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Post by Paul on Nov 15, 2020 12:03:24 GMT
Morrison fucked his own united career up.
Mason is clearly going through some personal shit, hopefully he's got people around him that can help get him to the other side and shield him from this shit.
Would love nothing more than to see these rags go bankrupt. Quick to build young talent up, even quicker to drop them.
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Post by mightyez on Nov 15, 2020 16:17:58 GMT
rio nailed it when he says who is the contact. The club should not ignore this one, a strongly worded statement needs putting out.
A man's friend took his own life this isn't really the time to stay silent for that reason alone! No on wants to look back and say, 'had we known'!!!
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Post by Stew on Nov 21, 2020 11:39:14 GMT
12th in the Golden Boy award. Which is so preposterous it beggars belief. 5 games Phil Foden and Saka ahead of him.
Absolute joke.
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Post by redcase on Nov 21, 2020 13:49:23 GMT
12th in the Golden Boy award. Which is so preposterous it beggars belief. 5 games Phil Foden and Saka ahead of him. Absolute joke. Travesty.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 21, 2020 17:52:40 GMT
12th in the Golden Boy award. Which is so preposterous it beggars belief. 5 games Phil Foden and Saka ahead of him. Absolute joke. Meaningless talking heads bauble anyway. Genuinely.
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Nov 22, 2020 3:56:40 GMT
So let me get this straight...we should circle ranks around MG because he’s one of ours and a potential superstar/legend/damn good player...(which is totally valid btw), but we shouldn’t around a young manager who is an actual club legend? Both have made mistakes that are indefensible, both deserve better. Both are capable of becoming everything we hope they could become. What’s the difference?
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Post by Sméagol on Nov 22, 2020 9:48:25 GMT
So let me get this straight...we should circle ranks around MG because he’s one of ours and a potential superstar/legend/damn good player...(which is totally valid btw), but we shouldn’t around a young manager who is an actual club legend? Both have made mistakes that are indefensible, both deserve better. Both are capable of becoming everything we hope they could become. What’s the difference? The difference is we don't actually know if Greenwood has done any of those things that were written about him ot it was just a witch hunt. And even if he made some mistakes, he's an 18 year old with a lot of pressure and expectations who just lost a mate because of suicide, not a 45 year old who should really know better.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Nov 22, 2020 10:02:50 GMT
Also, Mason has shown the potential to be as good as anyone in his field. Ole's had big wins but I've never seen anything like that from him.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 22, 2020 10:45:44 GMT
So let me get this straight...we should circle ranks around MG because he’s one of ours and a potential superstar/legend/damn good player...(which is totally valid btw), but we shouldn’t around a young manager who is an actual club legend? Both have made mistakes that are indefensible, both deserve better. Both are capable of becoming everything we hope they could become. What’s the difference? Mason has barely made a single verifiable mistake never mind indefensible ones. And don't say trying to have away trip sex with a model during a pandemic. That's probably not wise but it is also entirely fair that an 18 year old tried getting his willy wet. With a model. Ole, on the other hand, brings the criticism upon himself on a weekly basis.
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Post by Sméagol on Nov 22, 2020 11:25:59 GMT
I actually thought he was talking about Giggs. I don't understand the abuse Ole gets on this board either. He's a poor manager? Probably. But he didn't do anything to deserve this.
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Post by Karma on Nov 22, 2020 11:31:42 GMT
So let me get this straight...we should circle ranks around MG because he’s one of ours and a potential superstar/legend/damn good player...(which is totally valid btw), but we shouldn’t around a young manager who is an actual club legend? Both have made mistakes that are indefensible, both deserve better. Both are capable of becoming everything we hope they could become. What’s the difference? A young manager? He’s 47.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 22, 2020 11:46:13 GMT
I actually thought he was talking about Giggs. I don't understand the abuse Ole gets on this board either. He's a poor manager? Probably. But he didn't do anything to deserve this. Genuinely, what abuse does he get? There are a couple of people who admittedly go in with both feet but the suggestion seems to be it's a constant torrent from most of the board. The feeling I get from the majority of people is exasperation. Or despair.
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Post by Kojak on Nov 22, 2020 12:00:59 GMT
I actually thought he was talking about Giggs. I don't understand the abuse Ole gets on this board either. He's a poor manager? Probably. But he didn't do anything to deserve this. Genuinely, what abuse does he get? There are a couple of people who admittedly go in with both feet but the suggestion seems to be it's a constant torrent from most of the board. The feeling I get from the majority of people is exasperation. Or despair. I think the quantity of posts from the aforementioned people who go in with both feet maybe make it feel tilted towards the abuse he’s mentioned. As you say, it’s probably mainly despair and has been since Moyes got the boot. I imagine if we looked back to when Moyes was in charge, there’d be a big difference between that and what Ole gets. Now That’s What I Call Abuse: Volume One.
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Post by Stew on Nov 22, 2020 12:15:04 GMT
Genuinely, what abuse does he get? There are a couple of people who admittedly go in with both feet but the suggestion seems to be it's a constant torrent from most of the board. The feeling I get from the majority of people is exasperation. Or despair. I think the quantity of posts from the aforementioned people who go in with both feet maybe make it feel tilted towards the abuse he’s mentioned. As you say, it’s probably mainly despair and has been since Moyes got the boot. I imagine if we looked back to when Moyes was in charge, there’d be a big difference between that and what Ole gets. Now That’s What I Call Abuse: Volume One. I agree. I think most of us are pretty respectful to Ole solely because he’s a club legend. Let’s put it this way- his record is about similar to Moyes so if he hadn’t played so well for us he’d be getting the same kind of abuse Moyes did. And being brutally honest he’d deserve it.
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Post by dazjoe on Nov 23, 2020 1:17:56 GMT
I actually thought he was talking about Giggs. I don't understand the abuse Ole gets on this board either. He's a poor manager? Probably. But he didn't do anything to deserve this. Genuinely, what abuse does he get? There are a couple of people who admittedly go in with both feet but the suggestion seems to be it's a constant torrent from most of the board. The feeling I get from the majority of people is exasperation. Or despair. This. I really don't see much abuse, just discussions. The vast majority of the posts I see are calling out that he's not up for the job, that better managers would get more from this group of players, and that he wouldn't be offered any other top job should they become available. None of this is abusing him. There has been the odd post in anger with a "twat" or "cunt" but it is very rare and has been called straight out as unacceptable. And comparing a bloke almost 50 years old, who pretty much lucked his way into the top job in the country, and seems to be making it up as he goes; with a 19 year old kid who has acted like every other 19 year old kid in the country does and has made a stupid decision where a good looking bird is concerned, and now apparently has a bit of a time keeping attitude (again, like every single teenager in the history of the world), is just, well, words fail me.
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