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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 7:21:20 GMT
The refereeing has been so bad this season it's almost converted me on video technology, but the truth is even that wouldn't help situations like Ander's red where the referee is just utterly determined to send him off regardless and will use the vagueness of the statute book to do it. The only answer is for referees to be less shit, and that starts with accountability. What we have is a situation where refs are given no respect off the pitch but are Gods off it. It needs to be the other way round. They need to be proper respected on the pitch but be able to be criticed after the game.
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Post by redcase on Mar 14, 2017 8:40:00 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if they're being lobbied to perform so badly by the video referee companies or some such.
Because I'm a believer now. We bloody need video refs.
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Post by Tinker on Mar 14, 2017 9:32:27 GMT
Realised how incredibly annoying Conte can be last night. Almost every touch on any fucking player and he's mouthing and ranting like a player jumping up and down and shouting at the third official. I can kind of see why opposition fans hated Fergie, it clearly works. I don't think SAF was quite as bad. Literally breath on one of his players and Conte goes mental. Hate the fucker.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Mar 14, 2017 9:35:03 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if they're being lobbied to perform so badly by the video referee companies or some such. Because I'm a believer now. We bloody need video refs. I was saying this around December I think. The drop in refereeing quality was both so large and so sudden this season that I can genuinely entertain ideas around a 'conspiracy' of some sorts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 9:39:58 GMT
I'm onboard with the Conte the Cunt feeling to be honest and I actually wanted him here. I was just saying in the office about how Conte and Klopp appear to have free reign to basically have a meltdown on the touchline this season
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Post by Bestie on Mar 14, 2017 9:41:54 GMT
Still feeling robbed. Rashford should have scored but 1-1 was no good to us anyway. Fucking Michael Oliver. Zeus help him and me if I ever meet him in the street. Spineless fucking Clattenburg wannabe tosser.
I have never heard of this 'cumulative team fouls = next player booked' bullshit. It isn't fucking rugby. Also, please explain to me how standing still constitutes any of the following:
Charges Jumps at Kicks or attempts to kick Pushes Strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt) Tackles or challenges Trips or attempts to trip
... an opponent with careless/reckless/excessive force.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 9:55:28 GMT
It took until the 42 minute for Oliver to give a decision our way. It was a pathetic performance yet again. Everything went their way. Up until the red card we were as comfortable as they were.
Also I'd like to mention Hazard as well, seeing as he played a part in the sending off. The diving Belgian tosspot. They spent the majority of the game on their arses with minimal contact.
Costa, William, Hazard all went down like they'd been shot. Costa was particularly embarrassing. Going down rolling around in agont yet Rojo didn't even touch him.
What boils my giblets more than anything though is nothing gets mentioned about referee decisions going against us all night...yet if it was roles reversed it would have been the talking point of the night. One rule for us, one for everyone else.
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Post by Bestie on Mar 14, 2017 10:04:40 GMT
With Hazard, Keown in particular but all pundits in general go on about how 'difficult he is to tackle'. Which my dad and I believe is because he simply doesn't let you. Either he runs away or the second you get near him he falls over. He's much like Messi in that way. You can't tackle them; if you touch them it's 'a foul'.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 10:08:14 GMT
I'll agree with that but the 2nd yellow wasn't the case. He knew exactly what he was doing and threw himself to the floor with very minimal if any contact at all.
He's a world class player that ruins it for himself by doing that shit. We get slated to shit for it but when its against us it seems to be acceptable.
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Post by Stew on Mar 14, 2017 10:16:05 GMT
Still feeling robbed. Rashford should have scored but 1-1 was no good to us anyway. Fucking Michael Oliver. Zeus help him and me if I ever meet him in the street. Spineless fucking Clattenburg wannabe tosser. I have never heard of this 'cumulative team fouls = next player booked' bullshit. It isn't fucking rugby. Also, please explain to me how standing still constitutes any of the following: Charges Jumps at Kicks or attempts to kick Pushes Strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt) Tackles or challenges Trips or attempts to trip ... an opponent with careless/reckless/excessive force. Exactly. It's horseshit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 10:16:57 GMT
With Hazard, Keown in particular but all pundits in general go on about how 'difficult he is to tackle'. Which my dad and I believe is because he simply doesn't let you. Either he runs away or the second you get near him he falls over. He's much like Messi in that way. You can't tackle them; if you touch them it's 'a foul'. Annoys the shit out of me that. Half the reason he's so good is you should be able to able to rough him up but no one is allowed to touch him. Same goes with Hazard.
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 14, 2017 10:20:53 GMT
I've seen a few people across the internet saying in the next game at Old Trafford the United players should kick the shit out of Chelsea, with Hazard and Costa being the main targets. The problem is that's playing right into their hands. As tempting (and deserved) as it is to smash into some cheating, diving little cunts.. it just ends up in yellows, reds and the referee giving them all the protection in the world.
Pundits like those bitter pricks Keown and Shearer talk about Hazard and Costa being clever by selling free kicks, going down in clever positions etc... and it infuriates me. Both Keown and Shearer kicked/elbowed lumps out of people throughout their careers, and they would have smashed into Hazard at the first opportunity yet been the first to complain about him diving, posturing and being a snide, arrogant little prick. Not only that but they regularly laid into Ronaldo for doing exactly the same thing, but because he was at United he was slammed by the pundits and media.
If only he'd been afforded the same protection from the media and from referees that Hazard currently enjoys.
Oh and the fucking antics from Conte, fucking hell. Mourinho doing it? He's childish, arrogant, aggressive and whiny. Conte or Klopp pressuring referees, squaring up to opposition managers, screaming at referees for every decision, shouting abuse at assistant refereees? All passion, mate. Heat of the moment. Top blokes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 11:31:51 GMT
If we'd have gone into the 2nd half with 11 men it would have been a different story alotgether.
Bringing Fellaini on is like playing with 9 men so that change to me was completely Pointless, especially for Mikki who we could have dine with on the counter. Only player I know what can get out jumped by a player a foot shorter.
I'd be so fucked off if I was Bastian.
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Post by Bestie on Mar 14, 2017 11:37:01 GMT
Mourinho wanted to keep the shape in midfield as best he could, which meant Rashford or Mikhitaryan off for a midfielder. He probably looked at it and thought we'll need Carrick fresh for Thursday night, hence Fellaini.
Don't know what Deutscher Fußball-mascot has to do with anything to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 11:48:50 GMT
Mourinho wanted to keep the shape in midfield as best he could, which meant Rashford or Mikhitaryan off for a midfielder. He probably looked at it and thought we'll need Carrick fresh for Thursday night, hence Fellaini. Don't know what Deutscher Fußball-mascot has to do with anything to be honest.
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