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Post by Stew on Oct 6, 2022 21:12:10 GMT
Yes how dare he be our top goal scorer this season, the useless, hungry child feeding prick. Had he decided to take that shot instead and missed it people would have been criticising for missing it or not passing the ball instead. He's in a no win situation there. The Rashford hate on here (and it is hate) is never not hugely disappointing. Lingard I understood, Pogba too up to a point. But Rashford? Bizarre carry-on.
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Post by smithy2 on Oct 6, 2022 21:13:45 GMT
Kind of like how you never post anything remotely positive about him even when he smashes a couple in. Yes how dare he be our top goal scorer this season, the useless, hungry child feeding prick. Or my personal favourite the “ bad work ethic/ lazy” dog whistle posts.
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Post by Paul on Oct 6, 2022 21:21:59 GMT
Had he decided to take that shot instead and missed it people would have been criticising for missing it or not passing the ball instead. He's in a no win situation there. The Rashford hate on here (and it is hate) is never not hugely disappointing. Lingard I understood, Pogba too up to a point. But Rashford? Bizarre carry-on. Never understood the hate, I don't mind criticism if or when it's warranted but tonight wasn't it. As I said without him we'd have probably lost to this shite tonight. Plays much better from the left aswell.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Oct 6, 2022 22:37:57 GMT
The Rashford hate is perplexing to say the least. I would be concerned that his name keeps coming on a move to Arsenal. It would be a fucking shame and an embarrassment if he left us for that lot. Appreciate that we have a local academy lad who’s doing great things on and off the pitch.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Oct 7, 2022 3:47:50 GMT
Its alright blaming the manager , but this was a game we would have won comfortably if players held up their end. There was 2 or 3 chances inside first 30 mins and a similar number in the second half. I mean how many more chances does Ronaldo need ? End of the day changes made by the manager won the game. Who picks the players? Its not like we have Mbappe sitting on bench. This team he played was our best starting 11 except for Lindelof. (I would also say Martial instead of Ronaldo in current form)
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Post by mightyez on Oct 7, 2022 4:24:51 GMT
Lindelof is just a waste pls sell Sancho is fast becoming a let down, what has happened to the guy that was creating and scoring for fun in Germany? I am genuinely baffled about him.
Eriksen could do with a 1 game rest, martial needs to start. Ronaldo is off form badly and Mendes needs to convince someone to bite in January
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Post by Paul on Oct 7, 2022 5:39:16 GMT
Its not like we have Mbappe sitting on bench. This team he played was our best starting 11 except for Lindelof. (I would also say Martial instead of Ronaldo in current form) Irrespective of who he picks the manager can't be blamed everytime we play poorly or lose. Doesn't matter what the starting XI was yesterday, this game should have been comfortable. Changes were needed, he made said changes and it changed the outcome of the game. The manager isn't at fault for missing the net 24 times or at fault for poor defending. Sometimes, just sometimes you have to look at the players.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Oct 7, 2022 6:20:25 GMT
Had he decided to take that shot instead and missed it people would have been criticising for missing it or not passing the ball instead. He's in a no win situation there. The Rashford hate on here (and it is hate) is never not hugely disappointing. Lingard I understood, Pogba too up to a point. But Rashford? Bizarre carry-on. I have to agree, it's one of the things that totally disconnects me from the fanbase, social media & online boards at times. There's a huge amount of pressure on players wearing the shirt, but our fanbase (not just this board) are so quick to want to bin anyone or anything if they aren't world class all the time. People have short memories, there are so many folks on here who have consistently called for Rashford to be ''fucked off'' somewhere - I've forgotten the number of times I've posted his stats from previous seasons to bring some measure of reality into view. He could very likely become our all-time goal scorer at some point (only 24), and he's an academy product. Bizarre. At Arsenal they'd be hyping him as Henry reincarnated already. It's sometimes far worse for our academy players - McTominay is unlikely to be a consistent starter in a fully fit & firing XI, but no doubt he's had some cracking performances that have more than justified his starting place in those games. SAF won so many titles with strong squad players who loved playing for the club and knew what it meant. Been at the club since he was 5 years old, I genuinely feel other clubs don't nearly bash their own as much as we do sometimes - it's slightly depressing!
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Post by Kojak on Oct 7, 2022 7:27:10 GMT
I’ll say this for Rashford, at least he has legs.
Sancho is looking firmly in that Depay bracket of “I can’t believe how fucking slow he is”.
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Oct 7, 2022 9:44:57 GMT
Sure some people hate Rashford but there's a difference between that and genuine criticism. He was absolutely dreadful last season and looked completely gone in every aspect. This season started similarly but he's been much better since the Liverpool game, as many said at the time that was hopefully the turning point for him.
That being said there's still huge room for improvement. The misplaced pass yesterday didn't matter in the end and too much criticism is harsh seems he scored a couple of goals but it's the kind of thing he needs to iron out. There's little excuse for a pro footballer at a Premier League club to not make that pass.
Anyway.. all that money spent on attackers the last few years and Rashford/Martial look our best two at the minute
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Post by viking22 on Oct 7, 2022 9:49:31 GMT
Rashford I think there is frustration because when he burst onto the scene under LVG sky was the limit. He hasn't fulfilled his potential and has had a slump in form that thankfully is starting to reverse. But he's scored almost 100 goals for the club and I think it is worth seeing if under Ten Hag he can develop into a more complete forward and develop a winning mentality.
Sancho has been a massive disappointment just like Donny. But unlike Donny he has had a lot of chances to impress but hasn't taken them. I cannot really get over how badly Ole spent all the money given to him....Maguire, AWB, Sancho, Donny, Amad, Telles....that is approaching £300m.
Ronaldo it is a real shame. It is definitely more mental than physical and it must be tough for him not playing regularly and not scoring goals and Erik hasn't helped by making it clear that he prefers Martial and Rashford. I think Ronaldo knows he needs goals to get his season started and that desperation is never good in a striker and would explain the uncharacteristic wastefulness last night. But I would not write him off. But of course on present form Martial should be the one leading the line and Ronaldo can have no real argument about that.
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Post by mightyez on Oct 7, 2022 10:22:51 GMT
dunno if anyone has said it but Ronaldo's problems started the moment he did not return from pre season. With this manager i don't think that was gonna wash, the media circus, the team ethic he was trying to build etc etc was massively hit.
The best thing for all would have been comeback, train etc and let Mendes do his thing behind the scenes or in reality Mendes should have done what he needed to do before we flew out.
Like I said in a previous post, the man does not forget stuff.
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Post by Paul on Oct 7, 2022 10:39:08 GMT
Sure some people hate Rashford but there's a difference between that and genuine criticism. He was absolutely dreadful last season and looked completely gone in every aspect. This season started similarly but he's been much better since the Liverpool game, as many said at the time that was hopefully the turning point for him. That being said there's still huge room for improvement. The misplaced pass yesterday didn't matter in the end and too much criticism is harsh seems he scored a couple of goals but it's the kind of thing he needs to iron out. There's little excuse for a pro footballer at a Premier League club to not make that pass. Anyway.. all that money spent on attackers the last few years and Rashford/Martial look our best two at the minute While I agree with your points the problem is that some people don't know the difference between criticism and hate. They're that blinded by it that it ends up becoming an agenda. Some people will just hate for the sake of hating.
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Oct 7, 2022 10:50:29 GMT
Sure some people hate Rashford but there's a difference between that and genuine criticism. He was absolutely dreadful last season and looked completely gone in every aspect. This season started similarly but he's been much better since the Liverpool game, as many said at the time that was hopefully the turning point for him. That being said there's still huge room for improvement. The misplaced pass yesterday didn't matter in the end and too much criticism is harsh seems he scored a couple of goals but it's the kind of thing he needs to iron out. There's little excuse for a pro footballer at a Premier League club to not make that pass. Anyway.. all that money spent on attackers the last few years and Rashford/Martial look our best two at the minute While I agree with your points the problem is that some people don't know the difference between criticism and hate. They're that blinded by it that it ends up becoming an agenda. Some people will just hate for the sake of hating. Six of one and half a dozen of the other. It works both ways. Others seem to want to turn anybody's comments criticising a player into something more. I've had it with Bruno and I still think he ain't playing that well, not because I've developed an unnatural hate for him but because it's just what my eyes tell me when he's on the pitch. Surely most people want to see every player playing well? I'm critical of Bruno but I'd love nothing more to think he looks amazing again like he did when he first arrived. Most people will likely be the same.
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Post by Kojak on Oct 7, 2022 11:12:25 GMT
Rashford I think there is frustration because when he burst onto the scene under LVG sky was the limit. He hasn't fulfilled his potential and has had a slump in form that thankfully is starting to reverse. But he's scored almost 100 goals for the club and I think it is worth seeing if under Ten Hag he can develop into a more complete forward and develop a winning mentality. Sancho has been a massive disappointment just like Donny. But unlike Donny he has had a lot of chances to impress but hasn't taken them. I cannot really get over how badly Ole spent all the money given to him....Maguire, AWB, Sancho, Donny, Amad, Telles....that is approaching £300m. Ronaldo it is a real shame. It is definitely more mental than physical and it must be tough for him not playing regularly and not scoring goals and Erik hasn't helped by making it clear that he prefers Martial and Rashford. I think Ronaldo knows he needs goals to get his season started and that desperation is never good in a striker and would explain the uncharacteristic wastefulness last night. But I would not write him off. But of course on present form Martial should be the one leading the line and Ronaldo can have no real argument about that. That list of signings there, I think in some ways it’s unfair to Ole to criticise him for all of them. Maguire, fair enough, he’s bang to rights there, nobody on here wanted us to sign him. AWB we all seemed to think was a good purchase, even if the actual process of signing him was a mess. Sancho, everyone barring probably Tatty thought he was an exceptional talent and the word “generational” was being used. Donny, everyone was chuffed with that signing. You can’t go saying Sancho has had more of a chance than him. The reason for that is that every now and then there’s a glimpse of something in Sancho. Donny has been shit and has never looked up to it. Including at Everton where he started plenty of games. Amad, his level of talent was really talked up when we bought him. Nobody had a problem with signing a too young prospect. Telles is another one who was touted on here because he was picking up assists galore abroad. Most of these players didn’t seem like horrific signings at the time. The question marks were mostly around how much we paid for them rather than the quality of the players themselves. I dare say if you go back and find the threads and pages from when most of those were signed, we would’ve been largely if not unanimously chuffed to fucking bits. Hindsight is brilliant init. I’ve seen people on here go berserk that we never signed that fucking Pepe lad who Arsenal got. He was total dogshit as it turned out. Every other player along the conveyer belt needs to be signed and needs to be signed yesterday.
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