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Post by Bestie on May 27, 2021 7:38:10 GMT
Yes. But as I said, don’t let it blind us to the bigger picture. (Which I don’t think you are doing) Also, sometimes it’s best to keep your mouth shut. If you had thought about changing the keeper but didn’t, I’m really not sure I’d be telling anyone about it. Im fed up already hearing about his refusal to sub keepers, its ridiculous considering the mountain of other mistakes he made. I would agree except Ole has seemingly decided to go on the wind up. 'Thinking about' changing the goalkeeper because you are aware of the respective saves records but then not having the balls to actually change is quite damning. |
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Post by Stew on May 27, 2021 7:40:14 GMT
Conte.
Zidane
Allegri.
All of these guys are proven winners at the highest level. All of them are currently available. None of whom will be our manager.
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Post by thesheepdog on May 27, 2021 7:40:15 GMT
I honestly thought when Fergie went we would be OK. At the time my Liverpool supporting mate said do you think you will ever win the champions league again in your lifetime. I fell about laughing, I'm starting to think he was right.
Hope the protests continue
Glazers out
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Post by DoctorHver on May 27, 2021 7:52:58 GMT
Fred didn't start so hardly the reason United lost, as for Maguire, what were his injuries? I didn't see anything about them before the game if they were minimal why didn't he start? United are not obligated to preserve their players for the national teams. Delete this you’re embarrassing yourself. how so? I didn't pay much attention to why Maguire didn't start and it wasn't exactly mentioned in the live-broadcast I watched. |
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Post by anti_social on May 27, 2021 7:58:19 GMT
Still utterly fuming.
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Post by Stew on May 27, 2021 8:07:22 GMT
Delete this you’re embarrassing yourself. how so? I didn't pay much attention to why Maguire didn't start and it wasn't exactly mentioned in the live-broadcast I watched. It was literally one of the biggest stories in the lead up to the game. Virtually impossible to miss. |
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Post by alt on May 27, 2021 8:09:57 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for DDG, as folk have already said, a few years ago for me he was the best in the world. His shot-stopping and handling especially were simply sublime, now I have very little confidence in him and it's not just a case of being out of form.
That said, he takes no blame for last night, that rests solely with fucking Ole who shouldn't be managing in the PL, never mind a club that is meant to be competing. 90 minutes without a single sub after that performance, it's just another example that highlights how completely and utterly clueless he is.
Bring on next season where it'll even be more evident and it finally reaches the point where he's fucked off for good.
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Post by Kojak on May 27, 2021 8:23:38 GMT
Delete this you’re embarrassing yourself. how so? I didn't pay much attention to why Maguire didn't start and it wasn't exactly mentioned in the live-broadcast I watched. Are you twelve years old? |
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Post by Kojak on May 27, 2021 8:25:55 GMT
Maybe worth noting that Ole said after the game that the season hasn’t been a success and acknowledged that “when you lose a final, there are things you have not done right”.
Not that it’s any comfort when those things seemed to blatantly obvious to everyone watching. I mean, making a sub is the basics really isn’t it.
The Fred change was one of the deadest substitutions ever made.
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Post by DoctorHver on May 27, 2021 8:27:13 GMT
I honestly thought when Fergie went we would be OK. At the time my Liverpool supporting mate said do you think you will ever win the champions league again in your lifetime. I fell about laughing, I'm starting to think he was right. Hope the protests continue Glazers out He's wrong future is not our to see, United could well end up fluking the CL next season with bit of luck thats the nature of cups. Beside the fact that they haven'T won truth European Cup since 1984. Their wins in 2005 and 2019 never came at the back of winning the EFL/EPL in the season before, the way it ought to be. Bascily they should have lifted the trophy we lost yesterday in both of those years, instead of ole big ears, and far as im conerened UEFA doesn't have much of credibility after the over expanded CL since 1999-2000, in my books. The drooping into 3rd place in the groups is probably the higlight of this fiasco. So United should never have drooped into Europa League/UEFA cup they should have been in the UEFA cup from the beginning considering United was 3rd last season. Its kind hillarious reading comments by Liverpool fans complaing about UEFA when it was UEFA's corruption that brought them two undeserved CL trophies, as they didn't win any domestic leagues in 2004 or 2018. Which of course also brought us that ESL fiasco we saw few weeks ago. Before anyone brings up 1999, I consider that to be full fillment of the expectional proposals after the Munich aid Disaster, by ether name United as chamions in 1957-58 or give United free entry in 1958-59. Busby warned football of not sacrifice itself on the allter of big buisness in early 1970s. But football basicly did that at the turn of 21st century with UEFA and FIFA leading the charge. So I'm pretty convinced that Busby would be rather appaled at the state modern football finds itself in. SO there is no wonder ESL was protested and there protest gainst the Glazer s that should continue. |
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Post by Stew on May 27, 2021 8:28:08 GMT
The decision to take off Mason was also ridiculous. Along with Scott and AWB, he was performing admirably.
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Post by redcase on May 27, 2021 8:30:10 GMT
I honestly thought when Fergie went we would be OK. At the time my Liverpool supporting mate said do you think you will ever win the champions league again in your lifetime. I fell about laughing, I'm starting to think he was right. Hope the protests continue Glazers out He's wrong future is not our to see, United could well end up fluking the CL next season with bit of luck thats the nature of cups. Beside the fact that they haven'T won truth European Cup since 1984. Their wins in 2005 and 2019 never came at the back of winning the EFL/EPL in the season before, the way it ought to be. Bascily they should have lifted the trophy we lost yesterday in both of those years, instead of ole big ears, and far as im conerened UEFA doesn't have much of credibility after the over expanded CL since 1999-2000, in my books. The drooping into 3rd place in the groups is probably the higlight of this fiasco. So United should never have drooped into Europa League/UEFA cup they should have been in the UEFA cup from the beginning considering United was 3rd last season. Its kind hillarious reading comments by Liverpool fans complaing about UEFA when it was UEFA's corruption that brought them two undeserved CL trophies, as they didn't win any domestic leagues in 2004 or 2018. Which of course also brought us that ESL fiasco we saw few weeks ago. Before anyone brings up 1999, I consider that to be full fillment of the expectional proposals after the Munich aid Disaster, by ether name United as chamions in 1957-58 or give United free entry in 1958-59. Busby warned football of not sacrifice itself on the allter of big buisness in early 1970s. But football basicly did that at the turn of 21st century with UEFA and FIFA leading the charge. So I'm pretty convinced that Busby would be rather appaled at the state modern football finds itself in. SO there is no wonder ESL was protested and there protest gainst the Glazer s that should continue. This may come across as rude, but what on earth are you going on about? You need to gather your thoughts and be coherent about them. |
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Post by DoctorHver on May 27, 2021 8:30:25 GMT
how so? I didn't pay much attention to why Maguire didn't start and it wasn't exactly mentioned in the live-broadcast I watched. Are you twelve years old? I wish then it would be summer of 1998 and greatest season in football about to unfoild in all its glory. |
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Post by alt on May 27, 2021 8:31:42 GMT
As for the match itself, obviously disappointing but not surprising at all. A manager who specialises in this competition/type of match, against one without a tactical bone in his body was never going to end well.
Lindelof should never play for the club again.
We badly need competition for AWB as although going forward he's improved, he's still nowhere near the level of Shaw.
McTominay was good – but in reality, highlights how lacking we are in that department when he's our standout player for that position. Badly need a big upgrade whilst also fucking off Fred.
Rashford with another of his usual dire displays of late, massively out of form, not fully fit, and not as good as people make out. Needs a long rest/to get fully fit and learn to not run directly into opponents. Has to be benched until he turns things around.
Greenwood is still the shining light for me, still young with lots to learn, but he is going to be our genuine star in a year or two.
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Post by mightyez on May 27, 2021 8:32:02 GMT
If you considered changing goalkeeper why did you not do it? I tell you why, sentiment and fear of making big calls. We didn’t lose purely down to Dave but Henderson had a better record on penalties, if you use subs to get the best takers on the pitch, do the same to get the best pen keeper on the pitch Gotta add too that these players are pathetic, they lack personal motivation and self leadership to actually push themselves lead on the pitch and do what needs to be done. Other than Shaw and Cavani the rest did not show up Bruno ran himself into the ground to be fair. Just had no space and Emery obviously doing a job on him. Bruno will escape my wrath as he has been amazing since he came in and clearly works to a different level from everyone else. He is a leader without a doubt |
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