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Post by clueless1 on Apr 28, 2016 5:03:33 GMT
Aloisi apparently is giving Hervas a 2 year extension? why the hell would we do that. This is some bs, hopefully Ross talks some sense into him and shows him he's absolutely garbage in their, Hervas is half the reason we lost (ok a quarter, the other 3 being our rubbish back line)
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Post by clueless1 on Apr 28, 2016 6:07:43 GMT
The Fox Football podcast mentioned that former Adelaide United manager and part time patron-saint of South Australia Josep Gombau could be on his way to Melbourne City to replace John Van Schip as their manager
this would be such an upgrade. Gombau + money = very good for city, very bad for everyone else.
Mind you almost everyone will be an upgrade over JVS, he got lucky this season with Fornaroli and Mooy, had it not been for them i would expect they would have finished outside the 6
Rumors of a Mitch Austin-Danny Vukovic swap in the works between Central Coast Mariners and Melbourne Victory.
Would be a great move for both, Lawrence Thomas starts next season for the Vuck and they save a ton of cap in their rebuild and Danny Vukovic gives Central Coast a really solid keeper.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 8:56:08 GMT
The Fox Football podcast mentioned that former Adelaide United manager and part time patron-saint of South Australia Josep Gombau could be on his way to Melbourne City to replace John Van Schip as their manager this would be such an upgrade. Gombau + money = very good for city, very bad for everyone else. Mind you almost everyone will be an upgrade over JVS, he got lucky this season with Fornaroli and Mooy, had it not been for them i would expect they would have finished outside the 6 Rumors of a Mitch Austin-Danny Vukovic swap in the works between Central Coast Mariners and Melbourne Victory. Would be a great move for both, Lawrence Thomas starts next season for the Vuck and they save a ton of cap in their rebuild and Danny Vukovic gives Central Coast a really solid keeper. He better fucking not.
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Post by clueless1 on Apr 28, 2016 11:36:41 GMT
The Fox Football podcast mentioned that former Adelaide United manager and part time patron-saint of South Australia Josep Gombau could be on his way to Melbourne City to replace John Van Schip as their manager this would be such an upgrade. Gombau + money = very good for city, very bad for everyone else. Mind you almost everyone will be an upgrade over JVS, he got lucky this season with Fornaroli and Mooy, had it not been for them i would expect they would have finished outside the 6 Rumors of a Mitch Austin-Danny Vukovic swap in the works between Central Coast Mariners and Melbourne Victory. Would be a great move for both, Lawrence Thomas starts next season for the Vuck and they save a ton of cap in their rebuild and Danny Vukovic gives Central Coast a really solid keeper. He better fucking not. Yeah i can't imagine those in Adelaide would be too amused with him going to City of all places
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 12:48:10 GMT
www.football365.com/news/f365s-welcome-guest-on-south-asians-and-footballMailbox regular John Matrix attempts to explain why so many South Asians love football, and in particular Liverpool and Manchester United… My father was, like all his brothers, a Manchester United fan. This does not have its roots in football, but unsurprisingly cricket. Farokh Engineer was one of the first Indians to play first-class cricket in England and he signed for Lancashire. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of both sports will know where this is going; for those who don’t, let me elaborate. Imagine three skinny Indian men, aged 21, hearing that an Indian had signed for a cricket team. Their excitement was almost palpable, along with nostalgia for their homeland. So they saved up the money, jumped in an Austin Allegro and drove to Lancashire to see their hero. Arriving at ‘an’ Old Trafford, they were surprised by the volume and the nature of the fans but, having got there, they just followed the crowd. They paid for their ticket, and lo and behold, they walked onto a football terrace. All three of them, refusing to admit their mistake, decided to stay for the match, and by the end convinced themselves that this was their plan all along. It was only later that my dad told me that he’s only a fan because of a cock-up. That was my dad’s story. I can only tell a wider narrative through the prism of my own personal experience. I would never hope to speak on behalf of the approximately 3.1 million British Asians. However, there are some clues in there worth exploring. Firstly, we have to think about the history of immigration into this country. As the Commonwealth crumbled post war, along with Idi Amin’s expulsion of all Indians from Uganda in the 70s, there was a large influx of South Asians into the UK. My father was one of these people. As first generation immigrants they had challenges that myself, and other second generation children of immigrants, don’t face as prominently, and that was trying to assimilate in any way possible. Here were men and women, from tropical countries, barely speaking the language, washing up on the shore of this island, trying to carve a place in this alien world. They’d use any opportunity to proffer an olive branch to their colleagues in the warehouses and factories where they worked. My dad would say that football was the great equaliser. Like the weather, most Brits can hold some sort of conversation about ‘the big match’ and he and his friends utilised this. Considering the cultural environment these immigrants were coming into – with television shows like ‘It ain’t half hot mum’ and ‘Love thy neighbour’ on prime time – anything that would focus on similarities was a priority for these immigrants. They also started having children here, children whose first language would be English, whose friends would be English, and who didn’t have the ties to cricket their parents had. They played football in the playground. They wanted teams to support, so as the 70s transitioned to the 80s, a whole second generation started to grow up with football. Seeing high-profile ethnic minority players like John Barnes destroy defences excited them in a way that Test Cricket could never do. An affinity to Liverpool was born. My mum hated the sport, not because she watched it, or even knew the rules. The only thing she knew about football was hooligans. That was all she saw and so didn’t like me watching it; she felt it would be a corrupting influence. My older cousins (who we shared a house with) however loved it, and so we looked to them, and the teams they supported. Liverpool were doing well, and so you had a huge number of Indian Liverpool fans, which leads me to a mildly uncomfortable truth. There is an aspirational quality to the South Asian diaspora. They believe that through hard work, you will succeed. And winning is the most important thing. Think about the reaction to the Indian cricket team. Every victory is the greatest victory, every loss the end of the world. Now extrapolate this out, and what I am trying to say – using a very broad brush – is there is an element of glory-hunting going on here. Why would you not support the winners? But these are broad generalities. There are many other aspects for the growth of the south Asian fanbase. Sky was probably another driving factor. Many Indian households were early adopters of Sky because through them, the family could access Indian television from the subcontinent. These were the days of Giggs and Fowler, when Super Sunday really was super. So there was an increased exposure to football and its razzamatazz, and anyone who’s had the misfortune of watching a Bollywood film will know they love razzamatazz with convoluted plots featuring clearly signposted heroes and villains. I know many lament the gentrification of football, but it opened up the sport to a much wider audience. Add the fact that ESPN then began to broadcast the sport in India, and you can see why it began to gain prominence with south Asians. Then you have an esoteric cultural phenomenon like Bend it Like Beckham. Now I am not conflating that with more Indian fans, but it normalised football for an audience who still hung on to archaic ideas of both the sport (for thugs) and the fans (hooligans). As the generations turn over, more and more are coming to view their football team as a key part of their identity. Visit India and you can’t move for football jerseys (especially United and Liverpool ones). I support Arsenal, not because of the weight of history of trying to assimilate into a culture, but because my hardest cousin hung me over a bannister and said ‘who do you support?’. My only answer was ‘whoever you support!’ He supported Arsenal, now so do I. I’ve passed this love of Arsenal to my nephews like any good uncle. This is a more ‘traditional’ way of choosing a team; having your family force supporting the club on you. As the south Asian community grows more comfortable with the sport, our support will continue to diversify. I see my nieces and nephews supporting their local teams, again which makes me feel immense pride of how far we’ve come. There will always be a large South Asian fan base for Liverpool and United, as they are ostensibly our first loves, and also the immense amount of marketing those clubs do in Asia, but within a generation I expect this to change too. John Matrix
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Post by clueless1 on Apr 29, 2016 7:47:59 GMT
Jean-Carl Solorzano has been released by the Brisbane Roar
a bit sad but it needed to be done, no point keeping a visa squaddie. Now time to bring in a backup striker.
Melbourne City also announced 5 releases:
Aaron Hughes, James Brown, Jason Trifiro, Marc Marino and Wade Dekker
Marc Marino has been linked with Adelaide United so he could very well go back their as he is South Australian.
Aaron Hughes has, well he hasn't even played much
James Brown just screams South-East Asia (Malaysian Super League) or State league
Jason Trifiro is going to the mariners or state league guaranteed
Wade Dekker is another one who has potential though (with marino), since we released Solorzano i wouldn't mind us bringing him in and Kitto as two backup options at striker. If they're on minimums they won't eat into the cap and both have potential, can't see Dekker or Kitto being worse than Solorzano to be honest
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Post by clueless1 on Apr 29, 2016 8:06:40 GMT
www.football365.com/news/f365s-welcome-guest-on-south-asians-and-footballMailbox regular John Matrix attempts to explain why so many South Asians love football, and in particular Liverpool and Manchester United… My father was, like all his brothers, a Manchester United fan. This does not have its roots in football, but unsurprisingly cricket. Farokh Engineer was one of the first Indians to play first-class cricket in England and he signed for Lancashire. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of both sports will know where this is going; for those who don’t, let me elaborate. Imagine three skinny Indian men, aged 21, hearing that an Indian had signed for a cricket team. Their excitement was almost palpable, along with nostalgia for their homeland. So they saved up the money, jumped in an Austin Allegro and drove to Lancashire to see their hero. Arriving at ‘an’ Old Trafford, they were surprised by the volume and the nature of the fans but, having got there, they just followed the crowd. They paid for their ticket, and lo and behold, they walked onto a football terrace. All three of them, refusing to admit their mistake, decided to stay for the match, and by the end convinced themselves that this was their plan all along. It was only later that my dad told me that he’s only a fan because of a cock-up. That was my dad’s story. I can only tell a wider narrative through the prism of my own personal experience. I would never hope to speak on behalf of the approximately 3.1 million British Asians. However, there are some clues in there worth exploring. Firstly, we have to think about the history of immigration into this country. As the Commonwealth crumbled post war, along with Idi Amin’s expulsion of all Indians from Uganda in the 70s, there was a large influx of South Asians into the UK. My father was one of these people. As first generation immigrants they had challenges that myself, and other second generation children of immigrants, don’t face as prominently, and that was trying to assimilate in any way possible. Here were men and women, from tropical countries, barely speaking the language, washing up on the shore of this island, trying to carve a place in this alien world. They’d use any opportunity to proffer an olive branch to their colleagues in the warehouses and factories where they worked. My dad would say that football was the great equaliser. Like the weather, most Brits can hold some sort of conversation about ‘the big match’ and he and his friends utilised this. Considering the cultural environment these immigrants were coming into – with television shows like ‘It ain’t half hot mum’ and ‘Love thy neighbour’ on prime time – anything that would focus on similarities was a priority for these immigrants. They also started having children here, children whose first language would be English, whose friends would be English, and who didn’t have the ties to cricket their parents had. They played football in the playground. They wanted teams to support, so as the 70s transitioned to the 80s, a whole second generation started to grow up with football. Seeing high-profile ethnic minority players like John Barnes destroy defences excited them in a way that Test Cricket could never do. An affinity to Liverpool was born. My mum hated the sport, not because she watched it, or even knew the rules. The only thing she knew about football was hooligans. That was all she saw and so didn’t like me watching it; she felt it would be a corrupting influence. My older cousins (who we shared a house with) however loved it, and so we looked to them, and the teams they supported. Liverpool were doing well, and so you had a huge number of Indian Liverpool fans, which leads me to a mildly uncomfortable truth. There is an aspirational quality to the South Asian diaspora. They believe that through hard work, you will succeed. And winning is the most important thing. Think about the reaction to the Indian cricket team. Every victory is the greatest victory, every loss the end of the world. Now extrapolate this out, and what I am trying to say – using a very broad brush – is there is an element of glory-hunting going on here. Why would you not support the winners? But these are broad generalities. There are many other aspects for the growth of the south Asian fanbase. Sky was probably another driving factor. Many Indian households were early adopters of Sky because through them, the family could access Indian television from the subcontinent. These were the days of Giggs and Fowler, when Super Sunday really was super. So there was an increased exposure to football and its razzamatazz, and anyone who’s had the misfortune of watching a Bollywood film will know they love razzamatazz with convoluted plots featuring clearly signposted heroes and villains. I know many lament the gentrification of football, but it opened up the sport to a much wider audience. Add the fact that ESPN then began to broadcast the sport in India, and you can see why it began to gain prominence with south Asians. Then you have an esoteric cultural phenomenon like Bend it Like Beckham. Now I am not conflating that with more Indian fans, but it normalised football for an audience who still hung on to archaic ideas of both the sport (for thugs) and the fans (hooligans). As the generations turn over, more and more are coming to view their football team as a key part of their identity. Visit India and you can’t move for football jerseys (especially United and Liverpool ones). I support Arsenal, not because of the weight of history of trying to assimilate into a culture, but because my hardest cousin hung me over a bannister and said ‘who do you support?’. My only answer was ‘whoever you support!’ He supported Arsenal, now so do I. I’ve passed this love of Arsenal to my nephews like any good uncle. This is a more ‘traditional’ way of choosing a team; having your family force supporting the club on you. As the south Asian community grows more comfortable with the sport, our support will continue to diversify. I see my nieces and nephews supporting their local teams, again which makes me feel immense pride of how far we’ve come. There will always be a large South Asian fan base for Liverpool and United, as they are ostensibly our first loves, and also the immense amount of marketing those clubs do in Asia, but within a generation I expect this to change too. John Matrix Fantastic article Yeah i've been to India a few times and its shocking to see how many Barcalona, Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Real Madrid or Arsenal jersey's people are wearing. Their is a huge following of the premier league and if you walk into a restaurant or any kind of establishment more often then not its played along with any cricket game. Now a lot of the support is mainly for overseas league, namely the EPL (as is tradition with most south east asian countries) but with the Indian Super League it has put the spotlight on the domestic scene (still not a huge fan of the plastic thing, its mostly over the hill foreigners and an IPL style league that is more plastic than the MLS or A-League combined, rather they had put that money on investing in the I-League and making that legitimate or doing what China is doing and building huge academies as well as super clubs with players who can play now) so slowly but surely football is expanding past its traditional base of Kolkata and the North-Eastern States. This may not sound huge but trust me, from the first time i went to India in 03, where cricket was king and everything was cricket, literally to the level of ad-naseum, to now where we are seeing football up there competing for that #2 spot with Hockey (another traditionally well supported sport) is crazy. Now their Football federation needs to get their head out of their ass and start funding the local domestic league and making sure their are teams in Chennai, Mumbai,Kolkata (though East Bengal, Mohun Bagan and Mohammadun as well as the other giants have them covered), Delhi, Bangalore and Hyderabad. Also their focus on traditional heartlands are good though (Kolkata, Goa, Northern States) but they also need to look at others. I'd say a good size for the league would be 20-24 teams in the first division and then getting 24 in the second division with a third division set up in the long run. China would be a good model for them, India is not lacking in billionaires willing to splash the cash on a hobby (see the Venky's), nor is it lacking people with a passion for football with money. With the academies and top stars going to China, they increased their TV like 100 fold. If similar things happened in India i can imagine all the big networks will clamor for it. Also every football club should have some kind of academy, and good ones at that, import coaches if you have to from europe (the Balkans, namely croatia and serbia, know how to grow great players, and generally their coaches travel and travel well in asia) I'd say We should set up some kind of academy there also, in Kolkata given that is the only city where football rivals cricket and due to the sheer population, that could prove to be a hub of football for us. The Country has a lot of potential to grow and become a footballing powerhouse, they have the support, they have a ton of rich folk willing to splash the cash and a growing middle class willing to go and watch the games and support their teams.
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Post by clueless1 on Apr 29, 2016 12:29:28 GMT
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Post by clueless1 on Apr 30, 2016 2:10:34 GMT
Two retirees today
Firstly Former socceroo and current Brisbane Roar left back Shane Steffanuto
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Former Socceroo and Current Melbourne Victory striker Archie Thompson
Shane started with the Brisbane Strikers in the old National Soccer League in 1998 and stayed with them until 2004, he then moved to Lillestrom in Norway from 2004-2007 where he won the Norwegian cup in 2007, Moving to Lyn Oslo in 2008-09 during a turbulent time for the club when Chelsea (being the scum of the earth that they are) sued the club and sent them to bankruptcy. He then returned back home to Australia and North Queensland Fury where he only played 7 games. He them moved to the Roar where he spent the last 6 seasons playing for them, winning 2 grand finals and a premiership with the club, not to mention his 3 caps for the national team.
Archie Thompson, oh Archie, the main reason Australia has the highest score in world football (our 31-0 over American Samoa where he scored 13 goals, yes Oceania football did that to us), he started at Bathurst 75 where he stayed for a season, then moving to the Gippsland Falcons in the NSL between 96 and 99, before moving to Carlton SC for the 99-00 season. He had a short stint at Marconi before moving to Lierse in Belgium between 2001-2005. It was in 2005 he returned home for the Melbourne Victory in their inaugural season, he even had a short 6 month loan stint and PSV. He won the golden boot in 2005-06, the John Marsden medal a season later and all 3 grand finals and 3 premierships as well as their FFA cup triump in 2015 with the victory. He is by all accounts Mr Melbourne Victory and an absolute legend for them and an Australian legend too. He finishes as the 3rd highest goal scorer for Australia and finishes as the top scorer for the A-League
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Post by clueless1 on Apr 30, 2016 2:29:52 GMT
Ok Archie may not be retiring, he said he wants to play more despite playing his last game for the Victory. State League return? He'd be a huge draw for one of the teams down there and would score goals thats for certain. Or he could be going to New Zealand
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Post by clueless1 on May 1, 2016 7:07:16 GMT
Half time in the Grand Final
Adelaide United 2-0 Western Sydney Wanderers
Wanderers actually had more posession but Adelaide was just better with their shots, they took advantage of the opportunities given and thats why they're ahead. Adelaide have been a lot better around the box and the final ball has been better. Not to mention that world class Free kick from Isaias, you couldn't strike a ball better then that.
Wanderers just need to be a bit better in the final third, Nichols was a whisker away from scoring, they are really missing that lethal striker though, Piovaccari is a huge waste, if ever they needed Timmy Cahill it is now. Either way they are going to have to dig in deep, they did it last week against Brisbane and they could very well pull it off, they also need to make sure they are more solid in the back without giving up fouls in the box
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Post by CaajScot on May 1, 2016 7:26:48 GMT
Half time in the Grand Final Adelaide United 2-0 Western Sydney Wanderers Wanderers actually had more posession but Adelaide was just better with their shots, they took advantage of the opportunities given and thats why they're ahead. Adelaide have been a lot better around the box and the final ball has been better. Not to mention that world class Free kick from Isaias, you couldn't strike a ball better then that. Wanderers just need to be a bit better in the final third, Nichols was a whisker away from scoring, they are really missing that lethal striker though, Piovaccari is a huge waste, if ever they needed Timmy Cahill it is now. Either way they are going to have to dig in deep, they did it last week against Brisbane and they could very well pull it off, they also need to make sure they are more solid in the back without giving up fouls in the box I would imagine Aus is a happy cobber atm Spens with Adelaide ahead at h/t?
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Post by clueless1 on May 1, 2016 8:11:46 GMT
Half time in the Grand Final Adelaide United 2-0 Western Sydney Wanderers Wanderers actually had more posession but Adelaide was just better with their shots, they took advantage of the opportunities given and thats why they're ahead. Adelaide have been a lot better around the box and the final ball has been better. Not to mention that world class Free kick from Isaias, you couldn't strike a ball better then that. Wanderers just need to be a bit better in the final third, Nichols was a whisker away from scoring, they are really missing that lethal striker though, Piovaccari is a huge waste, if ever they needed Timmy Cahill it is now. Either way they are going to have to dig in deep, they did it last week against Brisbane and they could very well pull it off, they also need to make sure they are more solid in the back without giving up fouls in the box I would imagine Aus is a happy cobber atm Spens with Adelaide ahead at h/t? yeah adelaide fans though would have been cautious, they have blown bigger leads before
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 8:14:07 GMT
I would imagine Aus is a happy cobber atm Spens with Adelaide ahead at h/t? yeah adelaide fans though would have been cautious, they have blown bigger leads before Fucking Linesman didn't help. What the fuck was that decision. We got there though. CHAMPIONS. Now let's win the FA Cup.
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Post by clueless1 on May 1, 2016 8:35:47 GMT
BUT. Today is not that day
FT: Adelaide United 3-1 Western Sydney Wanderers
What.a.game.
Second half was, well, how do you even describe it really. Anyway Wanderers really did well in the 2nd half to get back into the game, even getting a goal back through fantastic play, a castelen pass into santalab, who back heels it to Neville and he puts his boot through it. From there it looked like it would be the Wanderers coming back to equalise. Game after the 80th minute was a tense with Adelaide holding on for dear life and killing time, then Sanchez came on and scored in the 90th minute and the Stadium exploded i swear. You could tell how much it meant to the Adelaide United fans.
Congratulations to Adelaide United on their first Championship and their first premiership, championship double. This team to come back from the bottom of the league at the end of november, to win it all is simply amazing.
My condolences also go out to the Wanderers, they fought incredibly hard in this grand final but just couldn't get back in, third grand final loss must be rough but they will get there soon, Popa is too good of a manager not to get it.
Crowd: 50,119 (biggest crowd for a football game in South Australian history, full house basically given that some of the seats where members seats, with those probably having no interest in Adelaide United)
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