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Post by dazjoe on Jan 7, 2021 21:54:14 GMT
Not sure if true but apparently that absolute tit dressed as a fucking buffalo was also at the BLM protests and is Antifa.
So, you're both a right wing and left wing mental case? Or, just some complete twat looking to be famous and/or any excuse to riot?
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Post by Tatty on Jan 7, 2021 22:20:13 GMT
Not sure if true but apparently that absolute tit dressed as a fucking buffalo was also at the BLM protests and is Antifa. So, you're both a right wing and left wing mental case? Or, just some complete twat looking to be famous and/or any excuse to riot? Maybe do a quick twitter/google search first:
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Post by dazjoe on Jan 7, 2021 22:57:33 GMT
Not sure if true but apparently that absolute tit dressed as a fucking buffalo was also at the BLM protests and is Antifa. So, you're both a right wing and left wing mental case? Or, just some complete twat looking to be famous and/or any excuse to riot? Maybe do a quick twitter/google search first: Fair enough. Have to say, this gave me a chuckle
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Post by smithy2 on Jan 7, 2021 23:15:01 GMT
Not sure if true but apparently that absolute tit dressed as a fucking buffalo was also at the BLM protests and is Antifa. So, you're both a right wing and left wing mental case? Or, just some complete twat looking to be famous and/or any excuse to riot? In fairness he’s one of those Qanon cunts so i don’t know what he is.
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Post by redcase on Jan 8, 2021 5:54:49 GMT
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Post by Stew on Jan 8, 2021 13:26:30 GMT
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Post by alwaysUnited on Jan 8, 2021 18:18:54 GMT
I cant help but notice a certain persons post about the actions of the rioters completely ignores the actions of the authorities in both scenarios. From certain politicians referring to one group (back in the summer) as rioters and the other group (yesterday) as protesters; to the heavy handed, premeditated show of force (again, in the summer) vs the kid gloves, 'can you please go home now, let me walk you out of the building and take a selfie' and turning up when its getting dark and the curfew is in place approach (yesterday) from the security forces. From these eyes, those were the glaring examples of the institutionalized racism that the group back in the summer were speaking about, and that those in power are slowly coming to realise is the reality in the country. A woman was shot and killed , so much for the kid gloves treatment. Not to mention most politicians and mainstream media have condemned this (rightly so). All i said in my initial post was i expected the same from people in similar cases.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Jan 8, 2021 18:46:48 GMT
It would be helpful if you could tell what the 'nonsensical drivel' i said. I just said pointed out some facts and things i didnt agree with , unlike some members here i didnt go about abusing people who disagreed with me. I criticized the west/RoM for this obsession with newfound wokeness (emergent in last 10 years maybe) not for being liberal in a classical sense. You know most people from other parts of the world would jump at the first chance if they get a job in US or europe. I have my cousin and his family living in london , friends who have worked in US for considerable time , none of them felt west is a inherently racist place to be which is what the BLM is essentially suggesting , which is why I cant support that. If anybody want to discuss without being sarcastic or shouting abuses or a calling names iam ready , otherwise i am out of this Why thank you for gerrymandering the conversation based on the experiences of 5 people you know . If they say it isn't inherently racist then of course they know it all. And of course its the same thing for Indian folks and African American/British folks. Apparently your friends who have gone there after studying/living in India for decades know just as much about institutional racism as a black man who has grown up being made to feel like a second class citizen in his own country. One size fits all apparently. Also, thanks for criticizing the West's wokeness. As I mentioned in the other thread, we would all love to live in conditions where a comedian can't make a joke at a pub without the government locking him up. As Moyesy would say - that's what the West aspires to. That's definitely preferable to wokeness amirite? There are 1.3 billion Indians , am sure not even one of us will project India as some sort of role model for governance. Now about the comedians arrest , government didnt take case on him , one of the person who saw the event had issues with its content and complained to police , he was arrested under existing laws. Rest assured he will get a fair trial. Whether that law is fair or not is another matter. I dont agree with his arrest, if you want to know my take on it. Freedom of speech is better left alone , the moment someone tries to restrict it even with good intention all sort of trouble starts. I will give a background on the 'comedy' for the people here. Since this is the second time you have brought it up. In 2002 58 hindu pilgrims returning home was locked in a train compartment and burned to death by a mob of another religion. A communal riot erupted 100s of people lost their life , 1000's lost their livelihood. Now our comedian joked by referring to the incident as film directed by hindu organizations. If you want the emotional equivalent imagine a german guy 'joking' to jews how he thought holocaust was a film directed by jews.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Jan 8, 2021 19:02:59 GMT
It would be helpful if you could tell what the 'nonsensical drivel' i said. I just said pointed out some facts and things i didnt agree with , unlike some members here i didnt go about abusing people who disagreed with me. I criticized the west/RoM for this obsession with newfound wokeness (emergent in last 10 years maybe) not for being liberal in a classical sense. You know most people from other parts of the world would jump at the first chance if they get a job in US or europe. I have my cousin and his family living in london , friends who have worked in US for considerable time , none of them felt west is a inherently racist place to be which is what the BLM is essentially suggesting , which is why I cant support that. If anybody want to discuss without being sarcastic or shouting abuses or a calling names iam ready , otherwise i am out of this Why thank you for gerrymandering the conversation based on the experiences of 5 people you know . If they say it isn't inherently racist then of course they know it all. And of course its the same thing for Indian folks and African American/British folks. Apparently your friends who have gone there after studying/living in India for decades know just as much about institutional racism as a black man who has grown up being made to feel like a second class citizen in his own country. One size fits all apparently. Also, thanks for criticizing the West's wokeness. As I mentioned in the other thread, we would all love to live in conditions where a comedian can't make a joke at a pub without the government locking him up. As Moyesy would say - that's what the West aspires to. That's definitely preferable to wokeness amirite? Now about the institutionalized racisms in US and Europe , i remember having the same discussion last time when that FA's head said something controversial. Unless you are ready to change your view of 'Every single difference in outcome among different groups of people is due to discrimination alone' , we dont have any common ground to discuss. It would be better to leave it
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Post by JamBritRed on Jan 8, 2021 20:42:28 GMT
I cant help but notice a certain persons post about the actions of the rioters completely ignores the actions of the authorities in both scenarios. From certain politicians referring to one group (back in the summer) as rioters and the other group (yesterday) as protesters; to the heavy handed, premeditated show of force (again, in the summer) vs the kid gloves, 'can you please go home now, let me walk you out of the building and take a selfie' and turning up when its getting dark and the curfew is in place approach (yesterday) from the security forces. From these eyes, those were the glaring examples of the institutionalized racism that the group back in the summer were speaking about, and that those in power are slowly coming to realise is the reality in the country. A woman was shot and killed , so much for the kid gloves treatment. Not to mention most politicians and mainstream media have condemned this (rightly so). All i said in my initial post was i expected the same from people in similar cases. your an "exception, not the rule" kind of guy aren't you?
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Post by Stew on Jan 8, 2021 23:30:15 GMT
Twitter have permanently suspended his account.
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Post by Reduntildeath on Jan 9, 2021 1:06:45 GMT
Twitter have permanently suspended his account. Finally, after they’ve been asked to do this by loads of people ever since he was inaugurated. A tad hypocrite too, given that they've banned far more people from their platform for far less! He’ll have to fuck off and join Katy Hopkins, Steve Bannon and all the other,like-minded people on Parler!
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Post by redcase on Jan 9, 2021 4:35:38 GMT
Twitter have permanently suspended his account. Finally, after they’ve been asked to do this by loads of people ever since he was inaugurated. A tad hypocrite too, given that they've banned far more people from their platform for far less! He’ll have to fuck off and join Katy Hopkins, Steve Bannon and all the other,like-minded people on Parler! Parler has been removed from the android platform.
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Post by king nothing on Jan 9, 2021 8:15:53 GMT
Ban him from twitter, but he still has control over a fucking nuclear arsenal! What a crazy situation.
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Post by Stew on Jan 9, 2021 8:47:19 GMT
Ban him from twitter, but he still has control over a fucking nuclear arsenal! What a crazy situation. Pelosi commented on this yesterday. I think a general has reassured her that checks are in place to prevent that orange nut-job from doing anything there. The fact that I had to reassure you on that subject is quite something but hey, it’s Trump.
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