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Post by Reduntildeath on Oct 8, 2020 18:17:20 GMT
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Post by dazjoe on Oct 8, 2020 19:54:30 GMT
Romero had a price and it wasn’t meant, surely we shouldn’t be expected to give him away for far less than his value? Arsenal sold Martinez for reportedly 20 million we wanted 8-10 for Romero supposedly and I think that figure is decent for his quality. If someone offered that and we said no then that’s where I’d say we are out of order. This. I don't get the "If anyone deserves better it's him" rhetoric. Why? Why does he deserve such better treatment than anyone else? He came here on a free after playing only 20 games in the last 2 years for Sampdoria and Monaco (hardly global heavyweights). He knew fine well he was coming purely as back up and would not be getting game time here, but came anyway. He still played a lot more than most reserve 'keepers do, playing 61 games over 5 years. Yes he did well every time called upon but United didn't 'have" to play him in European finals and the like, he can count himself pretty lucky to get that game time, again, generally the number 1 plays those games if available. But because he agreed to come here as a reserve, got quite a fair bit of game time and paid very handsomely for it, suddenly we should let him go for nothing? The players who deserve better are the ones who stick with the clubs during thick and thin, Robson springs to mind as a player who stayed when the best of British talent was going to Europe in the 80's. He deserved the club to say "After all you've done, we'll not stand in your way". Romero has done better from United then United have from Romero, he can go when someone pays the asking price, like anyone else.
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Post by RAZ on Oct 9, 2020 5:04:54 GMT
Romero had a price and it wasn’t meant, surely we shouldn’t be expected to give him away for far less than his value? Arsenal sold Martinez for reportedly 20 million we wanted 8-10 for Romero supposedly and I think that figure is decent for his quality. If someone offered that and we said no then that’s where I’d say we are out of order. This. I don't get the "If anyone deserves better it's him" rhetoric. Why? Why does he deserve such better treatment than anyone else? He came here on a free after playing only 20 games in the last 2 years for Sampdoria and Monaco (hardly global heavyweights). He knew fine well he was coming purely as back up and would not be getting game time here, but came anyway. He still played a lot more than most reserve 'keepers do, playing 61 games over 5 years. Yes he did well every time called upon but United didn't 'have" to play him in European finals and the like, he can count himself pretty lucky to get that game time, again, generally the number 1 plays those games if available. But because he agreed to come here as a reserve, got quite a fair bit of game time and paid very handsomely for it, suddenly we should let him go for nothing? The players who deserve better are the ones who stick with the clubs during thick and thin, Robson springs to mind as a player who stayed when the best of British talent was going to Europe in the 80's. He deserved the club to say "After all you've done, we'll not stand in your way". Romero has done better from United then United have from Romero, he can go when someone pays the asking price, like anyone else. the players who deserve better are the ones who stick with the club through thick and thin? like lingard, jones etc?
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Post by kstandhand on Oct 9, 2020 5:55:43 GMT
Google EBITA Man United and shudder! In any other industry there would be serious questions being asked about the people responsible & way the financial affairs are being conducted within a company that should be so financially strong.
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Post by Tatty on Oct 9, 2020 7:18:37 GMT
This. I don't get the "If anyone deserves better it's him" rhetoric. Why? Why does he deserve such better treatment than anyone else? He came here on a free after playing only 20 games in the last 2 years for Sampdoria and Monaco (hardly global heavyweights). He knew fine well he was coming purely as back up and would not be getting game time here, but came anyway. He still played a lot more than most reserve 'keepers do, playing 61 games over 5 years. Yes he did well every time called upon but United didn't 'have" to play him in European finals and the like, he can count himself pretty lucky to get that game time, again, generally the number 1 plays those games if available. But because he agreed to come here as a reserve, got quite a fair bit of game time and paid very handsomely for it, suddenly we should let him go for nothing? The players who deserve better are the ones who stick with the clubs during thick and thin, Robson springs to mind as a player who stayed when the best of British talent was going to Europe in the 80's. He deserved the club to say "After all you've done, we'll not stand in your way". Romero has done better from United then United have from Romero, he can go when someone pays the asking price, like anyone else. the players who deserve better are the ones who stick with the club through thick and thin? like lingard, jones etc? That's not what was meant, and you know that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 7:34:46 GMT
Don’t think we owe him anything and I’ve even questioned how highly people rate him in the past but this is now our 3rd choice keeper. That in itself lowers his valuation.
Just think this is emblematic of our problems. What other club is in the headlines for not letting their 3rd choice keeper leave, for financial reasons?
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Post by alwaysUnited on Oct 9, 2020 7:52:41 GMT
Romero had a price and it wasn’t meant, surely we shouldn’t be expected to give him away for far less than his value? Arsenal sold Martinez for reportedly 20 million we wanted 8-10 for Romero supposedly and I think that figure is decent for his quality. If someone offered that and we said no then that’s where I’d say we are out of order. This. I don't get the "If anyone deserves better it's him" rhetoric. Why? Why does he deserve such better treatment than anyone else? He came here on a free after playing only 20 games in the last 2 years for Sampdoria and Monaco (hardly global heavyweights). He knew fine well he was coming purely as back up and would not be getting game time here, but came anyway. He still played a lot more than most reserve 'keepers do, playing 61 games over 5 years. Yes he did well every time called upon but United didn't 'have" to play him in European finals and the like, he can count himself pretty lucky to get that game time, again, generally the number 1 plays those games if available. But because he agreed to come here as a reserve, got quite a fair bit of game time and paid very handsomely for it, suddenly we should let him go for nothing? The players who deserve better are the ones who stick with the clubs during thick and thin, Robson springs to mind as a player who stayed when the best of British talent was going to Europe in the 80's. He deserved the club to say "After all you've done, we'll not stand in your way". Romero has done better from United then United have from Romero, he can go when someone pays the asking price, like anyone else. I think its more of an issue of us (again) letting players who are not needed hang around rather than getting rid. Or we can again piss about , upset the player , upset the buying clubs , keep paying the salary and let him leave for even less than his current valuation or as free agent
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Post by kstandhand on Oct 9, 2020 9:31:46 GMT
Further briefs this morning,someone's talking....
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Post by Bestie on Oct 9, 2020 10:08:56 GMT
Sorry, not following the rationale behind this 'Fuck Romero' fad. Nobody forced the club to give him £ 70,000 a week to be a backup. He didn't strongarm the club into giving him more games than other backups usually get. He has been an entirely dependable, capable, second to De Gea throughout his United career. I don't remember ever seeing stories about him being unsettled or unprofessional in any way.
I think most of us, at the times, felt he was a little harshly done by to miss out on finals/semi-finals he helped us get to but, again, I've never seen him sulking. Ole even specifically praised his professionalism after Sevilla.
Romero was signed to be first backup goalkeeper to clearly first choice De Gea. He's now clearly second backup to De Gea and Henderson. Plenty of us reckon he could probably be a starter elsewhere. It is a bit shit of the club to now demand a prohibitive fee to let him go get football.
Also, is Lee Grant still here??
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Post by kstandhand on Oct 9, 2020 10:43:05 GMT
Sorry, not following the rationale behind this 'Fuck Romero' fad. Nobody forced the club to give him £ 70,000 a week to be a backup. He didn't strongarm the club into giving him more games than other backups usually get. He has been an entirely dependable, capable, second to De Gea throughout his United career. I don't remember ever seeing stories about him being unsettled or unprofessional in any way. I think most of us, at the times, felt he was a little harshly done by to miss out on finals/semi-finals he helped us get to but, again, I've never seen him sulking. Ole even specifically praised his professionalism after Sevilla. Romero was signed to be first backup goalkeeper to clearly first choice De Gea. He's now clearly second backup to De Gea and Henderson. Plenty of us reckon he could probably be a starter elsewhere. It is a bit shit of the club to now demand a prohibitive fee to let him go get football. Also, is Lee Grant still here?? Should anyone be surprised how poorly Romero is being treated by Woodward..Woodward is consistently what he is, a cunt that does not understand football.
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Post by Kojak on Oct 9, 2020 22:46:43 GMT
Sorry, not following the rationale behind this 'Fuck Romero' fad. Nobody forced the club to give him £ 70,000 a week to be a backup. He didn't strongarm the club into giving him more games than other backups usually get. He has been an entirely dependable, capable, second to De Gea throughout his United career. I don't remember ever seeing stories about him being unsettled or unprofessional in any way. I think most of us, at the times, felt he was a little harshly done by to miss out on finals/semi-finals he helped us get to but, again, I've never seen him sulking. Ole even specifically praised his professionalism after Sevilla. Romero was signed to be first backup goalkeeper to clearly first choice De Gea. He's now clearly second backup to De Gea and Henderson. Plenty of us reckon he could probably be a starter elsewhere. It is a bit shit of the club to now demand a prohibitive fee to let him go get football. Also, is Lee Grant still here?? Should anyone be surprised how poorly Romero is being treated by Woodward..Woodward is consistently what he is, a cunt that does not understand football. Another consequence of the way we do business is we’re not going to have many friends left within football when it’s all said and done.
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Post by dazjoe on Oct 9, 2020 23:22:19 GMT
Sorry, not following the rationale behind this 'Fuck Romero' fad. Nobody forced the club to give him £ 70,000 a week to be a backup. He didn't strongarm the club into giving him more games than other backups usually get. He has been an entirely dependable, capable, second to De Gea throughout his United career. I don't remember ever seeing stories about him being unsettled or unprofessional in any way. I think most of us, at the times, felt he was a little harshly done by to miss out on finals/semi-finals he helped us get to but, again, I've never seen him sulking. Ole even specifically praised his professionalism after Sevilla. Romero was signed to be first backup goalkeeper to clearly first choice De Gea. He's now clearly second backup to De Gea and Henderson. Plenty of us reckon he could probably be a starter elsewhere. It is a bit shit of the club to now demand a prohibitive fee to let him go get football. Also, is Lee Grant still here?? I certainly don't mean to come across like I was saying Fuck Romero. I like him as a 'keeper and agree, he's never rocked the boat or acted Billy Big Time. My point with him was basically that whilst he's done well enough with United, this doesn't mean we should simply accept whatever offer is on the table for him and let some other club benefit, when do other clubs ever do us a favour? If anyone had bid close to the asking price then fair enough, just let him go, we'll make the money up by saving on wages if it's purely financial reasons anyway. But if not, and the bids are for stupidly low prices? Then no, sorry Everton (or whoever) you're not getting a great bargain just because you hope United feel an obligation to let a player go.
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Post by viking22 on Oct 10, 2020 13:22:34 GMT
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Post by alwaysUnited on Oct 10, 2020 14:03:59 GMT
Sorry, not following the rationale behind this 'Fuck Romero' fad. Nobody forced the club to give him £ 70,000 a week to be a backup. He didn't strongarm the club into giving him more games than other backups usually get. He has been an entirely dependable, capable, second to De Gea throughout his United career. I don't remember ever seeing stories about him being unsettled or unprofessional in any way. I think most of us, at the times, felt he was a little harshly done by to miss out on finals/semi-finals he helped us get to but, again, I've never seen him sulking. Ole even specifically praised his professionalism after Sevilla. Romero was signed to be first backup goalkeeper to clearly first choice De Gea. He's now clearly second backup to De Gea and Henderson. Plenty of us reckon he could probably be a starter elsewhere. It is a bit shit of the club to now demand a prohibitive fee to let him go get football. Also, is Lee Grant still here?? Should anyone be surprised how poorly Romero is being treated by Woodward..Woodward is consistently what he is, a cunt that does not understand football. Also , remember how he treated LVG , the way his sacking was handled was also a disgrace.
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Post by thesheepdog on Oct 10, 2020 20:18:44 GMT
The club just doesn't have any class anymore massive reputation rebuild required
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