aged 8 and 6. A few months back we were packing shopping into the car when a muslim man followed by a fully covered up female walked by the car. My 2 boys looked at me in complete confusion. They asked the usual million questions about what they had just seen. This did make me uncomfortable as a parent having to try to explain away why muslim women dress this way. I didn't have answers. The bottom line is in my country I don't want to live like this and don't want my children seeing this. I am not racist at all but this extreme form of religion is completely at odds with how we want to live. Genuine question here. Am I wrong? This is tricky. As far as I know the dreadful treatment of women in these cases comes from a very warped (and male) take on the Koran. I'd argue that this and indeed all types of religion are either all accepted or none. I know you are Irish, like myself. So ask yourself this- extreme religion scared you, justifiably so. But is it any more harmful to you than 'mild' religion has been? I guarantee you that you know someone that has been directly affected by the wretched abuses the Catholic Church carried out in this country. I know someone that was. |
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Post by Stew on Nov 17, 2015 12:25:39 GMT
I have no idea what you mean. People say the refugees are just after benefits. Meanwhile their babiesare getting hit by chlorine bombs. I'll struggle to sleep tonight watching that. Yes it's a tough watch. But clears up s lot of what's happened in Syria thus far |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:28:34 GMT
Yes. I can't see the problem there. Just tell your kids that's how they dress in other cultures. I really can't understand how that would be an issue. But the point is this is a demonstration of oppressing women which is not what we believe in. The woman lives in the U.K. she has the choice to take it off. She doesn't. Nobodies business but hers. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:33:28 GMT
Porn is pretty Damn degrading to women. We don't care about that. Would you rather see your daughter fully clothed or in porn? Tough one.
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Nov 17, 2015 12:36:17 GMT
Just to put my views on how extreme Muslim culture is at odds with ours in a personal practical sense. I have 2 little boys aged 8 and 6. A few months back we were packing shopping into the car when a muslim man followed by a fully covered up female walked by the car. My 2 boys looked at me in complete confusion. They asked the usual million questions about what they had just seen. This did make me uncomfortable as a parent having to try to explain away why muslim women dress this way. I didn't have answers. The bottom line is in my country I don't want to live like this and don't want my children seeing this. I am not racist at all but this extreme form of religion is completely at odds with how we want to live. Genuine question here. Am I wrong? This is tricky. As far as I know the dreadful treatment of women in these cases comes from a very warped (and male) take on the Koran. I'd argue that this and indeed all types of religion are either all accepted or none. I know you are Irish, like myself. So ask yourself this- extreme religion scared you, justifiably so. But is it any more harmful to you than 'mild' religion has been? I guarantee you that you know someone that has been directly affected by the wretched abuses the Catholic Church carried out in this country. I know someone that was. I agree 100% about religion. I am Catholic but don't demonstrate this in public and I am disgusted with how our country fared under its guidance in years gone by. If it was up to me all public displays and preaching's of religion would be a crime. And this is why a fully covered up Muslim woman makes me uncomfortable. |
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Nov 17, 2015 12:37:42 GMT
But the point is this is a demonstration of oppressing women which is not what we believe in. The woman lives in the U.K. she has the choice to take it off. She doesn't. Nobodies business but hers. She actually doesn't. Don't be naive |
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Nov 17, 2015 12:38:22 GMT
Porn is pretty Damn degrading to women. We don't care about that. Would you rather see your daughter fully clothed or in porn? Tough one. Public display of porn is illegal. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:40:55 GMT
British National Party. The majority are skinheads who hate all other races, has to be British or nothing else. They all idolise Hitler and the Nazis. A lot of my relatives comment a lot on a Facebook page. Think it's called Britian first. Seems pretty racist. They are. They are a spin off from the BNP. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:42:42 GMT
Porn is pretty Damn degrading to women. We don't care about that. Would you rather see your daughter fully clothed or in porn? Tough one. Public display of porn is illegal. It was a stretch but you can see what I mean. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:44:31 GMT
So we shouldn't help the 10,000,000 refugees because 1 terrorist is purported to have registered as a refugee...? Many of these comments are straight out of the BNP playbook, or like reading Skrewdriver lyrics, or watching Romper Stomper. And how exactly is going into Syria with troops going to turn out any differently than the US adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did they come up with a magical new device that tells us who the bad guys are now, when they all fade back into the civilian population? They want us to come over there with overwhelming force. They want another quagmire. The trillions of dollars wasted, and the civilian lives, and our military casualties, are criminal. We were lied into the last war, we had no exit strategy, and it nearly bankrupted us. The world is not measurably safer today. It didn't work last time. If France wants to go in and bomb the shit out of ISIS, let them. Then maybe Jordan, Turkey, Saudi, and other countries will do the same thing. Muslim countries need to shut down ISIS. The US will help, but we are not taking the ball on this one. Give off. That is exactly my point about not having free speech, as soon as someone disagrees with a comment it 'hurrr BMP, DURRRR racist' Come on Carbs that's nothing like not having free speech. Free speech doesn't just mean people agreeing with each other. You both have your point of view, and you can argue with each other till your blue in the face, but neither of you is going to be punished by the state for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:45:49 GMT
The woman lives in the U.K. she has the choice to take it off. She doesn't. Nobodies business but hers. She actually doesn't. Don't be naive They do though. There's 500 million Muslim women and they do not all wear Burka's. It is actually voluntary. You are correct that there are places that are more extreme where it wouldn't be a choice but for the majority it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:47:21 GMT
A lot of my relatives comment a lot on a Facebook page. Think it's called Britian first. Seems pretty racist. They are. They are a spin off from the BNP. Yeah i was thinking of unfriending them anyway. Not sure how I'm actually related to most of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:48:24 GMT
She actually doesn't. Don't be naive They do though. There's 500 million Muslim women and they do not all wear Burka's. It is actually voluntary. You are correct that there are places that are more extreme where it wouldn't be a choice but for the majority it is. Correct. It's more of a cultural thing than a religious thing. Women the world over have expressed there liking for it, so it's not all about male oppression, although that no doubt does exist. |
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