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Post by johnboy14 on Sept 1, 2019 19:34:38 GMT
First half against wolves we was very good but its all gone to pot after that we have been fucking dreadfull, we can't string a couple of passes togever, I also think we made a massive mistake in not selling pogba and replacing him, he's been terrible and looks like he couldn't give a shit, and when the 1 player who is supposed to make things tick can't be arsed to make a 3 yard pass with out it getting intercepted we have no chance. Man I would love a player like Carrick in that midfield now Agree on Pogba. I also agree that he should be played further forward but he still shouldn't be stinking the place out as much as he is.
Where do you draw the line with him? If we sign midfielders next summer to play alongside him to allow him to play further forward, what if he's still shite and lacking in commitment? We'll have wasted another season with him. It's all shit but we still know where the blame needs to be directed. Ole may or may not be good enough but we will never know for sure if he's not backed 100% in the transfer market.
Tried to be positive before the season started as I couldn't be arsed going into the season with a feeling of absolute dread. Hasn't taken long for that to be smashed out of me.
He's just shite mate, it wouldn't matter if we played him behind the striker or upfront he's hopeless. Pogba makes Carrick look like Xavi or Scholes, there simply not worth comparing. Carrick understood how to play midfield, he understood the importance of work ethic, discipline and the importance of playing it simple and making angles to receive the ball. Everytime I see Pogba play I'm baffled by the things said about him on MOTD or by other players. I just don't see it. |
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Post by Chris on Sept 1, 2019 19:59:18 GMT
Think how fuming fans of other clubs would be if we won the league. Shame there is no hope of it happening and our banter era will simply get worse. If these players gave a fuck, they'd be seriously pissed at what they read about themselves.
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Post by redcase on Sept 1, 2019 20:07:00 GMT
Think how fuming fans of other clubs would be if we won the league. Shame there is no hope of it happening and our banter era will simply get worse. If these players gave a fuck, they'd be seriously pissed at what they read about themselves. They are being paid far too much to have any sort of professional pride. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 20:09:35 GMT
Got to the point where I don't give a fuck who leaves now, including Dave and I'm a huge fan of his. We have enough shit to deal with without worrying about whether current players play the "will they won't they game" with their mega contracts or if "they're happy". Either you want to be at the club or you don't.
Why should the supporters value half of these players when they don't give a fuck about us, if they did they wouldn't half arse it every week.
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Post by Carbon on Sept 1, 2019 22:08:08 GMT
Henderson will be the keeper next season I’d imagine. Save the transfer fee to strengthen other- Sorry, went mad there. Not the bit about Henderson.
Why do we suddenly think that the kids are suddenly the class of 92 again? Seen nothing from any of them to make me think that any of them are world beaters at senior level. Giving the kids a chance when we're actually winning games is one thing but trying to get them to suddenly be game changers is another.
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Post by Stew on Sept 1, 2019 22:10:25 GMT
Henderson will be the keeper next season I’d imagine. Save the transfer fee to strengthen other- Sorry, went mad there. Not the bit about Henderson. Why do we suddenly think that the kids are suddenly the class of 92 again? Seen nothing from any of them to make me think that any of them are world beaters at senior level. Giving the kids a chance when we're actually winning games is one thing but trying to get them to suddenly be game changers is another.
By ‘we’ do you mean us on here or the people at Utd? We don’t because they aren’t in all honesty. They’re talented, Greenwood particularly so but not a once in a generation thing like 92. |
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Post by Carbon on Sept 1, 2019 22:14:10 GMT
Why do we suddenly think that the kids are suddenly the class of 92 again? Seen nothing from any of them to make me think that any of them are world beaters at senior level. Giving the kids a chance when we're actually winning games is one thing but trying to get them to suddenly be game changers is another.
By ‘we’ do you mean us on here or the people at Utd? We don’t because they aren’t in all honesty. They’re talented, Greenwood particularly so but not a once in a generation thing like 92.
I mean us on here, I keep seeing posts where people want y youth player or x youth player when in hte current state of the club we need actual seasoned players on the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 23:07:15 GMT
By ‘we’ do you mean us on here or the people at Utd? We don’t because they aren’t in all honesty. They’re talented, Greenwood particularly so but not a once in a generation thing like 92. I mean us on here, I keep seeing posts where people want y youth player or x youth player when in hte current state of the club we need actual seasoned players on the pitch.
I don't agree with swapping Henderson for De Gea yet but our second biggest problem after Woodward post Ferguson has been overpaid players who contribute fuck all. Look at Dan James having already scored as many as Sanchez. I don't consider De Gea one of them as he was our best player for years but I kinda think we need to purge ourselves of every single one of those over paid under performing players before we can move on as a club. Our league position be damned tbh. We need to completely deconstruct this mess. |
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Post by Carbon on Sept 1, 2019 23:36:49 GMT
I mean us on here, I keep seeing posts where people want y youth player or x youth player when in hte current state of the club we need actual seasoned players on the pitch.
I don't agree with swapping Henderson for De Gea yet but our second biggest problem after Woodward post Ferguson has been overpaid players who contribute fuck all. Look at Dan James having already scored as many as Sanchez. I don't consider De Gea one of them as he was our best player for years but I kinda think we need to purge ourselves of every single one of those over paid under performing players before we can move on as a club. Our league position be damned tbh. We need to completely deconstruct this mess.
Start saving your pennies dude, the only way to do so is for someone to purchase the club.
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Post by Stew on Sept 2, 2019 6:08:48 GMT
I’m not saying I think Henderson should replace De Gea. I’m saying he will.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Sept 2, 2019 9:56:39 GMT
A big club (if they were even in this situation at all) would just go and buy Oblak.
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Post by caino on Sept 2, 2019 10:48:08 GMT
We’re crap. We don’t even look like a team. I wonder what ole is actually doin on the training pitch
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Post by scrowford on Sept 2, 2019 11:06:51 GMT
Not a bad match by McTominay
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Post by JamBritRed on Sept 2, 2019 15:04:56 GMT
It’s actually quite shocking that we have no one who can cross a decent ball. not really, it make perfect sense. we have bought quite a few players capable of scoring from a dead ball situation over the years... Mata, Pogba, Martial, Matic even.... add to that Rashford who could score them also in the beginning. now look at our record scoring direct from a free kick. it would suggest to me that we don't place any emphasis on things like practicing crosses or free kicks. if we are practicing these things we need to fire the coach in charge of because he isn't earning his coin. |
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Post by JamBritRed on Sept 2, 2019 15:57:19 GMT
Think how fuming fans of other clubs would be if we won the league. Shame there is no hope of it happening and our banter era will simply get worse. If these players gave a fuck, they'd be seriously pissed at what they read about themselves. i've listened to that Rio clip a few times and i just cant figure out what he's getting at. Maybe i need to context of the earlier convo, but i just dont get what he means. can anybody help me out, this one seems to me missing me. |
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