vs Burnley 22/01/2020 20:15 KO GMT

[Rustin Cohle]

Jan 23, 2020 9:24:50 GMT ratbag said:

Don't know if it has been mentioned but for anyone who watched this on BT last night...


Fucking Steve Macmanamanamanamanamanaman...how does he get to co-commentate on a United match?

He could barely hide his glee and delight at the shitshow we have become...I wanted to kick the TV in!!!

He was even worse than usual.

[Rustin Cohle]

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www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/manchester-united-fans-direct-fury-at-glazers-lsqq5hs9k

Manchester United fans direct fury at Glazers

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Thousands of Manchester United supporters turned their anger towards their club’s owners and Ed Woodward last night during a humiliating 2-0 loss to Burnley.

Chants of “We want the Glazers out” resounded from the stands, and fans headed for the exits long before the final whistle as United’s hopes of a top-four finish took another battering.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s side were booed off at the end of each half as fans saw their side lose to Burnley at Old Trafford for the first time in 58 years.

But it was the American owners the Glazers and the executive vice-chairman Woodward who were the focus of the most vitriolic reaction from the crowd. And that mood was reflected by club legend Rio Ferdinand. “In the 84th minute I saw people get up and go,” he said. “Seeing people leave with disdain on their face, it is an embarrassment. The downward spiral in seven years has been remarkable. I have played with Ole, he is an ex team-mate of mine but the results have not been good enough. He has had some key players get injured, but with the big amount of money spent on this squad you would expect more in reserve.”

Solskjaer was left to face the inquisition that followed a result that leaves United on six points fewer than David Moyes had at the same stage of his solitary season in charge of the club.

And he admitted that he and his playing staff shared the fans’ disillusion at the club’s predicament.

“At the end you do feel disillusioned, because maybe they do,” he said. “But for us we’ve got to stick to our values and beliefs. It’s no use feeling sorry for yourself. Go out there, same commitment, get ready for Sunday.”

With Marcus Rashford out for at least two months, the United manager again stressed the need for new recruits in the current transfer window although he conceded that any incomings will be part of a larger “clear-out” at the club.



“I understand you were talking about that and that is always going to be the talk at the moment because we’ve started a clear-out and get-players-in job and now is the transfer window,” he said.

“So I’m going to be answering these questions until it is closed. We are working on things.

“That’s the thing with football, it’s dynamic, it’s always players who can surprise you in a good and bad way.

“It’s up to the players to understand we’re representing and privileged to represent the best club in the world, a duty every single day on and off pitch. I can’t give another answer.”

Solskjaer, however, also called for fans to show their support for the team rather than focusing on criticisms of supper management.

“I can understand supporters are disappointed but we just need to make sure we try to help the players and the club,” he said.

“I think today the players hear the fans when they support them and that’s helped them, so keep sticking at that.”

One player unlikely to be arriving at Old Trafford is Bruno Fernandes after his agent, Jorge Mendes, admitted that other clubs are interested in signing the Sporting Lisbon midfielder. With a little over a week left until the transfer window closes, The Times understands that United and Sporting are still some way apart in their valuation of the 25-year-old.

United are unwilling to pay the £68 million that Sporting want for the Portugal international and Mendes admitted the transfer may not happen.

“I don’t know [if the transfer will go through],” Mendes, 54, said. “If he doesn’t leave now, he will leave for sure in the summer because Sporting have already spoken with other clubs.”

Solskjaer is in need of reinforcements in midfield because of injuries to Paul Pogba and Scott McTominay. United are in talks with Birmingham City over Jude Bellingham, the 16-year-old midfielder, although he is likely to be loaned back to the Sky Bet Championship club for the rest of the season.

[king nothing]

Jan 23, 2020 9:24:50 GMT ratbag said:

Don't know if it has been mentioned but for anyone who watched this on BT last night...


Fucking Steve Macmanamanamanamanamanaman...how does he get to co-commentate on a United match?

He could barely hide his glee and delight at the shitshow we have become...I wanted to kick the TV in!!!

I was thinking exactly this last night. He couldn't contain his glee. If that was Neville doing that, the rats would be up in arms.

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Jan 23, 2020 10:14:39 GMT Kojak said:

I’d like to think last night would be a turning point given how bad it was and the crowd vocally turning on the owners.

The commentators never once mentioned the fans turning on the owners last night. The most that was said was “strange atmosphere”. This will all rumble on as normal. Some briefings will be made to the press etc.

Well, in fairness to the fans last night 'Stand Up if You Hate Glazers' really got going after Burnley scored their second.

There were other anti- hierarchy chants, sporadic but they were heard.

As I said a couple of pages back, it didn't kick off last night but there was a definite air of mutiny within the crowd, especially after Burnley's second.

Don't know what the next home game is at Old Trafford but it wouldn't surprise me if it really got inflammatory in the ground.

[Bestie]

Jan 23, 2020 10:29:17 GMT king nothing said:

Jan 23, 2020 9:24:50 GMT ratbag said:

Don't know if it has been mentioned but for anyone who watched this on BT last night...


Fucking Steve Macmanamanamanamanamanaman...how does he get to co-commentate on a United match?

He could barely hide his glee and delight at the shitshow we have become...I wanted to kick the TV in!!!

I was thinking exactly this last night. He couldn't contain his glee. If that was Neville doing that, the rats would be up in arms.

Neville wouldn't be be doing that. He's 'impartial' to a fucking fault now. Company man.

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Jan 23, 2020 6:42:37 GMT redcase said:

Jan 23, 2020 6:10:23 GMT @redpilgrim said:

Taking last night's in isolation (plenty of players missing), SAF could not have got much more from that set

What the fuck are you on about? Are you honestly devaluing the greatest manager in association football history just so your narrative can work? Fuck me sideways.

Let's not even begin to talk about what Fergie could or could not do with this club, because the only thing that needs to be looked at is what he did with this club.

Ole has shit players, we agree, but he is also a very poor coach. By poor I mean really poor. The man does not have a clue, no football identity whatsoever.

I do not know what narrative you are talking about. You're so furious that you missed what I actually wrote, which I have now bolded for you. Last night's match squad was worse than a midtable team's average squad, and it got a midtable team's result. They win some and lose some against their fellow shit teams.

[SoccerFan1]

Jan 23, 2020 3:12:13 GMT redcase said:

Jan 23, 2020 1:41:34 GMT SoccerFan1 said:

Embarrassing how many fans left early today. Our support is trash.

Lol what .

They shouldn't have fucking turned up in the first place.

Would agree if the thought process is "We'll only stay or make noise if we're winning"

[GeniusCantona]

Jan 23, 2020 13:04:07 GMT SoccerFan1 said:

Jan 23, 2020 3:12:13 GMT redcase said:

Lol what .

They shouldn't have fucking turned up in the first place.

Would agree if the thought process is "We'll only stay or make noise if we're winning"

Seems like you clearly missed the anti-Glazer chants and noise being made in the first half. Empty seats at the end of the game sends a message to our owners of the supporter anger and discontent.

[SoccerFan1]

Jan 23, 2020 13:23:44 GMT GeniusCantona said:

Empty seats at the end of the game sends a message to our owners of the supporter anger and discontent.

I disagree. I'd be on your side if folks were leaving in middle of a game not decided or that we were winning. It's an incredibly CONVENIENT "protest" to leave early when we're losing at home to Burnley.

Especially annoying because of the stigma (possibly US only!) that United fans only support because they've been successful. Last night seems to perpetuate that. No team is entitled to success.

[GeniusCantona]

Jan 23, 2020 13:47:55 GMT SoccerFan1 said:

Jan 23, 2020 13:23:44 GMT GeniusCantona said:

Empty seats at the end of the game sends a message to our owners of the supporter anger and discontent.

I disagree. I'd be on your side if folks were leaving in middle of a game not decided or that we were winning. It's an incredibly CONVENIENT "protest" to leave early when we're losing at home to Burnley.

Especially annoying because of the stigma (possibly US only!) that United fans only support because they've been successful. Last night seems to perpetuate that. No team is entitled to success.

Then I think you’ve completely misread the feeling of United supporters. A lot can accept the cycles in football and not winning every year but it’s the lack of hope and direction, which are the problems. Most fans feel apathy because we have owners who are not committed to putting us back on track. Not sure what you’re trying to prove but your argument and take is quite frankly ridiculous.

[SoccerFan1]

I don't know how you can say the owners are not committed when they've spent 80 million on Maguire.

If you don't have faith in Ole to restore the team, that's fair. If you think Woodward and Co. have been in too long, that's fair. But empty seats at end of a Burnley loss makes fans look worse than owners, IMO.

[GeniusCantona]

Jan 23, 2020 15:01:56 GMT SoccerFan1 said:

I don't know how you can say the owners are not committed when they've spent 80 million on Maguire.

If you don't have faith in Ole to restore the team, that's fair. If you think Woodward and Co. have been in too long, that's fair. But empty seats at end of a Burnley loss makes fans look worse than owners, IMO.

Music to the Glazers ears...

[SoccerFan1]

Organize a protest where folks walk out of the City match before the half. You could actually call that a PROTEST rather than "Hey, we're losing- I'm going to do something more worth my time"

I guess I just don't expect much more of owners than to be willing to pay for improvements in squad/club infrastructure and hire competent people below them. It sounds like you're most upset that the latter isn't being done.

[redcase]

Jan 23, 2020 13:04:07 GMT SoccerFan1 said:

Jan 23, 2020 3:12:13 GMT redcase said:

Lol what .

They shouldn't have fucking turned up in the first place.

Would agree if the thought process is "We'll only stay or make noise if we're winning"

What other sports teams do you follow? Genuinely curious.

[Tatty]

Jan 23, 2020 15:01:56 GMT SoccerFan1 said:

I don't know how you can say the owners are not committed when they've spent 80 million on Maguire.

If you don't have faith in Ole to restore the team, that's fair. If you think Woodward and Co. have been in too long, that's fair. But empty seats at end of a Burnley loss makes fans look worse than owners, IMO.

They've literally taken £1 BILLION out of the club to line their own pockets and prop up their failing businesses. I wish death upon them all.