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Post by CaajScot on Mar 10, 2018 17:53:44 GMT
SAT 10 MAR 2018 PREMIER LEAGUE
Manchester United 2|1 LiverpoolRashford (14' minutes, 24' minutes)
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HT 2-0
Bailly (66' minutes og)Man of the match - Romelu Lukaku (Manchester United)
This will go down as another game where the Belgium striker has drawn a blank against a 'big six' team but if you look beyond the statistics, you would see a brilliant all-round performance. Lukaku led the line superbly, made both of United's goals, and also helped them keep Liverpool quiet after the break with his defending from set-pieces.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43267244
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Mar 10, 2018 18:05:07 GMT
As I said in the summer, our success won’t be determined by the number of goals our top scores gets, but the contribution from our secondary scorers. The difference between Lukaku (22) and Aguero (30) in all comps is 8 goals. Yet, Fellaini is our 5th highest goal scorer with 4 goals. Gundogan has scored 4 gods for City and is their 9th highest scorer. The difference in goals between the 2nd to 9th goal scorers is 28 goals (City 77 goals, United 49 goals.) Lingard, Martial and Rashford (2nd to 4th) have 34 goals, Sterling, Sane and De Bruyne (2nd to 4th) have 43. The biggest gap comes in the 5th -9th goal scorers with Jesus, both Silva’s, Otamendi and Gundogan (34 combined) outscoring Fellaini, Mata, Pogba, Valencia and Mkhitaryan (15 combined) by 19 goals. Point being, the responsibility for goal scoring cannot rest on the sole striker. Sure Lukaku can improve on his goal tally, but he cannot make up a 28 goal difference on his own. The likes of Pogba, Sanchez, Mata and the Fellaini replacement need to contribute much much more if we are to compete at the highest levels. This. You should show up more often, you usually post good stuff. |
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Post by Karma on Mar 10, 2018 18:45:10 GMT
Anyone still want to swap him for Morata?
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Mar 15, 2018 3:31:57 GMT
As I said in the summer, our success won’t be determined by the number of goals our top scores gets, but the contribution from our secondary scorers. The difference between Lukaku (22) and Aguero (30) in all comps is 8 goals. Yet, Fellaini is our 5th highest goal scorer with 4 goals. Gundogan has scored 4 gods for City and is their 9th highest scorer. The difference in goals between the 2nd to 9th goal scorers is 28 goals (City 77 goals, United 49 goals.) Lingard, Martial and Rashford (2nd to 4th) have 34 goals, Sterling, Sane and De Bruyne (2nd to 4th) have 43. The biggest gap comes in the 5th -9th goal scorers with Jesus, both Silva’s, Otamendi and Gundogan (34 combined) outscoring Fellaini, Mata, Pogba, Valencia and Mkhitaryan (15 combined) by 19 goals. Point being, the responsibility for goal scoring cannot rest on the sole striker. Sure Lukaku can improve on his goal tally, but he cannot make up a 28 goal difference on his own. The likes of Pogba, Sanchez, Mata and the Fellaini replacement need to contribute much much more if we are to compete at the highest levels. This. You should show up more often, you usually post good stuff. Bless. Work has been all consuming of late and I don’t have the time I’d like. I creep more than I post lately. |
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Mar 15, 2018 10:48:50 GMT
This. You should show up more often, you usually post good stuff. Bless. Work has been all consuming of late and I don’t have the time I’d like. I creep more than I post lately. That's a shame really. |
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Post by CaajScot on Mar 19, 2018 19:41:52 GMT
19/03/2018 17:02, Report by Joe Ganley
ROMELU LUKAKU JOINS AN ELITE CLUB
Romelu Lukaku’s opening goal in Manchester United’s 2-0 Emirates FA Cup win over Brighton & Hove Albion on Saturday was the striker’s 25th across all competitions, in what is becoming an increasingly impressive debut season at Old Trafford.
It means the Belgium international has become just the eighth United player to reach that milestone in their first campaign at the club, which hoists him alongside notable alumni like Denis Law, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Dwight Yorke. Following his switch from Everton last summer, the 24-year-old has wasted little time in endearing himself to the Old Trafford faithful, converting on his club debut in the UEFA Super Cup, Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup. And with a potential 10 games still remaining during 2017/18, there’s plenty of time for our no.9 to improve on what has already been an outstanding season. But how many more strikes does Lukaku require to post the most prolific debut season in United history? To find out, we took a look at the seven other players to reach the hallowed 25-goal mark during their very first term in red… RUUD VAN NISTELROOY (36 goals, 2001/02)
No striker in the club’s history has made an impact as explosive as Ruud van Nistelrooy and, incredibly, his 36-goal debut season came after a year spent on the sidelines, following a cruciate knee-ligament injury. Such a setback has proven terminal to the fledgling careers of plenty of footballers, but not Ruud. United had attempted to sign him in the summer of 2000, but the move fell through due to a failed medical and that traumatic injury, but Sir Alex Ferguson would not be deterred. He kept in touch with the PSV Eindhoven forward and, a year later, van Nistelrooy arrived – and what havoc he would wreak upon the defences of England and Europe. His best season in M16 was his second, where he smuggled, blasted and poached 44 goals – propelling the Reds to the 2002/03 title – and he would reach 100 United strikes in just 131 games, but who can forget that first rampaging campaign? Those 36 goals represent the best achieved by a United player in their first season at the club. BRIAN MCCLAIR (31 goals, 1987/88)
As sensational as the first sightings of Ruud in a red shirt were, he joined a team that had just won the title for a third consecutive season. A cursory glance at the midfield behind him on any given Saturday would have revealed one, if not all, of Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Paul Scholes, Roy Keane and Juan Sebastian Veron. Ammunition was not in short supply. By contrast, when Brian McClair rocked up in the summer of 1987, United had just finished 11th in Division One. No player had reached 25 goals in a season for the club since George Best in 1971/72. But the man soon to be affectionately known as ‘Choccy’ claimed 31 goals after transferring from Celtic, helping United reach second spot in the league. He would go on to play a key role in the trophy-laden seasons that followed during the 1990s, but his first months at the club were vital in helping then-new manager Ferguson demonstrate some early signs of progress. ROBIN VAN PERSIE (30 goals, 2012/13)
If Choccy was Sir Alex’s first striking superstar, Robin van Persie was his last. Few players in football history are so influential that an entire championship is associated with their name, but the former Arsenal man’s impact on United’s 20th league title was extraordinary. After losing the 2011/12 title to Manchester City on goal difference, Ferguson knew the Reds needed a spark to reignite the team’s confidence and van Persie’s goals instantaneously lit a fire that burned throughout the entire season. The title was clinched by 11 points and, in league terms, the Netherlands striker's 26 goals is the best supplied by a player in their first season at the club. Sadly, the Dutchman was unable to replicate his blistering first 12 months in Manchester, but he left for Fenerbahce in 2015 having scored a very healthy 58 times in 105 appearances. DWIGHT YORKE (29 goals, 1998/99)
The greatest season in the club’s history is now largely remembered through the prism of a manic 11-day period in which United sealed an unprecedented Treble, with wins over Tottenham Hotspur, Newcastle United and Bayern Munich. Dwight Yorke failed to score in each of those three critical matches but, put simply, United would have been nowhere near a clean sweep of the three greatest trophies available to them if not for the Tobagonian’s contribution. His gleeful rapport with striking partner Andy Cole fuelled the Treble tilt throughout the less glamorous autumn and winter months, laying the platform for the unforgettable climax in Barcelona provided by Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Yorke’s goals were varied in style – encompassing impudent chips, diving headers and tap-ins – but his intelligence and enthusiasm were a nightmare for defences and a delight for team-mates. His first year at United would remain his best, but he won the title in each of his three full seasons at the club, finishing with 66 goals in 152 games. DENIS LAW (29 goals, 1962/63)
You don’t earn a moniker like ‘The King’ for trundling around the pitch making up the numbers and, of all the players in this elite club, Denis Law’s appearance is perhaps the least surprising. Matt Busby parted with a world-record fee to snare Law from Torino, and the man from Aberdeen was the first of United’s ‘Holy Trinity’ to win the Ballon d’Or. His unsurprisingly excellent first term culminated in the 1963 FA Cup final against Leicester City. Law opened the scoring with his 29th and final goal of the season, paving the way to the club’s first post-Munich trophy. The following campaign, he blitzed 46 goals, which is still the most prolific season by an individual in United history. He would fail to reach 25 in just one of his first five seasons (falling one short in 1965/66) and his 237 career goals for United place him third in the club’s all-time goalscorers list. Of the top 10, only Dennis Viollet boasts a better scoring ratio than ‘The Lawman’. ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC (28 goals, 2016/17)
Frustratingly, we’ll never know just how many goals the iconic Zlatan Ibrahimovic might have mustered in his first season at Old Trafford. The Swede was felled by a traumatic knee injury with 10 games of United’s successful 2016/17 campaign still remaining, after bagging 28 goals in 46 matches. Zlatan has been restricted to just seven appearances thus far this campaign – adding one further goal to his United tally – but his input during a season in which United claimed the League Cup and the Europa League ensures his career at Old Trafford will always be remembered fondly as he proved, as predicted, that he would continue to show his class in England. JACK PICKEN (25 goals, 1905/06)
The least known member of the first-season 25 club that Lukaku joined with his goal against Brighton was also its first member. Scotsman Jack Picken was signed from Plymouth Argyle in the summer of 1905, and notched 20 league goals and five FA Cup strikes during his maiden season at United. He would eventually lose his place in the first team due to the emergence of Sandy Turnbull, who would trump Picken’s 25 goals with a then-club record 27 in 1907/08. Incidentally, Turnbull joined midway through the preceding campaign, which means, like Eric Cantona after him (25 goals in 1993/94), he earns honorary membership for reaching our milestone during the first full season he spent at the club. Can Lukaku overhaul van Nistelrooy, McClair, Van Persie and the rest? With 10 goals since the turn of the year, we’re not willing to bet against United’s in-form no.9… www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2018/Mar/Romelu-Lukaku-joins-elite-club-after-reaching-25-goals.aspx
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Post by GeniusCantona on Mar 19, 2018 20:09:09 GMT
19/03/2018 17:02, Report by Joe Ganley
ROMELU LUKAKU JOINS AN ELITE CLUB
Romelu Lukaku’s opening goal in Manchester United’s 2-0 Emirates FA Cup win over Brighton & Hove Albion on Saturday was the striker’s 25th across all competitions, in what is becoming an increasingly impressive debut season at Old Trafford.
It means the Belgium international has become just the eighth United player to reach that milestone in their first campaign at the club, which hoists him alongside notable alumni like Denis Law, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Dwight Yorke. Following his switch from Everton last summer, the 24-year-old has wasted little time in endearing himself to the Old Trafford faithful, converting on his club debut in the UEFA Super Cup, Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup. And with a potential 10 games still remaining during 2017/18, there’s plenty of time for our no.9 to improve on what has already been an outstanding season. But how many more strikes does Lukaku require to post the most prolific debut season in United history? To find out, we took a look at the seven other players to reach the hallowed 25-goal mark during their very first term in red… RUUD VAN NISTELROOY (36 goals, 2001/02)
No striker in the club’s history has made an impact as explosive as Ruud van Nistelrooy and, incredibly, his 36-goal debut season came after a year spent on the sidelines, following a cruciate knee-ligament injury. Such a setback has proven terminal to the fledgling careers of plenty of footballers, but not Ruud. United had attempted to sign him in the summer of 2000, but the move fell through due to a failed medical and that traumatic injury, but Sir Alex Ferguson would not be deterred. He kept in touch with the PSV Eindhoven forward and, a year later, van Nistelrooy arrived – and what havoc he would wreak upon the defences of England and Europe. His best season in M16 was his second, where he smuggled, blasted and poached 44 goals – propelling the Reds to the 2002/03 title – and he would reach 100 United strikes in just 131 games, but who can forget that first rampaging campaign? Those 36 goals represent the best achieved by a United player in their first season at the club. BRIAN MCCLAIR (31 goals, 1987/88)
As sensational as the first sightings of Ruud in a red shirt were, he joined a team that had just won the title for a third consecutive season. A cursory glance at the midfield behind him on any given Saturday would have revealed one, if not all, of Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Paul Scholes, Roy Keane and Juan Sebastian Veron. Ammunition was not in short supply. By contrast, when Brian McClair rocked up in the summer of 1987, United had just finished 11th in Division One. No player had reached 25 goals in a season for the club since George Best in 1971/72. But the man soon to be affectionately known as ‘Choccy’ claimed 31 goals after transferring from Celtic, helping United reach second spot in the league. He would go on to play a key role in the trophy-laden seasons that followed during the 1990s, but his first months at the club were vital in helping then-new manager Ferguson demonstrate some early signs of progress. ROBIN VAN PERSIE (30 goals, 2012/13)
If Choccy was Sir Alex’s first striking superstar, Robin van Persie was his last. Few players in football history are so influential that an entire championship is associated with their name, but the former Arsenal man’s impact on United’s 20th league title was extraordinary. After losing the 2011/12 title to Manchester City on goal difference, Ferguson knew the Reds needed a spark to reignite the team’s confidence and van Persie’s goals instantaneously lit a fire that burned throughout the entire season. The title was clinched by 11 points and, in league terms, the Netherlands striker's 26 goals is the best supplied by a player in their first season at the club. Sadly, the Dutchman was unable to replicate his blistering first 12 months in Manchester, but he left for Fenerbahce in 2015 having scored a very healthy 58 times in 105 appearances. DWIGHT YORKE (29 goals, 1998/99)
The greatest season in the club’s history is now largely remembered through the prism of a manic 11-day period in which United sealed an unprecedented Treble, with wins over Tottenham Hotspur, Newcastle United and Bayern Munich. Dwight Yorke failed to score in each of those three critical matches but, put simply, United would have been nowhere near a clean sweep of the three greatest trophies available to them if not for the Tobagonian’s contribution. His gleeful rapport with striking partner Andy Cole fuelled the Treble tilt throughout the less glamorous autumn and winter months, laying the platform for the unforgettable climax in Barcelona provided by Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Yorke’s goals were varied in style – encompassing impudent chips, diving headers and tap-ins – but his intelligence and enthusiasm were a nightmare for defences and a delight for team-mates. His first year at United would remain his best, but he won the title in each of his three full seasons at the club, finishing with 66 goals in 152 games. DENIS LAW (29 goals, 1962/63)
You don’t earn a moniker like ‘The King’ for trundling around the pitch making up the numbers and, of all the players in this elite club, Denis Law’s appearance is perhaps the least surprising. Matt Busby parted with a world-record fee to snare Law from Torino, and the man from Aberdeen was the first of United’s ‘Holy Trinity’ to win the Ballon d’Or. His unsurprisingly excellent first term culminated in the 1963 FA Cup final against Leicester City. Law opened the scoring with his 29th and final goal of the season, paving the way to the club’s first post-Munich trophy. The following campaign, he blitzed 46 goals, which is still the most prolific season by an individual in United history. He would fail to reach 25 in just one of his first five seasons (falling one short in 1965/66) and his 237 career goals for United place him third in the club’s all-time goalscorers list. Of the top 10, only Dennis Viollet boasts a better scoring ratio than ‘The Lawman’. ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC (28 goals, 2016/17)
Frustratingly, we’ll never know just how many goals the iconic Zlatan Ibrahimovic might have mustered in his first season at Old Trafford. The Swede was felled by a traumatic knee injury with 10 games of United’s successful 2016/17 campaign still remaining, after bagging 28 goals in 46 matches. Zlatan has been restricted to just seven appearances thus far this campaign – adding one further goal to his United tally – but his input during a season in which United claimed the League Cup and the Europa League ensures his career at Old Trafford will always be remembered fondly as he proved, as predicted, that he would continue to show his class in England. JACK PICKEN (25 goals, 1905/06)
The least known member of the first-season 25 club that Lukaku joined with his goal against Brighton was also its first member. Scotsman Jack Picken was signed from Plymouth Argyle in the summer of 1905, and notched 20 league goals and five FA Cup strikes during his maiden season at United. He would eventually lose his place in the first team due to the emergence of Sandy Turnbull, who would trump Picken’s 25 goals with a then-club record 27 in 1907/08. Incidentally, Turnbull joined midway through the preceding campaign, which means, like Eric Cantona after him (25 goals in 1993/94), he earns honorary membership for reaching our milestone during the first full season he spent at the club. Can Lukaku overhaul van Nistelrooy, McClair, Van Persie and the rest? With 10 goals since the turn of the year, we’re not willing to bet against United’s in-form no.9… www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2018/Mar/Romelu-Lukaku-joins-elite-club-after-reaching-25-goals.aspx Excellent and still plenty of time to move up that list! He's really impressed the past few months and seemed to earn even more respect for having the guts to face the media after the Sevilla result. He's growing into a leader. |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Mar 20, 2018 7:16:04 GMT
Lukaku to me is bit of weird case , i mean he doesn't look like truly elite level talent (like aguero) when you watch him , but his statistics are really up there.
Very happy with him so far , hope he keeps getting better.
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Post by Sméagol on Mar 27, 2018 19:37:55 GMT
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Post by Sméagol on Mar 27, 2018 19:40:33 GMT
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Post by Deez on Mar 27, 2018 22:00:59 GMT
I think everybody would have taken these numbers at this point in his debut season. He's only getting better too at the moment.
His numbers would be even better if it wasnt for that dry spell for him
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 14:25:23 GMT
hard to argue
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Mar 28, 2018 17:15:34 GMT
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Post by Deez on Mar 30, 2018 23:13:19 GMT
Im thinking of changing my avi from Tony to the big man Rom.
Anyone got any good pictures as a suggestion? (Barring the head pic that Mertens put up)
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Post by CaajScot on Mar 31, 2018 18:33:35 GMT
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"United’s flag is deepest red, it shrouded all our Munich dead. Before their limbs grew stiff and cold, their heart’s blood dyed it’s ev’ry fold. Then raise United’s banner high, beneath it’s shade we’ll live and die. So keep the faith and never fear." 
