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Post by Stretty on Mar 18, 2024 20:47:10 GMT
Have we turned a corner under ETH(probably not)?
Best thing for SJR to do is just assess the situation at the end of the season.
You can’t hire or fire managers on the odd game (that way of thinking got us ole for 3 years).
CL qualification will possibly save him. FA cup I’m not sure.
If we get neither I think SJR will pull the trigger and go with his own man.
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Post by Stew on Mar 18, 2024 22:35:13 GMT
i`ve seen this now a couple of times on this forum and i dont understand where this is coming from or the logic behind it. bruno is one of, if not the most creative midfielder in europe and probably has been for the past couple of years. and people really want him dropped or sold? i`m finding it hard to take that opinion serious to be honest. we wanted a midfield and team build around pogba but now some want bruno to be sold? what are you on about? build a team around bruno. he is a very intelligent player, him being all over the pitch is the freedom he gets from the manager because of the lack of qualities in other areas. i`m sure bruno can be disciplined if demanded from him and if the others to their job. i just don buy the narrative that bruno is a big problem in this team, thats complete bollocks. Can't get into city team blah blah, he's forced to hit Hollywood passes to rashford cus that's all we've had for years. We'd be fucked without him. I love the fact that he creates more chances than any player in the league always conveniently gets left out.
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Post by redcase on Mar 19, 2024 4:21:16 GMT
Lost count of the number of times after Fergie I have hoped this would be the case , it never happened and i dont think it will this time either. Even last season after League cup win , instead of using it as a springboard for better things our standards slipped, its almost like our players thought yeah we have done our bit we can relax for rest of the season. Also a team build around Rashford and Bruno is never going to reach the level we expect from Manchester United. They will have moments of magic and go back to their usual self. Then once the pressure is off, score some goals and pad their stats. i`ve seen this now a couple of times on this forum and i dont understand where this is coming from or the logic behind it. bruno is one of, if not the most creative midfielder in europe and probably has been for the past couple of years. and people really want him dropped or sold? i`m finding it hard to take that opinion serious to be honest. we wanted a midfield and team build around pogba but now some want bruno to be sold? what are you on about? build a team around bruno. he is a very intelligent player, him being all over the pitch is the freedom he gets from the manager because of the lack of qualities in other areas. i`m sure bruno can be disciplined if demanded from him and if the others to their job. i just don buy the narrative that bruno is a big problem in this team, thats complete bollocks. Bruno the captain and Bruno the footballer are different, yet they manage to overlap and cloud the minds of fans imo. He’s an exceptional creative force but ends up an embarrassing choice of captain.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Mar 19, 2024 6:04:31 GMT
Lost count of the number of times after Fergie I have hoped this would be the case , it never happened and i dont think it will this time either. Even last season after League cup win , instead of using it as a springboard for better things our standards slipped, its almost like our players thought yeah we have done our bit we can relax for rest of the season. Also a team build around Rashford and Bruno is never going to reach the level we expect from Manchester United. They will have moments of magic and go back to their usual self. Then once the pressure is off, score some goals and pad their stats. i`ve seen this now a couple of times on this forum and i dont understand where this is coming from or the logic behind it. bruno is one of, if not the most creative midfielder in europe and probably has been for the past couple of years. and people really want him dropped or sold? i`m finding it hard to take that opinion serious to be honest. we wanted a midfield and team build around pogba but now some want bruno to be sold? what are you on about? build a team around bruno. he is a very intelligent player, him being all over the pitch is the freedom he gets from the manager because of the lack of qualities in other areas. i`m sure bruno can be disciplined if demanded from him and if the others to their job. i just don buy the narrative that bruno is a big problem in this team, thats complete bollocks. He is positionaly all over the place , keep losing possession in dangerous position , break down promising attacks by shooting it into the stands , keeps moaning throughout the match. He is one of those pass first think later players. I agree he does produce moments of magic especially in some counter attack situations , he stays free from injury and works hard but overall i dont think he is going to help us take the next step. At 29 is his game going to evolve anymore ? Most likely not , we are seeing him at his prime. This is it.
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Post by anti_social on Mar 19, 2024 7:32:10 GMT
Bruno has been pretty ineffective as captain, but I wonder how much of that is down to the whole setup being a massive shitshow from top to bottom. It can't be easy trying to captain a bunch of over-entitled egos who between them have seen off plenty of managers and who were given free reign to act like that by a (at best) disinterested if not incompetent management. I do wonder how much of his indiscipline just reflects that chaos.
On his day he's one of our few world-class players, and I reckon history will show he never got the credit he deserved (stat-padder, whinger etc). And at 29 I still think he's got more to give, just look at Totti for example. (Not saying he's a Totti btw).
Like ETH, he deserves another season in his role as hopefully the crap around him begins to get sorted.
Also, completely unrelated but did you see him deal with that little mascot kid before the match, who was clearly very nervous? He's seemingly a lovely bloke.
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Post by RAZ on Mar 19, 2024 9:18:43 GMT
i`ve seen this now a couple of times on this forum and i dont understand where this is coming from or the logic behind it. bruno is one of, if not the most creative midfielder in europe and probably has been for the past couple of years. and people really want him dropped or sold? i`m finding it hard to take that opinion serious to be honest. we wanted a midfield and team build around pogba but now some want bruno to be sold? what are you on about? build a team around bruno. he is a very intelligent player, him being all over the pitch is the freedom he gets from the manager because of the lack of qualities in other areas. i`m sure bruno can be disciplined if demanded from him and if the others to their job. i just don buy the narrative that bruno is a big problem in this team, thats complete bollocks. Bruno the captain and Bruno the footballer are different, yet they manage to overlap and cloud the minds of fans imo. He’s an exceptional creative force but ends up an embarrassing choice of captain. thats how i see it. is he the right captain? probably not. however its got nothing to do with his ability as a football player. without bruno we would create fuck all, hardest working player on the pitch and regularly setting up others. he gets more credit from rival fans and players than from our own fans.
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Post by RAZ on Mar 19, 2024 9:24:46 GMT
i`ve seen this now a couple of times on this forum and i dont understand where this is coming from or the logic behind it. bruno is one of, if not the most creative midfielder in europe and probably has been for the past couple of years. and people really want him dropped or sold? i`m finding it hard to take that opinion serious to be honest. we wanted a midfield and team build around pogba but now some want bruno to be sold? what are you on about? build a team around bruno. he is a very intelligent player, him being all over the pitch is the freedom he gets from the manager because of the lack of qualities in other areas. i`m sure bruno can be disciplined if demanded from him and if the others to their job. i just don buy the narrative that bruno is a big problem in this team, thats complete bollocks. He is positionaly all over the place , keep losing possession in dangerous position , break down promising attacks by shooting it into the stands , keeps moaning throughout the match. He is one of those pass first think later players. I agree he does produce moments of magic especially in some counter attack situations , he stays free from injury and works hard but overall i dont think he is going to help us take the next step. At 29 is his game going to evolve anymore ? Most likely not , we are seeing him at his prime. This is it. creative players lose possession in dangerous areas. thats what happens if all your passes are meant to be going forward. we all complain about the constant sideways and backpasses. can he be frustrating at times? of course. but thats what you get when you have a player who always looks to create, transition and play forward.
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Post by Karma on Mar 19, 2024 10:14:57 GMT
Still want him gone at the end of the season.
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Post by Kojak on Mar 19, 2024 10:44:59 GMT
For me there’s not a player in the team who cares more about United and more about winning than Bruno. For that reason I’m alright with him having the armband. Don’t think there’s a viable other option, nobody is a better player than him and to be honest probably nobody has the character he has either.
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Post by caino on Mar 19, 2024 10:55:03 GMT
Still want him gone at the end of the season. and replace him with who ? we would be bottom half of the table for the last few seasons if it wasnt for bruno. he pretty much carried this club for a couple of seasons
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Post by unitedsotex on Mar 19, 2024 12:17:50 GMT
Still want him gone at the end of the season. and replace him with who ? we would be bottom half of the table for the last few seasons if it wasnt for bruno. he pretty much carried this club for a couple of seasons Guy is a true iron man for this club too.... easily 95%+ of the minutes possible since being here
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Post by DedRevil on Mar 19, 2024 12:39:08 GMT
Still want him gone at the end of the season. and replace him with who ? we would be bottom half of the table for the last few seasons if it wasnt for bruno. he pretty much carried this club for a couple of seasons I took it as Ten Hag
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Post by caino on Mar 19, 2024 14:56:26 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13214269/Man-United-Sir-Jim-Ratcliffe-Gareth-Southgate-Old-Trafford-EnglandErik-ten-Hag-INEOS.htmlEngland manager Gareth Southgate is reportedly Sir Jim Ratcliffe's No 1 choice to replace Erik ten Hag at Manchester United this summer. Ratcliffe is increasingly confident of tempting Southgate to Old Trafford after his INEOS sports team canvassed United legends, according to the Daily Star. They claim that Southgate, who has been England boss since 2016, has the backing of some of United's current players - and also incoming director of football Dan Ashworth. Southgate and Ashworth worked together at the Football Association and would reportedly be keen to team up again. Southgate's contract with the Three Lions expires in December this year, after the European Championship in Germany, with the Football Association eager to get him to extend it.
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Mar 19, 2024 15:17:34 GMT
They’ve made plenty of the right noises but seeing too much of a potential obsession with going English from INEOS.
I think getting Southgate in would be a Moyes-level disaster.
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Post by unitedsotex on Mar 19, 2024 15:41:09 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13214269/Man-United-Sir-Jim-Ratcliffe-Gareth-Southgate-Old-Trafford-EnglandErik-ten-Hag-INEOS.htmlEngland manager Gareth Southgate is reportedly Sir Jim Ratcliffe's No 1 choice to replace Erik ten Hag at Manchester United this summer. Ratcliffe is increasingly confident of tempting Southgate to Old Trafford after his INEOS sports team canvassed United legends, according to the Daily Star. They claim that Southgate, who has been England boss since 2016, has the backing of some of United's current players - and also incoming director of football Dan Ashworth. Southgate and Ashworth worked together at the Football Association and would reportedly be keen to team up again. Southgate's contract with the Three Lions expires in December this year, after the European Championship in Germany, with the Football Association eager to get him to extend it. I would prefer Ole to come back over him... absolutely not. IDC if he lives under ratcliffe's desk, we have got to look to better managers than Southgate, Porter, Tuchel....
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