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Post by Karma on Dec 30, 2017 21:44:02 GMT
I think we need to look at what's available in the January transfer window.
I also think a director of football needs serious consideration.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 22:42:37 GMT
Didn't we have a thread with this title before?
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Post by Karma on Dec 30, 2017 22:56:50 GMT
Didn't we have a thread with this title before? Not sure. Certainly not recently anyway. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 30, 2017 22:59:39 GMT
Keep sacking managers.
Let the players know that they can get away with everything.
Job done.
Champions within the century.
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Post by Karma on Dec 30, 2017 23:11:17 GMT
Keep sacking managers. Let the players know that they can get away with everything. Job done. Champions within the century. Yep. We're not Chelsea. We don't have the funds to keep sacking managers rather than deal with a toxic dressing room or underperforming players. Moyes had to go because he was completely out of his depth and shouldn't have got the job in the first place. LVG would have been in his final year anyway and there were better options available. He had the right pedigree but it didn't work out. If we replace Jose this season and the next guy doesn't improve us do we sack him as well? I don't see Jose here for the long term anyway but unless we have another Chelsea situation I hope he sees out his contract. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:31:40 GMT
I think we need to look at what's available in the January transfer window. I also think a director of football needs serious consideration. Director of football is an absolute must. I'd recommend Ferguson. |
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Post by Reduntildeath on Dec 30, 2017 23:37:12 GMT
I think we need to look at what's available in the January transfer window. I also think a director of football needs serious consideration. Director of football is an absolute must. I'd recommend Ferguson. Well him and José are supposed to be bezzie’s so why not? Although I somehow suspect that José would see it as his wings being clipped and would be off. |
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Post by Karma on Dec 30, 2017 23:37:14 GMT
I think we need to look at what's available in the January transfer window. I also think a director of football needs serious consideration. Director of football is an absolute must. I'd recommend Ferguson. Fergie needs to enjoy his retirement and we need to look elsewhere. I have absolutely no confidence with Mr Ed swaggering around. |
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Post by stilgar on Dec 30, 2017 23:45:02 GMT
We need a good director of football. Our current owners and leaders have no clue about the sport. They good at the business side.
Our problems at least partially come from the fact that we had three totally different managers. We need a good concept and we need managers who fit in this concept and who can build on the work of their predecessors.
Also our youth system has to know what kind of players we want to use in the future. We only waste time, money and probably some good players if our future managers won't use our young players because they doesn't fit in their style.
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Post by king nothing on Dec 31, 2017 1:32:09 GMT
Fergie is 76 tomorrow. I think he has earned his retirement.
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Post by Deez on Dec 31, 2017 9:38:10 GMT
Fergie is 76 tomorrow. I think he has earned his retirement. Yep. He postponed it for us once, he'll always be an ambassador etc but he probably has no desire to come back into the football world and we can't expect him to. Also I think his presence as DoF would be too overbearing for any manager just because of his name. I suggest a DoF but we would need to pick very smart. If we just get a name in for the sake of it then it would just create more problems with the manager. I'm not too clued up on good DoFs tbh but Monchi? He's always punched above his weight so I'd imagine he would smash it with our budget |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jan 22, 2018 13:06:09 GMT
A DoF is an absolute must in the medium term IMO. We need to be careful that Jose feels like the DoF works for him, not the other way around, but that can be managed. The main job would be to ease away control of transfers from Ed so he can go get more noodle sponsorships, and this seems like the best way to do that.
It also provides more continuity should the manager leave for whatever reason. A good DoF can help foster a more general playing style whilst allowing managers to have control, and help the club choose targets whilst letting managers have the final say. Our last manager and our current one have near opposite philosophies and that definitely led to a lot of teething problems; a DoF could help smooth issues like that over in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 13:25:01 GMT
A DoF is an absolute must in the medium term IMO. We need to be careful that Jose feels like the DoF works for him, not the other way around, but that can be managed. The main job would be to ease away control of transfers from Ed so he can go get more noodle sponsorships, and this seems like the best way to do that. It also provides more continuity should the manager leave for whatever reason. A good DoF can help foster a more general playing style whilst allowing managers to have control, and help the club choose targets whilst letting managers have the final say. Our last manager and our current one have near opposite philosophies and that definitely led to a lot of teething problems; a DoF could help smooth issues like that over in the future. Too big for a DoF until the current generation of superstar managers fuck off/retire. No manager we'd all like to take over if Jose fucked off now would work under a Dof. And the Owners/Ed take a risk on someone after the Moyes fuck-up |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jan 22, 2018 14:04:10 GMT
A DoF is an absolute must in the medium term IMO. We need to be careful that Jose feels like the DoF works for him, not the other way around, but that can be managed. The main job would be to ease away control of transfers from Ed so he can go get more noodle sponsorships, and this seems like the best way to do that. It also provides more continuity should the manager leave for whatever reason. A good DoF can help foster a more general playing style whilst allowing managers to have control, and help the club choose targets whilst letting managers have the final say. Our last manager and our current one have near opposite philosophies and that definitely led to a lot of teething problems; a DoF could help smooth issues like that over in the future. Too big for a DoF until the current generation of superstar managers fuck off/retire. No manager we'd all like to take over if Jose fucked off now would work under a Dof. And the Owners/Ed take a risk on someone after the Moyes fuck-up It depends. I think Pep works with a DoF at City and likes it, but that (I think) is because they are a team rather than Pep being beneath the DoF. If we made clear to the manager that the DoF was there to make their lives easier, not to tell them who they'd be getting in the summer, then they would be more interested. It's like the DoF will suggest names to buy, the manager picks one, the DoF gets them, rather than the DoF picking the players the manager will receive. The main benefit would just be getting Ed away from transfers. That's what we desperately need. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jan 22, 2018 14:25:05 GMT
Or you could just employ a competent manager, stick by him and let him pick his own players?
Or just hire a negotiator around the time of any transfers rather than pay someone a full time wage for a couple months work.
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