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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 20:40:02 GMT
As long as the cash cow keeps giving these leeches will keep milking it. It would need a Qatari/Abu Dhabi Royal Family offer to remove these. No thanks. |
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Post by stonecarver2 on Aug 13, 2018 6:01:10 GMT
Shame the 'White Knights' weren't successful. I think it would take government intervention and the introduction of fan ownership models to get things to change. Seems to work well in Germany, and who wouldn't like to have a share in United?
I can not see this ever happening though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 8:50:37 GMT
Shame the 'White Knights' weren't successful. I think it would take government intervention and the introduction of fan ownership models to get things to change. Seems to work well in Germany, and who wouldn't like to have a share in United? I can not see this ever happening though.
I thought they were the Red Knights? A white knight is a dude that defends random women on the internet.
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Post by stonecarver2 on Aug 13, 2018 14:17:21 GMT
Shame the 'White Knights' weren't successful. I think it would take government intervention and the introduction of fan ownership models to get things to change. Seems to work well in Germany, and who wouldn't like to have a share in United? I can not see this ever happening though.
I thought they were the Red Knights? A white knight is a dude that defends random women on the internet.
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Post by Karma on Aug 19, 2018 18:39:14 GMT
We so didn't need to sign an experienced CB to organise that defence after all did we?
Never mind at least we were interested in Varane!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 18:48:11 GMT
Really hate where the club is right now.
The whole club is poisoned from the top down starting with these utter wank muffins. We have a CEO that's useless, a manager that's lost his own identity and most of the players have a piss poor attitude.
Replacing Jose is one issue but its not going to solve the issue or remove the rot. The fact we're on post fergie manager No.3 with the same underlying issues gives evidence to this.
Will a DoF and a new manager be enough?
We all knew it was going to take time after Fergie left but fuck me those excuses should be well done with by now. Since Fergie we've spent an insane amount with little to nothing to show for it, still replacing players with new ones.
Our scouting network used to be so good. Now its like they use FM to do their homework.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 19:05:50 GMT
We so didn't need to sign an experienced CB to organise that defence after all did we? Never mind at least we were interested in Varane! The players we had out there should have seen off Brighton. If they were coached properly and had the right attitude. Neither are the direct responsibility of the board. As for CBs, Jose had his 60-odd million pairing out there today. |
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Post by Karma on Aug 19, 2018 19:25:40 GMT
We so didn't need to sign an experienced CB to organise that defence after all did we? Never mind at least we were interested in Varane! The players we had out there should have seen off Brighton. If they were coached properly and had the right attitude. Neither are the direct responsibility of the board. As for CBs, Jose had his 60-odd million pairing out there today. There comes a point when you can't keep blaming the manager for everything. Bailly is supposed to be one of our first choice CB, he was fecking awful today as was Lindelof. The back ups aren't much better. Jones is a disaster waiting to happen. Rojo isn't good enough even when he isn't injured . Smalling imo is the best of a bad bunch. If you think a change of manager will improve them then that's your opinion. Maybe the two he did sign aren't good enough after all but they don't really have any better waiting in the wings either! Every man and his dog knows we need to bin off our full backs but we haven't. I'm sure some would like to think that it's down to the manager that we haven't replaced them. I'm not buying that whatsoever! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 19:51:18 GMT
The players we had out there should have seen off Brighton. If they were coached properly and had the right attitude. Neither are the direct responsibility of the board. As for CBs, Jose had his 60-odd million pairing out there today. There comes a point when you can't keep blaming the manager for everything. Bailly is supposed to be one of our first choice CB, he was fecking awful today as was Lindelof. The back ups aren't much better. Jones is a disaster waiting to happen. Rojo isn't good enough even when he isn't injured . Smalling imo is the best of a bad bunch. If you think a change of manager will improve them then that's your opinion. Maybe the two he did sign aren't good enough after all but they don't really have any better waiting in the wings either! Every man and his dog knows we need to bin off our full backs but we haven't. I'm sure some would like to think that it's down to the manager that we haven't replaced them. I'm not buying that whatsoever! ״There has been £120m of investment in that back four. You've probably got the best goalkeeper in the world, so from a back-five point of view, you could argue there has been serious investment.״ Gary Neville, 19.8.18 It’s just lazy blaming the owners after defeats. We can’t get all the players we are after. No club does, City included. They have poured money on mediocrity. We had enough quality out there to win the game. We struggle to have a shot on goal. This has nothing to do with CBs |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 20:23:50 GMT
Not a case of blaming the owners after defeats but they are to blame for the clubs structure. Manager, Scouts, coaches...all of these have an impact with players we bring into the club.
We've bought poorly especially defensive. None of our defensive is good enough. This is why Alderweireld should have been paramount important to stabalise the back four if nothing else. He would have been an instant improvement on the shit we had today.
People have said the same old shit about "investing" in players. We've done shit tons of that since Fergie left... And it done it poorly. Out of those players how many were shipped off or simply aren't good enough?...actually it would be easier to answer it with who has been good enough because the answer would be very small.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 20:36:18 GMT
Of course the owners have a lot to answer for, but how many of those blaming them for the structure of the club actually wanted Jose here to “steady the ship”? Now the magic word is DoF, but can imagine the mud throwing in the press if things go tits up when we have a DoF.
We played Brighton today, who had Dunk (not for too long) and Duffy at CB... Facing Lukaku and Martial. We have at least three better CBs and they had to handle Glenn Murray. Our problem is not a new CB. At least our biggest concern isn’t.
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Post by Karma on Aug 19, 2018 22:42:08 GMT
There comes a point when you can't keep blaming the manager for everything. Bailly is supposed to be one of our first choice CB, he was fecking awful today as was Lindelof. The back ups aren't much better. Jones is a disaster waiting to happen. Rojo isn't good enough even when he isn't injured . Smalling imo is the best of a bad bunch. If you think a change of manager will improve them then that's your opinion. Maybe the two he did sign aren't good enough after all but they don't really have any better waiting in the wings either! Every man and his dog knows we need to bin off our full backs but we haven't. I'm sure some would like to think that it's down to the manager that we haven't replaced them. I'm not buying that whatsoever! ״There has been £120m of investment in that back four. You've probably got the best goalkeeper in the world, so from a back-five point of view, you could argue there has been serious investment.״ Gary Neville, 19.8.18 It’s just lazy blaming the owners after defeats. We can’t get all the players we are after. No club does, City included. They have poured money on mediocrity. We had enough quality out there to win the game. We struggle to have a shot on goal. This has nothing to do with CBs It's not lazy blaming the owners. These twats have hired the last two failed managers and possibly soon to be a third. Every man and his dog knows that our back 4 isn't good enough. But we have a CEO making decisions not to back the manager to address this in the summer. How many on here didn't want the Spurs man who is still one of the best available? Instead DickEd goes swanning off to Madrid and dangles 100 million towards Varane and gets sent packing! The idea that you refuse to invest because he's already spent 70 million on CB's is ridiculous! A good job Pep has managed to rein in his spending on his back 4 isn't it? ....Oh wait! Only last week Gary Neville said our defence wasn't good enough! |
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Post by weetomsligaments on Aug 19, 2018 23:40:38 GMT
״There has been £120m of investment in that back four. You've probably got the best goalkeeper in the world, so from a back-five point of view, you could argue there has been serious investment.״ Gary Neville, 19.8.18 It’s just lazy blaming the owners after defeats. We can’t get all the players we are after. No club does, City included. They have poured money on mediocrity. We had enough quality out there to win the game. We struggle to have a shot on goal. This has nothing to do with CBs It's not lazy blaming the owners. These twats have hired the last two failed managers and possibly soon to be a third. Every man and his dog knows that our back 4 isn't good enough. But we have a CEO making decisions not to back the manager to address this in the summer. How many on here didn't want the Spurs man who is still one of the best available? Instead DickEd goes swanning off to Madrid and dangles 100 million towards Varane and gets sent packing! The idea that you refuse to invest because he's already spent 70 million on CB's is ridiculous! A good job Pep has managed to rein in his spending on his back 4 isn't it? ....Oh wait! Only last week Gary Neville said our defence wasn't good enough! At what stage is it Mourinho's job to get more out of the players? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 4:25:07 GMT
״There has been £120m of investment in that back four. You've probably got the best goalkeeper in the world, so from a back-five point of view, you could argue there has been serious investment.״ Gary Neville, 19.8.18 It’s just lazy blaming the owners after defeats. We can’t get all the players we are after. No club does, City included. They have poured money on mediocrity. We had enough quality out there to win the game. We struggle to have a shot on goal. This has nothing to do with CBs It's not lazy blaming the owners. These twats have hired the last two failed managers and possibly soon to be a third. Every man and his dog knows that our back 4 isn't good enough. But we have a CEO making decisions not to back the manager to address this in the summer. How many on here didn't want the Spurs man who is still one of the best available? Instead DickEd goes swanning off to Madrid and dangles 100 million towards Varane and gets sent packing! The idea that you refuse to invest because he's already spent 70 million on CB's is ridiculous! A good job Pep has managed to rein in his spending on his back 4 isn't it? ....Oh wait! Only last week Gary Neville said our defence wasn't good enough! Football has changed for the worse over the last couple of decades, and having owners who are in it for their own ego/money is not unique to United. We don't like it but this is the reality of football these days. Having a voodoo doll in an owners thread where we go after defeats is lazy. Of course they are to blame for the horrible fact that football isn't what it once was.
Fans aren't either. Of course we all wanted Toby. We want new toys all the time. We also wanted Mkhi, and this time last year we mocked the scousers that he had more assists than Coutinho. Three months later people here wished him death for not packing his bags and emptying his locker early enough for our new toy. We all wanted him too, and hailed Ed as he beat the oily neighbours for his signature.
Gary Neville repeated this week that our defense isn't good enough. I only quoted the bits that fit my agenda  . The thing is that Jose gets tons of cash from DickEd and the Glazers for coaching that defense too. What the fuck had Jose done in that respect in over two years, nevermind having any attacking pattern to our play. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 4:34:34 GMT
To be fair it's not just our defence that isnt good enough. Theres no link up play between the back four, middle three and front three either.
Think I saw more sideways and backwards passing in this game than I did in any game under van Gaal.
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