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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 19:35:40 GMT
We need at least 5 players of this standard. In the next 2 windows(the biggest in the Clubs history I would argue) it is not exaggerated to say 10 players could leave. Ferdinand,Giggs,Young,Anderson,Evra,Nani,Cleverly,
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sleel6
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Post by sleel6 on Dec 6, 2013 8:29:11 GMT
Out, no question: Young, Nani, Anderson, Giggs Last Chance: Cleverley (Get him a decent midfield partner, who knows), Valencia (he's got it half back, he has half a season to figure out how to cross again), Welbeck (start scoring FFS), Fellaini (start playing FFS) In: Kagawa, Hernandez, Powell, Lingard, Zaha, Fabio, Our whole U-21s, Not Baines Alternate In: Kagawa, Hernandez, Powell, Lingard, Zaha, Fabio, Central midfielders - Two of them, at least, Not Baines Cleverley has to go for me. Surprised you've got Valencia there, thought you were a fan of his? I think he's quality although some on here may disagree. Hernandez will be gone at the end of the season and i'd be surprised if Kagawa was still here too. Powell could be huge for us.
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Post by RedDevil'sAdvocate on Dec 6, 2013 8:40:07 GMT
Read today that Gundogan still hasn't renewed his contract and might leave for 25m - that is right, for less than Fellaini!!
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Post by karthy on Dec 6, 2013 9:10:48 GMT
Out, no question: Young, Nani, Anderson, Giggs Last Chance: Cleverley (Get him a decent midfield partner, who knows), Valencia (he's got it half back, he has half a season to figure out how to cross again), Welbeck (start scoring FFS), Fellaini (start playing FFS) In: Kagawa, Hernandez, Powell, Lingard, Zaha, Fabio, Our whole U-21s, Not Baines Alternate In: Kagawa, Hernandez, Powell, Lingard, Zaha, Fabio, Central midfielders - Two of them, at least, Not Baines Bestie By In if you mean a contract Extension for Kagawa , the i am all for it , been asking in this forum as well as a few of friends who go to OT regularly as to whether we are looking at extending his contract and while Kags is still said to be Keen it seesm its not been encouraging one from our side. He will have 2 years left at the end of this season , i think. No.1 Priority. Out; I will include Rio as well. Be as it be that he has been a great servant to us he is just past it as much as Giggs is. Out: Young, Nani , Ando , Rio, Evra ( if he really wants to go back home, have a feeling he will). Giggs ( Full Time coach please). Tony V , Clevs can get one more season at best but tell them its their last and MF gets to be told that he needs to up his game or his dream will soon end. In: Kagawa & Chico( Contract Extension) , Get back Powell and Lingard. Use Zaha and promote Fabio and Cole & Pearson. Based on performances checks use Petrucci & Tunni. I'd send Rothwell on a short loan from Jan to the end to see if he can be used as well. Buy: Matic/Herrera , Coetrao ( LB/LW)/Shaw( if we are selling Fabio and won't use Blackett) , Zouma , Koke/Gundogan and Rues/Draxler ( 5 Buys). We are United FFS we are supposed to have a problem of plenty and esp Top world class players at that not 1/2 Either Sell of Rooney or make his contract Extension based on performance and ability to actually swap positions and play and put it in big Large Letters that he ain't the Club or greater than the Club. IMO DM lost his Dressing Room Control or his players confidence when he gave in to Rooney and also handed in the Captain's armband. Don;t think that it sat well with the Team or the seniors
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Post by makedon on Dec 6, 2013 9:19:56 GMT
I doubt Petrucci will get a look in. He barely plays for Antwerp in Belgium second league which says lots to be honest.
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Post by karthy on Dec 6, 2013 9:29:53 GMT
Wonder how Daehli is doing
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Post by Bestie on Dec 6, 2013 9:48:00 GMT
Out, no question: Young, Nani, Anderson, Giggs Last Chance: Cleverley (Get him a decent midfield partner, who knows), Valencia (he's got it half back, he has half a season to figure out how to cross again), Welbeck (start scoring FFS), Fellaini (start playing FFS) In: Kagawa, Hernandez, Powell, Lingard, Zaha, Fabio, Our whole U-21s, Not Baines Alternate In: Kagawa, Hernandez, Powell, Lingard, Zaha, Fabio, Central midfielders - Two of them, at least, Not Baines Cleverley has to go for me. Surprised you've got Valencia there, thought you were a fan of his? I think he's quality although some on here may disagree. Hernandez will be gone at the end of the season and i'd be surprised if Kagawa was still here too. Powell could be huge for us. I am a big fan of Valencia, but that crossing stat recently opened my eyes a bit. If he doesn't sort his crossing out by the end of the season I don't know that he ever will. Cleverley is only twenty-four. No top class midfielder was the finished article at that age, and we saw a glimpse of what he could be before Davies lynched him. So if we get someone decent in January, we may see him come back to that. Look at Ramsey, it's taken him years to get over that leg break. Injuries can definitely affect players even after the physcial re-hab is done. karthy mate - Aye, Rio, Evra, and Rooney should be outs for me too; the players I said are the ones we actively need to get rid of. Rio's contract will be up, so just let him go to the MLS or whatever, and I'm not too fussed whether Pat stays or goes by now. I doubt he'll really push for a move but if an offer comes he'll go, if you know what I mean? With Rooney, I'd love to see him sold but not to Chelsea/English Clubs, so we may be stuck with him again, unfortunately.
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Post by Anocasa on Dec 6, 2013 9:54:07 GMT
Wonder how Daehli is doing Been a key player for Ole from game 1 in his central role, and won the Norwegian cup. Also now a regular on the national side (all though that's not saying much as it's Norway) So I'd say he's doing pretty good.. Hope there is a clause...
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Post by karthy on Dec 6, 2013 10:08:39 GMT
Agree on Pat. Was of the same opinion on Rooney as well but been mulling over it a bit past few weeks. COuld it be our stubborness that's getting us into deep troubled waters. We won't sell Rooney to a Rival PL Club, Rooney won't stop strutting his stuff and be willing to swap or interchange positions. We loose out on a player(s) who could take us up a notch or work better than Rooney perhaps. Lets say Chelsea - Shit as they may be , they are still above us without Rooney , but what if we had used him to get say Mata and or Luiz or Lukaku. I know that DM hasn't used Kags effectively or in most cases at all. But Mata is every bit a player DM will like. can play in different positions ,helps out defensively as well. Luiz is a cunt whom i daresay we could use a bit of but in the Middle not at the back and Lukaku is the type of striker we haven't had and i'd say his more like Drogba every passing day. All 3 had differences with Chelsea and weren't exactly rated high by Jose and we could have pushed for ( i Know conjecture , hypothetical at this point but still) Rooney hasn't signed an extension yet and we don't seem to be in any hurry to give one either but for as long as he is here he is hurting a younger PLAYMAKER's influence and growth. Regardless of any other knucklehead's opinion about Kags the fact is that he is the only player we have in our ranks that can connect the ball between our half and the opposite half. The only option, IMO, left is to see if Dortmund resigned to loosing Lewa be open for another striker. Whether it means we pay less for lewa or as a FM exchange or in part of getting Rues/Gundogoan. The chances as you know are very very little. None of the other top teams will , id put Ream but they will move for Suarez before going for Rooney. So i , at this point, really don't care where Rooney ends up as long as we make a pretty darn good deal of it. He shouldn't be IMO payed any less than what Blondie went for if its in PL. As an aside it's kind of sad that you rate Cole and Lingard behind Barmby and Pearson mate. Wonder how Daehli is doing Been a key player for Ole from game 1 in his central role, and won the Norwegian cup. Also now a regular on the national side (all though that's not saying much as it's Norway) So I'd say he's doing pretty good.. Hope there is a clause... There is , hence my Qn on him. Also if i am not mistaken the club is one of our feeder clubs as well.
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Post by NR7 on Dec 6, 2013 10:26:01 GMT
I wish we are in a time warp!! The window opens and in the blink of an eye, it's past deadline. Saves us all the pain & anguish.. A while back one poster opined we need 150m to spend on 5-6 players and he has got it bang on.. That was me. I believe I mentioned the following postitons: LB CB CM x3 LW CF I said this 2 years ago. You, good sir are a genius!! Now kindly use your contacts to pass on a list of targets and who needs to be rid to the brains trust
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Post by ManicRed on Dec 6, 2013 10:40:10 GMT
Jan is a make or break month for Moyes. Its clear to the whole F***ing world we need to strengthen whether we do remains to be scene. Its been clear for the past 5 years we have needed new midfielders but its never been resolved. Also, Moyes will be here for a while no knee jerk reactions as Fergie/Gill for years always stood up for managers getting sacked too early it will be rather hyperctical of us sacking Moyes after a season even if we finish outside top 4. Its been posted before, but alot of the "world class" signings we are supposed to be looking at wont happen in Jan. Borussia Dortmund are still in the CL at the moment.. Okay they may get knocked out but even still any players from them will be cup-tied but for us to have any hope of signing Reus & lkay Gündoğan we need them to get knocked out of the CL
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Post by Bestie on Dec 6, 2013 10:43:17 GMT
As an aside it's kind of sad that you rate Cole and Lingard behind Barmby and Pearson mate. You mean for my Sig 'Some Day' Team? They're on the bench! I rate both but we can only pick XI Cole/Jesse for Barmby/Jani would work too. Sadly I can't envisage any of these players getting chances with us this season, or in the next couple either to be honest. We don't give consistent chances to three or four younth prospects at a time anymore.
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Post by NR7 on Dec 6, 2013 10:45:08 GMT
BVB tracking Matic is anything but good news for us. That likely means Gundogan is leaving in Jan, to RM
Gungogan has not played in CL and hence not cup tied..
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Dec 6, 2013 10:58:43 GMT
Perez has apparently chartered a plane to Madrid for Pogba's dad with a view to making a 40 million deal happen in future.
Pogba to Real, Gundogan to United - everybody wins.
Except, well, every club in Europe coming up against Real in the next few years.
Gundogan and Matic would be fantastic.
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Post by alt on Dec 6, 2013 11:01:10 GMT
I wish we are in a time warp!! The window opens and in the blink of an eye, it's past deadline. Saves us all the pain & anguish.. A while back one poster opined we need 150m to spend on 5-6 players and he has got it bang on.. Well Ed has come out and said we basically fucked up in the last window. I expect us to unleash the biggest transfer spending spree in our history in the next 2 windows. 150 mill over 2 windows. 5 30 mil players. CB,LB,2 CM'S and a wide right man . My 5 would be Baines,Barkeley,Gundogan,Chialini and Muller. Wait I have just bought these players on FIFA. Looking good. Back to reality. Swap them for Coentrao, Mangala, Draxler/Reus, Matic and Gundogan and we'd be back in business.
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