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Post by caino on Apr 30, 2019 8:18:48 GMT
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Post by Karma on Apr 30, 2019 8:36:46 GMT
Nope. Get someone from outside the club who has experience. We have a clueless CEO and a rookie manager . Let’s get someone who knows what they are doing. Ed probably liked the way Rio defended Mike Ashley and thought he might be useful. Idiot. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 30, 2019 10:12:47 GMT
Nope. Get someone from outside the club who has experience. We have a clueless CEO and a rookie manager . Let’s get someone who knows what they are doing. Ed probably liked the way Rio defended Mike Ashley and thought he might be useful. Idiot. That's the dilemma though isn't it? Do you get an experienced DOF from outside the club, he'll know the role better but will he get the club? Or do you get someone with the United DNA and let them grow into the role? It's a tough one tbh, we tried at manager to hire previously successful guys and hope they replicate it here (LVG and Mourinho) which didn't work, if we hire a previously successful DOF does he just try to replicate what he did with a previous club and not fit with the United culture either? We'd really need to know what said DOFs job spec is to say one way or the other. |
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Post by Karma on Apr 30, 2019 10:20:33 GMT
Nope. Get someone from outside the club who has experience. We have a clueless CEO and a rookie manager . Let’s get someone who knows what they are doing. Ed probably liked the way Rio defended Mike Ashley and thought he might be useful. Idiot. That's the dilemma though isn't it? Do you get an experienced DOF from outside the club, he'll know the role better but will he get the club? Or do you get someone with the United DNA and let them grow into the role? It's a tough one tbh, we tried at manager to hire previously successful guys and hope they replicate it here (LVG and Mourinho) which didn't work, if we hire a previously successful DOF does he just try to replicate what he did with a previous club and not fit with the United culture either? We'd really need to know what said DOFs job spec is to say one way or the other. This DNA thing needs to stop seriously. Fergie has gone. We have to move on , we have Ole, Phelan, Butt, Carrick and god knows how many ex players who are ambassadors. I have no issue with a few ex players being around but this is ridiculous. The best man for the job. Maybe Gill should step in and help Ed because he clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing. The one figure from our past I wouldn’t say no to is Carlos Quieroz who was a very good coach for us. I would have had him in over Phelan in the first place. He knows his onions. |
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Post by caino on Apr 30, 2019 10:34:52 GMT
we need a DoF who knows about being a DoF. he can learn the culture. the culture of the club is to win and play youth.
the manager can deal with the youth side. the DoF needs to be bringing in the best players with a contingency plan moving forward.
Id really like Carlos as a head coach to work alongside Ole if Phelan steps up into a directors role which is planned. that way we will have 2 of the best coaches we have had who worked alongside fergie operating in beneficial roles.
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Post by kstandhand on Apr 30, 2019 10:37:15 GMT
I think Rio would be a perfect ambassador for the club & would probably be the perfect man to blow smoke up the arse of a potential sponsor,but DOF no thanks!
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Apr 30, 2019 11:09:53 GMT
Rio would be of use somewhere, I'm sure, but DoF isn't the right role.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Apr 30, 2019 11:16:20 GMT
If we’re going to hire a pundit, I’d rather we go with G Nev. But I’m sure his recent comments haven’t sat well with Ed and the board. I think they’re looking for more the “yes” man type.
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Post by caino on Apr 30, 2019 11:19:20 GMT
If we’re going to hire a pundit, I’d rather we go with G Nev. But I’m sure his recent comments haven’t sat well with Ed and the board. I think they’re looking for more the “yes” man type. I don't think Nev can with his Salford commitments |
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Post by GeniusCantona on Apr 30, 2019 11:23:20 GMT
Well according to Sky, Paul Mitchell is also on the short list. He would definitely be the ideal external appointment.
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Post by caino on Apr 30, 2019 11:59:53 GMT
Well according to Sky, Paul Mitchell is also on the short list. He would definitely be the ideal external appointment. Paul Mitchell would be ideal. knows the club as he's a mancunian and I think (hopefully) a Red. he knows what it takes to be a DoF and is proven in that role. |
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Post by caino on Apr 30, 2019 12:07:21 GMT
Rio Ferdinand has met with Ed Woodward to discuss the former England defender possibly becoming Manchester United's sporting director, Sportsmail can reveal.
Woodward, United's executive vice-chairman, is seriously considering bringing Ferdinand back to the club in a major role.
United owners the Glazer family have been keen to get Ferdinand on board since his retirement four years ago, but personal circumstances made that unworkable. However the timing could now be right.
United are currently restructuring the club and weighing up appointing someone to guide transfer strategy and oversee negotiations while being in tune with the manager.
Woodward has identified Ferdinand as a strong candidate given his United history and subsequent business experience, which includes a clothing company and restaurant.
United have also been impressed with Ferdinand's analytical approach as a BT Sport pundit, with the 40-year-old offering committed opinions that come from the environment which brought such success in Sir Alex Ferguson's era.
Ferdinand enjoyed a glittering career at Old Trafford after becoming Britain's most expensive footballer at £30million in 2002.
He stayed for 12 seasons, becoming captain at the club and winning six Premier League titles, one Champions League, and two League Cups.
He earned 81 England caps, appearing at two World Cups, and is regarded as one of the finest centre-backs in Premier League history.
Ferdinand was a team-mate of United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's between 2002 and 2007.
The Glazers retain a relationship with Ferdinand from his playing days and have tried to bring him back to the club before.
Ferdinand's parental responsibilities made that difficult but Woodward has opened discussions to see if circumstances might now work.
United want to use their rich heritage in a similar way to Ajax, where Edwin Van Der Sar is chief executive officer and Marc Overmars is director of football.
As revealed last week by Sportsmail, Mike Phelan has also held talks with United over the technical director position, which is focussed on maintaining standards at Carrington and leading the academy.
Darren Fletcher's name has been mentioned as another addition in this area too. It is unclear how the final structure will shape up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 12:56:51 GMT
Sheasy is retiring at the end of this season. Should get him in to teach our forwards how to finish.
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Post by Sméagol on Apr 30, 2019 19:26:45 GMT
Manchester United will adopt a transfer committee style approach to recruitment as their former defender, Rio Ferdinand, emerged as the latest candidate under consideration for a senior football role. Ed Woodward, the United executive vice-chairman, has been holding talks with a variety of figures, including Ferdinand, another former player Darren Fletcher, and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s assistant, Mike Phelan, as the club seek improvements to their existing recruitment structure. United plan to appoint their first technical director this summer, but he will not be solely responsible for calling the shots in the transfer market. The plan is for a more collegiate approach, of the kind adopted by rivals Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal, that involves manager Solskjaer and his immediate coaching staff in addition to an incoming technical director and existing figures such as chief scout Jim Lawlor and Marcel Bout, the head of global scouting. United want to avoid a repeat of the situation that developed under Jose Mourinho, Solskjaer’s predecessor, where players were imposed against the recommendations of others, and hope group input and the power of veto will lead to more joined up, smarter thinking and broader agreement on potential recruits. The technical director will be expected to take a longer-term view as the club seek to move away from expensive short-term fixes and scattergun spending and adopt a patient, prudent approach in what is shaping up to be a significant rebuilding process. Solskjaer wants a right back, two midfielders and a right-sided forward this summer, but may face a wait for another centre-half. Fletcher, 35, the former United midfielder who is out of contract at Stoke City at the end of the season, and Ferdinand, 40, a prominent pundit for BT Sport and ambassador for the New Era agency, are among those who have had talks with Woodward. Internal candidates have also been discussed. Phelan is expected to play a prominent role in the revamp and is known to have raised concerns about existing lines of communications and United’s bloated scouting network during contract talks since Solskjaer’s permanent appointment. Solskjaer and Phelan both played for the club, as did first team coach Michael Carrick, and United are keen to encourage more former players to take prominent roles, a model which has proved successful on the continent at clubs such as Ajax, Bayern Munich and Barcelona, as part of a “cultural reset” following Mourinho’s turbulent regime. www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/04/30/manchester-united-consider-rio-ferdinand-forsenior-role-club/amp/?__twitter_impression=true |
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Post by Karma on Apr 30, 2019 20:11:29 GMT
What happens if we appoint them and Ole gets the boot in the next 12 months do they walk with him? Might be awkward? |
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