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Post by RAZ on Jan 16, 2018 8:29:26 GMT
Positives: our goals tonight were sensational Pogba is sublime. although his midfield competition were dreadful. he made them look even worse though. his range of passing is one of the best in the league; left foot, right foot. I like that he does play with arrogance and does skill all over the pitch, its entertaining. pundits who says he plays with self-indulgence - LOL. Zidane was glorified for it. Mata was one of our best players and gutted he didn't score. Lukaku had one of his best all round games. who cares if its stat padding goals, its still a goal. hopefully boost his confidence even more to take into the big games. Martial is so close to being a super star. I thought he started the game very poorly, but then scores a beaut out of nowhere. love his reactions after he or a team mate scores too. shaw looked like hes getting back to his best, more confidence, good runs, good passing and decisions. we look such a better team when we have actually full backs attacking high up the pitch. negatives: SMALLING. ENOUGH SAID. matic looked tired and over ran at times. we were very lucky to not be losing in the first half hoping stoke get relegated as they offer absolutely nothing to the league. who even wants to travel to stoke on a cold, wet night too. agree with everything apart your negatives...i dont see it. |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jan 16, 2018 9:08:15 GMT
I do think Matic needs a rest.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jan 16, 2018 9:09:17 GMT
www.football365.com/news/f365-says-matic-running-on-empty-to-provide-stage-for-pogbaF365 Says: Matic running on empty to provide Pogba’s stageWhile Paul Pogba did his best to refocus the minds of Manchester United fans at Old Trafford, much of the attention was undoubtedly elsewhere, with the news that Manchester City had indeed pulled out of the race for Alexis Sanchez breaking around about the time that Anthony Martial doubled the Red Devils’ first-half lead against Stoke. Once they had their early opener, it was generally a routine victory for United against a bottom-three dweller waiting to start work for their new manager on Tuesday morning. Pogba pulled the strings, providing first-half assists for Antonio Valencia and Martial, though both had plenty to do upon receiving the ball from United’s talisman. Sanchez, wherever he might fit into United’s attack, will surely love playing with Pogba, and vice versa. Despite missing a large chunk of the season, Pogba has a joint-Premier League high of nine assists to his name – the same number of Kevin De Bruyne, though the United star has played 10 games fewer. Those lay-offs, first through injury then a three-game suspension, will stand Pogba in good stead to build on that contribution throughout the remainder of the season. But his midfield partner, Nemanja Matic, is in desperate need of a break himself. Against Stoke, Matic was again left to do most of Pogba’s dirty work. Not that there was an abdication of defensive duties from the star attraction; Matic could probably anchor a United midfield against the likes of Stoke in his sleep, while Pogba’s influence is far better used in the attacking third. How to get the most out of Pogba was one of Mourinho’s toughest conundrums until recently. The £89million man regularly showed glimpses of his brilliance but finding the balance between giving him the freedom to perform while also satisfying the manager’s defensive urges seemed too often to have a stifling effect. Mourinho’s answer, it seems, is to give Matic more responsibility. The summer recruit can handle it, especially during the more routine tests like Stoke offered on Monday night. But the added workload comes at a cost: Matic has certainly looked more jaded in recent weeks. During the last game of November at Watford, Matic picked up a muscular injury, with fatigue possibly a factor. He seemed certain to miss the trip to Arsenal a few days later but, somehow, Mourinho wheeled out his key man at the Emirates, where again he was pivotal. Matic has played every minute in the Premier League since, but he certainly appears to be playing more conservatively. That could be because Pogba’s freedom forces him, but tiredness must be playing a part. If it isn’t already, it will surely soon. Matic has started more games and played more minutes than any other outfield team-mate. Romelu Lukaku is closest having played 134 minutes fewer, and much was made by Mourinho of the centre-forward’s fatigue during the early part of the winter. Matic has not been afforded similar sympathy but his workload must be having an effect. Matic admitted as much last month: “It’s hard because every three days you have a game, but the most important things are motivation and desire. We know that we are tired – but we also know that the other teams also play every few days.” Unfortunately, Mourinho cannot spare Matic, even against the likes of Stoke. Before kick-off, there were rumours that Michael Carrick was to be brought in for his first start of the season, with Matic to be given another breather after a rare night off in the FA Cup against Derby last week. Not so, as it transpired. Carrick was the 19th man in the match-day squad, while last year’s player of the season was kept in reserve. Ander Herrera claimed that accolade in May on the basis of his energy and industry in the centre of midfield, often alongside Pogba. But Matic’s performances have been a level above what Herrera can give. Whatever qualities the Spaniard possesses, he cannot offer the impeccable composure, intelligence and discipline of Matic, or provide the same stage for Pogba. That is no great slight against Herrera; very few can match the Serbian. When Scott McTominay plays, Mourinho likes him next to Matic rather than in his place, while Marouane Fellaini has many similar physical traits, but not the technical and psychological ones. Mourinho, nor Pogba, simply cannot do without Matic but such indispensability takes its toll. While Sanchez is a player United felt they could not afford to pass up, the Red Devils should focus just as hard on recruiting – either now or in the summer – a player who is trustworthy enough to stand in for Matic. Somebody has to provide a stage for the likes of Pogba and Sanchez to shine. Ian Watson
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Post by redcase on Jan 16, 2018 9:16:01 GMT
Martial makes it look easy , but the skill required to bang it in that corner , from that range , without taking even a touch , is absolutely ridiculous. I mean that is just pure , distilled genius.
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Post by caino on Jan 16, 2018 12:19:04 GMT
Positives: our goals tonight were sensational Pogba is sublime. although his midfield competition were dreadful. he made them look even worse though. his range of passing is one of the best in the league; left foot, right foot. I like that he does play with arrogance and does skill all over the pitch, its entertaining. pundits who says he plays with self-indulgence - LOL. Zidane was glorified for it. Mata was one of our best players and gutted he didn't score. Lukaku had one of his best all round games. who cares if its stat padding goals, its still a goal. hopefully boost his confidence even more to take into the big games. Martial is so close to being a super star. I thought he started the game very poorly, but then scores a beaut out of nowhere. love his reactions after he or a team mate scores too. shaw looked like hes getting back to his best, more confidence, good runs, good passing and decisions. we look such a better team when we have actually full backs attacking high up the pitch. negatives: SMALLING. ENOUGH SAID. matic looked tired and over ran at times. we were very lucky to not be losing in the first half hoping stoke get relegated as they offer absolutely nothing to the league. who even wants to travel to stoke on a cold, wet night too. agree with everything apart your negatives...i dont see it. I did, Crouch moved Smalling out of position a couple of times. once opening up a huge hole in the defence where Ireland should have scored... another losing a header which we nearly conceded from, this was also a mix up with DDG so not all blame goes to him. but then him and Shaw falling over each other. he just does not fill me with any confidence as a starting CB. hes good and solid. but has so many mistakes under him. need Bailly back ASAP matic was outplayed a couple of times that they had chances from. doesn't help hes the only midfielder defending though. they had more shot and shots on target in the first half. 1 chance from pretty much the pen spot with no1 in front of him. a DDG good save. a phil jones block at an open goal. a snap shot from Ireland which was still a pretty good chance in the pen box. |
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Post by RAZ on Jan 16, 2018 12:47:58 GMT
agree with everything apart your negatives...i dont see it. I did, Crouch moved Smalling out of position a couple of times. once opening up a huge hole in the defence where Ireland should have scored... another losing a header which we nearly conceded from, this was also a mix up with DDG so not all blame goes to him. but then him and Shaw falling over each other. he just does not fill me with any confidence as a starting CB. hes good and solid. but has so many mistakes under him. need Bailly back ASAP matic was outplayed a couple of times that they had chances from. doesn't help hes the only midfielder defending though. they had more shot and shots on target in the first half. 1 chance from pretty much the pen spot with no1 in front of him. a DDG good save. a phil jones block at an open goal. a snap shot from Ireland which was still a pretty good chance in the pen box. aye, he had a couple of mistakes during the game. but the same can be said for all our defenders in each and every game. he`s been very solid this season. but yes, we need bailly back as soon as possible. i dont remember matic being outplayed yesterday. he was everywhere, rock solid. almost a bit like kante, where you wonder, how the hell did you make up that ground? matic looks a bit tired but he was superb yesterday. his level of performances is unbelievable. |
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Post by Bestie on Jan 16, 2018 12:50:37 GMT
I did, Crouch moved Smalling out of position a couple of times. once opening up a huge hole in the defence where Ireland should have scored... another losing a header which we nearly conceded from, this was also a mix up with DDG so not all blame goes to him. but then him and Shaw falling over each other. he just does not fill me with any confidence as a starting CB. hes good and solid. but has so many mistakes under him. need Bailly back ASAP matic was outplayed a couple of times that they had chances from. doesn't help hes the only midfielder defending though. they had more shot and shots on target in the first half. 1 chance from pretty much the pen spot with no1 in front of him. a DDG good save. a phil jones block at an open goal. a snap shot from Ireland which was still a pretty good chance in the pen box. aye, he had a couple of mistakes during the game. but the same can be said for all our defenders in each and every game. he`s been very solid this season. but yes, we need bailly back as soon as possible. i dont remember matic being outplayed yesterday. he was everywhere, rock solid. almost a bit like kante, where you wonder, how the hell did you make up that ground? matic looks a bit tired but he was superb yesterday. his level of performances is unbelievable. Everywhere except for the two times he allowed Ireland to have a free run into the box because he was ball-watching (which probably comes from a bit of fatigue). |
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Post by caino on Jan 16, 2018 12:58:21 GMT
I did, Crouch moved Smalling out of position a couple of times. once opening up a huge hole in the defence where Ireland should have scored... another losing a header which we nearly conceded from, this was also a mix up with DDG so not all blame goes to him. but then him and Shaw falling over each other. he just does not fill me with any confidence as a starting CB. hes good and solid. but has so many mistakes under him. need Bailly back ASAP matic was outplayed a couple of times that they had chances from. doesn't help hes the only midfielder defending though. they had more shot and shots on target in the first half. 1 chance from pretty much the pen spot with no1 in front of him. a DDG good save. a phil jones block at an open goal. a snap shot from Ireland which was still a pretty good chance in the pen box. aye, he had a couple of mistakes during the game. but the same can be said for all our defenders in each and every game. he`s been very solid this season. but yes, we need bailly back as soon as possible. i dont remember matic being outplayed yesterday. he was everywhere, rock solid. almost a bit like kante, where you wonder, how the hell did you make up that ground? matic looks a bit tired but he was superb yesterday. his level of performances is unbelievable. ill agree with you, hes been very good. he just doesn't fill me with confidence and isn't the brightest of CBs. always 1 mistake away from a complete calamity. Matic was very good but still nearly cost us two goals. you cant blame him cos hes doing a whole midfield job in defending. he just needs a game or two rest. would have liked to see him come off after our 3rd goal and not play for so long. even some of his passing got a little sloppy which will come from fatigue. |
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Post by RAZ on Jan 16, 2018 13:03:38 GMT
aye, he had a couple of mistakes during the game. but the same can be said for all our defenders in each and every game. he`s been very solid this season. but yes, we need bailly back as soon as possible. i dont remember matic being outplayed yesterday. he was everywhere, rock solid. almost a bit like kante, where you wonder, how the hell did you make up that ground? matic looks a bit tired but he was superb yesterday. his level of performances is unbelievable. Everywhere except for the two times he allowed Ireland to have a free run into the box because he was ball-watching (which probably comes from a bit of fatigue). that first time ireland was free in our box was also a fuck up between valencia and smalling. they were expecting a cross and valencia was covering crouch while smalling was stumbling around,trying to get to crouch and missing ireland. i think it was miscommunication |
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Post by Sméagol on Jan 16, 2018 16:25:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 16:03:48 GMT
Keep watching the 2nd goal and cant get over how fantastic that finish was first time from Martial.
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