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Post by bushy1987 on Sept 1, 2019 8:18:46 GMT
That's a stackable record regardless who the manager is If we had 13 points after 16 league games for example, we’d be perilously close to the drop zone. I don't even know what to make of this now, 4 managers now and it's pretty much the same shit week by week season by season, but the first 11 on paper should easily be able to challenge for that 4th spot, ole is starting to make a few mistakes now but those lads on the pitch are not helping him. It's just 1 horrible cycle. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 8:27:45 GMT
We don't even appear to be pressing with that intensity we did in the Chelsea game either anymore. Almost like we've accepted we don't really have the players to do that already. I'd be interested to see how far we've run in the last 3 games.
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Post by bushy1987 on Sept 1, 2019 8:33:28 GMT
We don't even appear to be pressing with that intensity we did in the Chelsea game either anymore. Almost like we've accepted we don't really have the players to do that already. I'd be interested to see how far we've run in the last 3 games. First half against wolves we was very good but its all gone to pot after that we have been fucking dreadfull, we can't string a couple of passes togever, I also think we made a massive mistake in not selling pogba and replacing him, he's been terrible and looks like he couldn't give a shit, and when the 1 player who is supposed to make things tick can't be arsed to make a 3 yard pass with out it getting intercepted we have no chance. Man I would love a player like Carrick in that midfield now |
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Post by Stew on Sept 1, 2019 8:35:15 GMT
We don't even appear to be pressing with that intensity we did in the Chelsea game either anymore. Almost like we've accepted we don't really have the players to do that already. I'd be interested to see how far we've run in the last 3 games. Lingard sets the tone in a lot of ways when it comes to pressing. Unfortunately that’s not enough of a reason to play him. |
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Post by Stew on Sept 1, 2019 8:39:06 GMT
We don't even appear to be pressing with that intensity we did in the Chelsea game either anymore. Almost like we've accepted we don't really have the players to do that already. I'd be interested to see how far we've run in the last 3 games. First half against wolves we was very good but its all gone to pot after that we have been fucking dreadfull, we can't string a couple of passes togever, I also think we made a massive mistake in not selling pogba and replacing him, he's been terrible and looks like he couldn't give a shit, and when the 1 player who is supposed to make things tick can't be arsed to make a 3 yard pass with out it getting intercepted we have no chance. Man I would love a player like Carrick in that midfield now I said it at the time that Wolves was a season-definer despite being so early. Up until half time it looked like we really could be onto something. Lingard gave the ball away straight from the kick off at the restart and we’ve been gash ever since. It was fools gold anyway. The season, last last years, was defined by the summer. We acted like a mid-table club and we’re getting mid-table performances. Our net spends these last two years has been Everton, Watford levels. So it makes sense. The hope is we have some very talented kids and given how the squad has been gutted we’ll have to play them so we will see what we have. And hopefully get kind draws in cups and maybe fluke a win in one of those. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 8:40:51 GMT
We don't even appear to be pressing with that intensity we did in the Chelsea game either anymore. Almost like we've accepted we don't really have the players to do that already. I'd be interested to see how far we've run in the last 3 games. First half against wolves we was very good but its all gone to pot after that we have been fucking dreadfull, we can't string a couple of passes togever, I also think we made a massive mistake in not selling pogba and replacing him, he's been terrible and looks like he couldn't give a shit, and when the 1 player who is supposed to make things tick can't be arsed to make a 3 yard pass with out it getting intercepted we have no chance. Man I would love a player like Carrick in that midfield now Agree on Pogba. I also agree that he should be played further forward but he still shouldn't be stinking the place out as much as he is.
Where do you draw the line with him? If we sign midfielders next summer to play alongside him to allow him to play further forward, what if he's still shite and lacking in commitment? We'll have wasted another season with him.
It's all shit but we still know where the blame needs to be directed. Ole may or may not be good enough but we will never know for sure if he's not backed 100% in the transfer market.
Tried to be positive before the season started as I couldn't be arsed going into the season with a feeling of absolute dread. Hasn't taken long for that to be smashed out of me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 8:47:45 GMT
Having said that. If Arsenal win today, we'll still be ahead of Chelsea and Spurs in the table....
#TopFourIsNailedOn
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Post by Stew on Sept 1, 2019 9:00:36 GMT
Having said that. If Arsenal win today, we'll still be ahead of Chelsea and Spurs in the table.... #TopFourIsNailedOn This was the easy part of our schedule... |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Sept 1, 2019 9:10:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 9:10:56 GMT
Having said that. If Arsenal win today, we'll still be ahead of Chelsea and Spurs in the table.... #TopFourIsNailedOn This was the easy part of our schedule... Who decided that? Chelsea at home and Wolves away is as tricky a first 2 games as anyone had. The last 2 games have been absolute should've wons. I don't think you can class a 2 game run as being a solo part of the schedule.
5 game run from the end of Oct to the beginning of Dec consisting of Norwich, Bournemouth, Brighton, Sheff Utd and Villa looks the easiest run of fixtures. Can't wait for us to have 70% possession in them all and create fuck all.
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Post by Stew on Sept 1, 2019 9:58:23 GMT
This was the easy part of our schedule... Who decided that? Chelsea at home and Wolves away is as tricky a first 2 games as anyone had. The last 2 games have been absolute should've wons. I don't think you can class a 2 game run as being a solo part of the schedule.
5 game run from the end of Oct to the beginning of Dec consisting of Norwich, Bournemouth, Brighton, Sheff Utd and Villa looks the easiest run of fixtures. Can't wait for us to have 70% possession in them all and create fuck all.
I did. Up until the Scouse game at home, I thought we’d have a shot at around 75% of the points available. Wolves away obviously very tricky but a Renter team hamstrung with no new signings, losing their best player and a new manager wasn’t akin to facing their 04/05 team. I thought we’d have 19 or 20 points available out of 24. How wrong I was. Because there is no easy part of our schedule. At all. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 10:05:13 GMT
Who decided that? Chelsea at home and Wolves away is as tricky a first 2 games as anyone had. The last 2 games have been absolute should've wons. I don't think you can class a 2 game run as being a solo part of the schedule.
5 game run from the end of Oct to the beginning of Dec consisting of Norwich, Bournemouth, Brighton, Sheff Utd and Villa looks the easiest run of fixtures. Can't wait for us to have 70% possession in them all and create fuck all.
I did. Up until the Scouse game at home, I thought we’d have a shot at around 75% of the points available. Wolves away obviously very tricky but a Renter team hamstrung with no new signings, losing their best player and a new manager wasn’t akin to facing their 04/05 team. I thought we’d have 19 or 20 points available out of 24. How wrong I was. Because there is no easy part of our schedule. At all. Don't think that run of games is as easy as the one that comes after the scouse game but we're splitting hairs. We should be doing better and you're right, no run is an easy run. Think we're all finding it hard to get used to these type of games no longer being guarantees for us.
Why should we be so surprised that we can't win away to 10 man Southampton? It epitomises this United.
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Post by Stew on Sept 1, 2019 10:11:58 GMT
I did. Up until the Scouse game at home, I thought we’d have a shot at around 75% of the points available. Wolves away obviously very tricky but a Renter team hamstrung with no new signings, losing their best player and a new manager wasn’t akin to facing their 04/05 team. I thought we’d have 19 or 20 points available out of 24. How wrong I was. Because there is no easy part of our schedule. At all. Don't think that run of games is as easy as the one that comes after the scouse game but we're splitting hairs. We should be doing better and you're right, no run is an easy run. Think we're all finding it hard to get used to these type of games no longer being guarantees for us.
Why should we be so surprised that we can't win away to 10 man Southampton? It epitomises this United.
That’s true. The run of form we’re in is helping, if that’s the right word. We haven’t won 2 games in a row for months now, we regularly lose away from home but are capable of putting in a big performance occasionally against the big teams. Bournemouth with a bigger budget basically. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 10:16:45 GMT
Don't think that run of games is as easy as the one that comes after the scouse game but we're splitting hairs. We should be doing better and you're right, no run is an easy run. Think we're all finding it hard to get used to these type of games no longer being guarantees for us.
Why should we be so surprised that we can't win away to 10 man Southampton? It epitomises this United.
That’s true. The run of form we’re in is helping, if that’s the right word. We haven’t won 2 games in a row for months now, we regularly lose away from home but are capable of putting in a big performance occasionally against the big teams. Bournemouth with a bigger budget basically. I think inconsistency will be the theme of the season. I think we'll have more games like Chelsea which give us all false hope again and we'll follow it with a Palace.
The only thing giving me slight hope is that I don't think much of the other teams we're supposed to be challenging. We're all miles behind City and the scouse. Dangerously close to becoming a boring 2 team league.
I suppose this is how it felt for everyone else when it was us and Arsenal dominating every year.
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Post by Bestie on Sept 1, 2019 11:26:31 GMT
Another weekend ruined by the shitshow our club has become.
Wonderful.
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