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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 23, 2016 15:22:29 GMT
No evidence that the government won't honour the outcome. Do you genuinly beleive that the government has never lied to the general populace? Hi Stevie Wonder Lying in the past doesn't equal lying now, especially when the government has never lied before about a legally binding referendum such as this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:23:24 GMT
ah yeah, anyone that has a difference in opinion is some kind of lunatic - I remember now. Voting Leave doesn't mean anyone is a lunatic. Thinking the vote is rigged (I assume that is what you mean) without any hard evidence whatsoever... that's not lunacy but it is incredibly spurious at best. again, its not like the gov has ever rigged anything before... nope, never. |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 23, 2016 15:25:12 GMT
Ok, well here's my evidence that we do have a choice: a ballot paper and a law stating that we have a choice. Where's your evidence that, on this specific occasion, we don't have a choice? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:25:31 GMT
Do you genuinly beleive that the government has never lied to the general populace? Hi Stevie Wonder Lying in the past doesn't equal lying now, especially when the government has never lied before about a legally binding referendum such as this one. I'm going to resort to using swear words now. Fuck off. as if you genuinly believe that the gov would like about something in the past but not now... fuck my actual life. "We have hard evidence that Iraq has WMD's" - turns out to have been fabricated. Camerons Dad had a tax evasion account with that company recently that was lied about. the pletheroa of promises that are made before each election which never happen those are a few outright lies |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 23, 2016 15:26:42 GMT
Voting Leave doesn't mean anyone is a lunatic. Thinking the vote is rigged (I assume that is what you mean) without any hard evidence whatsoever... that's not lunacy but it is incredibly spurious at best. again, its not like the gov has ever rigged anything before... nope, never. Again, someone doing something in the past does not mean they are doing it now or in the future. Here's an example of your logic: Jose Mourinho once played incredibly defensive football in a CL Semi vs. Atletico Madrid in 2013 so he's going to be playing defensive football in all our games next season. Except that's not the case at all. |
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Post by Stew on Jun 23, 2016 15:27:35 GMT
How is it an illusion? Its a very clear and open direct vote where everyone over 18 has an equal say. You and the country absolutely have a choice - the biggest choice anyone has made through voting for 40 years. If the country chooses the opposite of what you voted for you can't say you didn't have a choice; you did, you just didn't choose the same option as the majority of voters. we have a choice? do we really? its a carefully staged pantomime |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 23, 2016 15:28:58 GMT
Lying in the past doesn't equal lying now, especially when the government has never lied before about a legally binding referendum such as this one. I'm going to resort to using swear words now. Fuck off. as if you genuinly believe that the gov would like about something in the past but not now... fuck my actual life. "We have hard evidence that Iraq has WMD's" - turns out to have been fabricated. Camerons Dad had a tax evasion account with that company recently that was lied about. the pletheroa of promises that are made before each election which never happen those are a few outright lies Where did I say any of those things weren't lies? All I'm saying is that lying in the past does not mean you are lying now. Unlike those cases you have no evidence they are lying. In all those examples there is clear proof that there were lies. Not so here. |
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Post by smithy2 on Jun 23, 2016 15:30:23 GMT
ah yeah, anyone that has a difference in opinion is some kind of lunatic - I remember now. No anyone that thinks that there is a conspiracy involving rubbing out votes is. We've been given a vote and the government will honour it, they have to otherwise the riots that come after will make the London riots look like a day at the park.
Anything else is just slander at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:33:49 GMT
I'm going to resort to using swear words now. Fuck off. as if you genuinly believe that the gov would like about something in the past but not now... fuck my actual life. "We have hard evidence that Iraq has WMD's" - turns out to have been fabricated. Camerons Dad had a tax evasion account with that company recently that was lied about. the pletheroa of promises that are made before each election which never happen those are a few outright lies Where did I say any of those things weren't lies? All I'm saying is that lying in the past does not mean you are lying now. Unlike those cases you have no evidence they are lying. In all those examples there is clear proof that there were lies. Not so here. if you honestly live in a world where the gov doesn't lie about things then I applaud you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:34:16 GMT
It's not even official government policy, they are just as split as everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:35:11 GMT
ah yeah, anyone that has a difference in opinion is some kind of lunatic - I remember now. No anyone that thinks that there is a conspiracy involving rubbing out votes is. We've been given a vote and the government will honour it, they have to otherwise the riots that come after will make the London riots look like a day at the park.
Anything else is just slander at this point.
I don't recall saying the first part, I'm pretty confident that I didn't. I also didn't realise that saying we don't have a geniune choice is some kind of slander. |
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Post by smithy2 on Jun 23, 2016 15:40:57 GMT
No anyone that thinks that there is a conspiracy involving rubbing out votes is. We've been given a vote and the government will honour it, they have to otherwise the riots that come after will make the London riots look like a day at the park.
Anything else is just slander at this point.
I don't recall saying the first part, I'm pretty confident that I didn't. I also didn't realise that saying we don't have a geniune choice is some kind of slander.
Of course its slander, you're basically saying that this election has already been decided before a vote has been cast. The idea that the British government would rig an election is outrageous, especially considering we are one of the leading democracies in the world.
But I’m sure UKIP etc will use this excuse when they lose so they can continue to push their agenda.
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Post by Stew on Jun 23, 2016 15:43:41 GMT
Listen to Jack everyone:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:46:54 GMT
I don't recall saying the first part, I'm pretty confident that I didn't. I also didn't realise that saying we don't have a geniune choice is some kind of slander.
Of course its slander, you're basically saying that this election has already been decided before a vote has been cast. The idea that the British government would rig an election is outrageous, especially considering we are one of the leading democracies in the world.
But I’m sure UKIP etc will use this excuse when they lose so they can continue to push their agenda.
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Post by smithy2 on Jun 23, 2016 15:53:04 GMT
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