vs. Astana (H) (EL) - Thursday 19/09/19 20:00 BST

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I think there's a touch of arrogance about Greenwood which I like. He doesn't look out of place at this level at all. When Rashford burst onto the scene he had the look of a kid who was thinkin "OMG I can't believe this is happening!"

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Just on Chong, as others were saying, I won’t go in on him as he’s only a young guy but every game I’ve seen him featured in he loses possession numerous times for fun.

I think it’s a lack of concentration and maybe trying too hard, could possibly be both.

There’s a reason why Ole picked him, he sees him more than others which is fine but if Chong can eradicate trying to overdo it and keep it simple there’s a player in there. He strikes me as a sound lad.

[Bestie]

Sept 19, 2019 22:45:11 GMT . said:

Sept 19, 2019 21:57:03 GMT @jimmyjojojunior said:

Messi doesn't play CM bro 🤓

My point is/was I think Gomes is better. Pointing to a bunch of stats in a fairly dire game against weak opponents doesn’t change my opinion. You can like Fred, I won’t try to stop you. As I said, I still do t know what to think of him. If ever there was a match designed for him to dominate it was this one. And I don’t think he did. And I don’t think he’s going to be part of the long term plans.

He did though.

[caino]

Gomes just needs to keep playing to get him used to this level of football. some of his touches are superb especially in around the box. he just needs to consistently play and he will get so much better

[Banky]

Sept 20, 2019 7:10:41 GMT . said:

Just on Chong, as others were saying, I won’t go in on him as he’s only a young guy but every game I’ve seen him featured in he loses possession numerous times for fun.

I think it’s a lack of concentration and maybe trying too hard, could possibly be both.

There’s a reason why Ole picked him, he sees him more than others which is fine but if Chong can eradicate trying to overdo it and keep it simple there’s a player in there. He strikes me as a sound lad.

I was at the game last night and I would agree with you that he was trying a bit too hard.

I really like the lad, he's got a good attitude and I think he's better than he showed last night but he looked way off, he looked like a kid playing against blokes and he was shoved off the ball constantly.

He got a great reception when he got subbed which was nice but the poor lad looked devastated. 
The ref made him leave the pitch on the far side and walk around and Chong was apologising to the crowd all the way back to the bench, he knew he'd had a stinker.

Hopefully he leaves him in next week and gives him another go.

[scrowford]

Mason Greenwood & Angel Gomes vs FC Astana

[Stew]

Sept 20, 2019 9:05:10 GMT scrowford said:

Mason Greenwood & Angel Gomes vs FC Astana

You’ve already been asked to post videos just once. Please don’t do this again.

[Rustin Cohle]

www.football365.com/news/f365-says-give-greenwood-more-chances-to-back-up-the-hype

F365 Says: Give Greenwood more chances to back up the hype

SPOILER: Click to show

Mason Greenwood picked an opportune time to prove the Manchester United boss right in his assertion that the 17-year-old is the club’s most natural finisher. Even more so than Marcus Rashford and Anthony Martial: “Mason’s more of a natural finisher than them two,” added Solskjaer before the visit of Astana.

It’s lucky for United that Greenwood possesses that quality but no one else in United’s ranks had it during their Europa League opener. The Red Devils peppered the Kazakhs with 20 shots but only Greenwood’s 73rd-minute strike outwitted Eric in the Astana goal.

This was Greenwood’s night. Everyone at Old Trafford bar 200 or so hardy souls from Kazakhstan came to see the 17-year-old on his first senior start as well as cameo roles for Tatith Chong and Angel Gomes.

Chong on the left and Gomes behind Rashford toiled while Astana defended deep and narrow, with Solskjaer reverting to experience as time whittled away. Jesse Lingard and Juan Mata replaced the young pair for the final quarter of the game – but Greenwood remained on the pitch, reinforcing his status as top of the crop.

The England Under-21 forward rewarded Solskjaer for his faith with a goal that highlighted one of his greatest assets. Few can tell which foot Greenwood prefers – certainly not those among the gutsy Astana defence – and after faking to shoot with the left, the United prospect shifted it on to his right before rolling the ball through Eric’s legs.

It was a finish that showcased the composure, imagination and ruthlessness that has drawn comparisons with Robin van Persie. Normally such talk would be suppressed from within at Old Trafford, but Solskjaer’s bullishness over Greenwood’s class is shared throughout the club. The talk is of not of potential, rather the closest thing to a dead-cert seen in those parts since Ryan Giggs.

Solskjaer’s willingness to talk up Greenwood’s emergence should serve as a warning to Martial and Rashford, the last player to explode through the ranks. United’s No.9 and No.10 both see themselves as the club’s best centre-forward, but neither have yet demonstrated the one-eyed, ruthlessness in front of goal.

Rashford’s inconsistency helped give Greenwood the platform to be the match-winner. Leading the line in Martial’s continued absence, the England striker had a quarter of United’s 20 attempts but in the first half especially, his final touch lacked the necessary quality. Rashford looks so close to becoming a complete forward – but he seems no closer to taking that final step.

Rashford may have to make do with a wide role if upon his return Martial demonstrates the appetite for goals that no one is yet certain he possesses. Solskjaer seems to have Greenwood earmarked for a similar job while he eases the teenager into regular first-team duty, just as Rashford was. But 175 first-team appearances after he burst on the scene, also in the Europa League, has Rashford’s versatility cost him?

The dream scenario for United fans is a team with Rashford and Greenwood both scoring goals. Solskjaer appears to believe he can make it a reality, bit that will only happen if Greenwood is given the regular opportunities to build on the foundation he laid tonight.

[Stew]

I’m pretty sure I started last year’s West Ham thread so I won’t be doing that again! If someone would like the dubious honour.

[redcase]

Sept 20, 2019 4:43:45 GMT Sméagol said:

Sept 20, 2019 4:30:24 GMT @ausred88 said:

For them in private it's fine although he called himself 'daddy'. But to post it for everyone to see? Yeah, gross.

He wasn't the one who posted it though. I find it a bit weird that people care about that video this much. Such a nothing story.

I want to know who posted it online. That's the real knob. Was it his girlfriend? Incredibly thick if it was. It wasn't Mason himself, which is good. Because what him and anyone else do in their private lives is their own and of nobody else's concern. But I do have a bone to pick with whoever did post that video..

[caino]

Sept 20, 2019 10:41:49 GMT Stew said:

I’m pretty sure I started last year’s West Ham thread so I won’t be doing that again! If someone would like the dubious honour.

sure I made the Palace thread so that's an instant ban for me

[johnboy14]

Sept 20, 2019 7:10:41 GMT . said:

Just on Chong, as others were saying, I won’t go in on him as he’s only a young guy but every game I’ve seen him featured in he loses possession numerous times for fun.

I think it’s a lack of concentration and maybe trying too hard, could possibly be both.

There’s a reason why Ole picked him, he sees him more than others which is fine but if Chong can eradicate trying to overdo it and keep it simple there’s a player in there. He strikes me as a sound lad.

Honestly i cannot understand how a professional athlete can function with that fucking haircut. This might sound old fashioned but id have that off. Ive seen bits from Chong and I dont see enough yet to think hes gonna make it at utd.

[RAZ]

Sept 20, 2019 19:59:20 GMT johnboy14 said:

Sept 20, 2019 7:10:41 GMT . said:

Just on Chong, as others were saying, I won’t go in on him as he’s only a young guy but every game I’ve seen him featured in he loses possession numerous times for fun.

I think it’s a lack of concentration and maybe trying too hard, could possibly be both.

There’s a reason why Ole picked him, he sees him more than others which is fine but if Chong can eradicate trying to overdo it and keep it simple there’s a player in there. He strikes me as a sound lad.

Honestly i cannot understand how a professional athlete can function with that fucking haircut. This might sound old fashioned but id have that off. Ive seen bits from Chong and I dont see enough yet to think hes gonna make it at utd.

Since when is a haircut connected to a person's ability in any sports or profession? Are you a new kind of scientist who knows stuff we don't?
Yes you'right it sounds old fashioned, not only that but also inexplicably daft and hilariously dumb.
You might have a pretty boring and uneventful life if that sort of thing concerns you.
Fucking hell, statements like that make me want humanity to fucking vanish from this planet. 

[ScholesEvilTwin]

I have a regular haircut and I'm shit at football.

Thats where I have been going wrong all this time!

[redcase]

Sept 20, 2019 19:59:20 GMT johnboy14 said:

Sept 20, 2019 7:10:41 GMT . said:

Just on Chong, as others were saying, I won’t go in on him as he’s only a young guy but every game I’ve seen him featured in he loses possession numerous times for fun.

I think it’s a lack of concentration and maybe trying too hard, could possibly be both.

There’s a reason why Ole picked him, he sees him more than others which is fine but if Chong can eradicate trying to overdo it and keep it simple there’s a player in there. He strikes me as a sound lad.

Honestly i cannot understand how a professional athlete can function with that fucking haircut. This might sound old fashioned but id have that off. Ive seen bits from Chong and I dont see enough yet to think hes gonna make it at utd.

This fulfils my quota of absurd things I will read today.