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Post by Stew on Dec 2, 2020 22:32:57 GMT
Never mind captain. Make him player manager that is damming for the manager. ole is lucky that all those above him know fuck all about football Could Bruno be player-manager? |
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Post by Chris on Dec 2, 2020 22:34:26 GMT
Captain hindsight gif anyone?
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Post by Stretty on Dec 2, 2020 22:38:26 GMT
that is damming for the manager. ole is lucky that all those above him know fuck all about football Could Bruno be player-manager? not really good players don’t necessarily make good managers. |
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Post by Paul on Dec 2, 2020 22:40:28 GMT
Captain hindsight gif anyone? At least he's not making excuses and holding his hands up, not that it's worth much after the fact. |
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Post by Stretty on Dec 2, 2020 22:42:45 GMT
Captain hindsight gif anyone? At least he's not making excuses and holding his hands up, not that it's worth much after the fact. he could have logged on to any Manchester Utd forum at half-time for advice on in game management |
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Post by dazjoe on Dec 2, 2020 22:44:57 GMT
Captain hindsight gif anyone? THEN WHY NOT FUCKING DO IT THEN??!! Jesus, I'd understand if we were down to the bare bones and had literally no other midfielder on the bench, but Matic, VDB and Pogba were sitting there. Mata could have went to a 10 and Fernandes dropped deeper. Bailly goes into a back 3, to give us a 3 - 4 -3, literally anything other than "Hey, you know the bloke who is OBVIOUSLY about to be sent off? Do we sub him off now? Nah, fuck it" |
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Post by Chris on Dec 2, 2020 22:45:00 GMT
Captain hindsight gif anyone? At least he's not making excuses and holding his hands up, not that it's worth much after the fact. I couldn't give a fuck after the game. Even everyone on here was saying he had to come off at HT. Was obvious. |
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Post by Chris on Dec 2, 2020 22:52:09 GMT
What i also don't get about Fred staying on is the bench options. It's not like our midfield is full of injuries. Much better players than fucking Fred are on the bench. Bring any of them on in his place. I don't even mind Fred, but our best football last season came when he was on the bench alongside McT. If we want to win titles, neither Fred or McT even start games, never mind keeping them on the pitch.
Fucking pissed off badly tonight.
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Post by dazjoe on Dec 2, 2020 22:58:34 GMT
What i also don't get about Fred staying on is the bench options. It's not like our midfield is full of injuries. Much better players than fucking Fred are on the bench. Bring any of them on in his place. I don't even mind Fred, but our best football last season came when he was on the bench alongside McT. If we want to win titles, neither Fred or McT even start games, never mind keeping them on the pitch. Fucking pissed off badly tonight. Throw in the fact that Fred's main job in the team is to get in the faces of the opposition, put them off their game, be physical. If any player on the pitch is on a serious tightrope when on a booking, it's that type of player! Bloody hell, soon as that yellow was in the ref's hand, a sub should have been stripping off. Still furious and gobsmacked he just sat back and let the sending off happen. |
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Dec 3, 2020 0:02:05 GMT
So, let me get this straight. Ole set us up and completely battered last seasons finalists but he’s this that and the other because he didn’t take Fred off at HT? Are people overlooking the fact that it was as poor a sending off as Nani’s vs Madrid? Or are you suggesting Ole should’ve known that Fred wouldn’t commit a foul but still be yellow carded? What about criticizing Fred for almost getting sent off in the first place? Or Martial and the rest of the forwards for missing umpteen chances (which has happened on here but as a caveat to the Ole’s fault jab.)
And to suggest that bc RoM was screaming for Fred to be taken off, we’re some sort of soothsayers is quite laughable considering some of the utter tripe we post on here that in fact does not come true.
I’m pissed bc we battered them and couldn’t take our chances, and usually when you do that in Europe against a good side, you get sucker punched. Which we did. Had we taken chances nothing Fred did after it was 3-2 would’ve mattered.
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Post by redcase on Dec 3, 2020 4:03:55 GMT
So, let me get this straight. Ole set us up and completely battered last seasons finalists but he’s this that and the other because he didn’t take Fred off at HT? Are people overlooking the fact that it was as poor a sending off as Nani’s vs Madrid? Or are you suggesting Ole should’ve known that Fred wouldn’t commit a foul but still be yellow carded? What about criticizing Fred for almost getting sent off in the first place? Or Martial and the rest of the forwards for missing umpteen chances (which has happened on here but as a caveat to the Ole’s fault jab.) And to suggest that bc RoM was screaming for Fred to be taken off, we’re some sort of soothsayers is quite laughable considering some of the utter tripe we post on here that in fact does not come true. I’m pissed bc we battered them and couldn’t take our chances, and usually when you do that in Europe against a good side, you get sucker punched. Which we did. Had we taken chances nothing Fred did after it was 3-2 would’ve mattered. Why are you always here to defend him? Everybody criticized Fred, everybody laid in on Martial. Have a look at the comments in the last 15 pages. The players received lot of stick. But the manager was absolutely stupid to not see what was coming. Every PSG player was trying to get Fred sent off and he should have been subbed off at HT that's rudimentary. |
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Post by Paul on Dec 3, 2020 5:24:33 GMT
At least he's not making excuses and holding his hands up, not that it's worth much after the fact. I couldn't give a fuck after the game. Even everyone on here was saying he had to come off at HT. Was obvious. Thats what I mean. It means nothing admitting it afterwards. Think everyone watching it could see it was going to happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 5:37:58 GMT
The number of times we see a player get a yellow, and then we scream for that player to be taken off after his next foul only for the said player to complete the full 90... Ole took a risk, which backfired. He admitted it. I'd hate having a manager who didn't take risks. Same goes for the players.
We played very well in large parts last night. Better than we did for most of the Leipzig game, in my opinion.
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Post by redcase on Dec 3, 2020 5:42:23 GMT
The number of times we see a player get a yellow, and then we scream for that player to be taken off after his next foul only for the said player to complete the full 90... Ole took a risk, which backfired. He admitted it. I'd hate having a manager who didn't take risks. Same goes for the players. We played very well in large parts last night. Better than we did for most of the Leipzig game, in my opinion.
What are you on about? That's not a risk any manager worth his salt should be taking. That's a blindingly stupid risk. A good risk is playing only 1 defensive midfielder against a free flowing attacking team. That's a good risk because you're going after them. Keeping a man on the pitch who's lucky to be there in the first place while PSG are frothing at the mouth to get him sent off is utter fucking stupidity and there's no other way of looking at it. |
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Post by dazjoe on Dec 3, 2020 6:03:56 GMT
The number of times we see a player get a yellow, and then we scream for that player to be taken off after his next foul only for the said player to complete the full 90... Ole took a risk, which backfired. He admitted it. I'd hate having a manager who didn't take risks. Same goes for the players. We played very well in large parts last night. Better than we did for most of the Leipzig game, in my opinion.
What are you on about? That's not a risk any manager worth his salt should be taking. That's a blindingly stupid risk. A good risk is playing only 1 defensive midfielder against a free flowing attacking team. That's a good risk because you're going after them. Keeping a man on the pitch who's lucky to be there in the first place while PSG are frothing at the mouth to get him sent off is utter fucking stupidity and there's no other way of looking at it. Yup. No one is saying sub any player who gets booked, but when they play the role Fred does, was unbelievably lucky not to get sent off in the first place (regardless of the dive by the letter of the law Fred should 100% have gone, we've all seen countless players sent off for that), so very likely in the refs mind that he may have got it wrong and would be looking for any excuse to send him off, and is playing a team full of con men, cheats, divers and wankers, who you know fine damn well will now be looking to make the most of any touch from Fred to get him off? Then you bloody well sub that man as quick as you can. Not doing so is shit management, absolutely as simple as that. I'm fine with people wanting to defend Ole but there's times honesty needs to take over. He seriously fucked up, trying to deny it makes you look stupid. |
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