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Post by viking22 on Mar 19, 2024 17:34:32 GMT
Southgate would be a disastrous signing. He's had as good an England squad as any of his predecessors especially when you consider the strength in depth and bottles it every time he comes up against a good team. He'd have been sacked long ago if he didn't always seem to get an easy route to the semis/finals. His club record is abysmal. Yes the players love him because he is soft. But that was true of Ole as well and it only got him so far.
We should be hiring the best manager and buying the best players at the best prices. Favouring British managers and British players isn't going to help matters. We spent £250m on AWB, Maguire, Sancho, Mount and all of them have flopped (well jury is out on Mount but I can't see him being the heartbeat of our midfield) and we got ripped off for every single one of them.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Mar 19, 2024 17:46:48 GMT
Nobody , not even the glazers were stupid enough to consider Gareth fuckin Southgate for the job. Iam sure Jim will know better than that.
Its most likely the usual nonsense media come up when there is not much football going on.
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Post by Stew on Mar 19, 2024 18:15:27 GMT
Still want him gone at the end of the season. and replace him with who ? we would be bottom half of the table for the last few seasons if it wasnt for bruno. he pretty much carried this club for a couple of seasons You’ll be waiting a very long time for an answer.
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Post by dazjoe on Mar 19, 2024 22:33:15 GMT
Southgate would be a disastrous signing. He's had as good an England squad as any of his predecessors especially when you consider the strength in depth and bottles it every time he comes up against a good team. He'd have been sacked long ago if he didn't always seem to get an easy route to the semis/finals. His club record is abysmal. Yes the players love him because he is soft. But that was true of Ole as well and it only got him so far. We should be hiring the best manager and buying the best players at the best prices. Favouring British managers and British players isn't going to help matters. We spent £250m on AWB, Maguire, Sancho, Mount and all of them have flopped (well jury is out on Mount but I can't see him being the heartbeat of our midfield) and we got ripped off for every single one of them. Hugely agree to no on Southgate but disagree he's had as good a group of players as any previous managers. 20 years ago Sven had Neville, Rio, Sol, Terry, Ashley Cole, Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Hargreaves, Carrick, Beckham, Joe Cole, Owen and Rooney. Southgate has Shaw, Stones, Maguire, Phillips, Henderson, Sterling, Rashford, Lingard, Ali, etc. Difference is night and day.
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Post by Kojak on Mar 19, 2024 23:01:39 GMT
Southgate would be a disastrous signing. He's had as good an England squad as any of his predecessors especially when you consider the strength in depth and bottles it every time he comes up against a good team. He'd have been sacked long ago if he didn't always seem to get an easy route to the semis/finals. His club record is abysmal. Yes the players love him because he is soft. But that was true of Ole as well and it only got him so far. We should be hiring the best manager and buying the best players at the best prices. Favouring British managers and British players isn't going to help matters. We spent £250m on AWB, Maguire, Sancho, Mount and all of them have flopped (well jury is out on Mount but I can't see him being the heartbeat of our midfield) and we got ripped off for every single one of them. Hugely agree to no on Southgate but disagree he's had as good a group of players as any previous managers. 20 years ago Sven had Neville, Rio, Sol, Terry, Ashley Cole, Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Hargreaves, Carrick, Beckham, Joe Cole, Owen and Rooney. Southgate has Shaw, Stones, Maguire, Phillips, Henderson, Sterling, Rashford, Lingard, Ali, etc. Difference is night and day. People forget the scorn that was poured on that 2018 squad he had. Absolutely nothing expected of them. Two tournaments after that he’s had more to work with. But nowhere near that “golden generation” of 2004-06. Having said that, yeah don’t want him at United obviously.
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Post by Stew on Mar 22, 2024 15:55:08 GMT
Still want him gone at the end of the season. and replace him with who ? we would be bottom half of the table for the last few seasons if it wasnt for bruno. he pretty much carried this club for a couple of seasons You’re still waiting for an answer I see. By the way, replace the useless moaning bastard asap- 🇪🇺🎩 Most chances created by players in Europe's top five leagues this season: ▪️82 - Bruno Fernandes ▪️82 - Kevin Stöger ▪️80 - Ilkay Gündogan
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Post by Paul on Mar 22, 2024 17:23:32 GMT
and replace him with who ? we would be bottom half of the table for the last few seasons if it wasnt for bruno. he pretty much carried this club for a couple of seasons You’re still waiting for an answer I see. By the way, replace the useless moaning bastard asap- 🇪🇺🎩 Most chances created by players in Europe's top five leagues this season: ▪️82 - Bruno Fernandes ▪️82 - Kevin Stöger ▪️80 - Ilkay Gündogan Christ I thought the original post was about Ten Hag. People actually want Bruno gone? 😳😂. Jfc.
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Post by Stew on Mar 22, 2024 17:24:12 GMT
You’re still waiting for an answer I see. By the way, replace the useless moaning bastard asap- 🇪🇺🎩 Most chances created by players in Europe's top five leagues this season: ▪️82 - Bruno Fernandes ▪️82 - Kevin Stöger ▪️80 - Ilkay Gündogan Christ I thought the original post was about Ten Hag. People actually want Bruno gone? 😳😂. Jfc. Oh yeah.
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Post by Paul on Mar 22, 2024 17:32:23 GMT
Christ I thought the original post was about Ten Hag. People actually want Bruno gone? 😳😂. Jfc. Oh yeah. Losing the armband I can understand. Don't think he has the right qualities for it. Hes not had his best season but to want him sold is madness 😂.
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Post by Karma on Mar 23, 2024 14:40:06 GMT
Losing the armband I can understand. Don't think he has the right qualities for it. Hes not had his best season but to want him sold is madness 😂. I’m referring to the hired suit that manages England. For all his faults Bruno creates , until we get better he stays for me.
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Post by Stew on Mar 23, 2024 17:50:35 GMT
Losing the armband I can understand. Don't think he has the right qualities for it. Hes not had his best season but to want him sold is madness 😂. I’m referring to the hired suit that manages England. For all his faults Bruno creates , until we get better he stays for me. Your post that we were referring to was- ‘Still want him gone at the end of the season.’ So clearly not about Southgate.
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Post by Karma on Mar 23, 2024 20:28:27 GMT
I’m referring to the hired suit that manages England. For all his faults Bruno creates , until we get better he stays for me. Your post that we were referring to was- ‘Still want him gone at the end of the season.’ So clearly not about Southgate. No I want ETH gone but not downgraded with Southgate. This is the manager thread. Not sure why you’re trying to spin this into a Bruno thing. I don’t really have any strong feelings on him either way.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Mar 24, 2024 5:41:41 GMT
Just on the Bruno topic, i do believe Mount should get a run in his place once he is fit. May or may not work out, but worth trying imo.
Also its amazing how all these stats keep saying about his creativity and yet after almost every match we all complain how few chances we actually create.
If you look hard enough there will be stats saying Gerrard or Lampard is better than Scholes, doesn't mean its true.
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Post by Stew on Mar 24, 2024 12:00:20 GMT
Just on the Bruno topic, i do believe Mount should get a run in his place once he is fit. May or may not work out, but worth trying imo. Also its amazing how all these stats keep saying about his creativity and yet after almost every match we all complain how few chances we actually create. If you look hard enough there will be stats saying Gerrard or Lampard is better than Scholes, doesn't mean its true. So to be clear, what you’re saying is- ‘We all complain about how few chances we actually create’ Is a better metric to judge chances created than the statistical data available? Data collated by non-Utd supporting companies and organisations like who scored.com?
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Post by DedRevil on Mar 24, 2024 12:25:10 GMT
Just on the Bruno topic, i do believe Mount should get a run in his place once he is fit. May or may not work out, but worth trying imo. Also its amazing how all these stats keep saying about his creativity and yet after almost every match we all complain how few chances we actually create. If you look hard enough there will be stats saying Gerrard or Lampard is better than Scholes, doesn't mean its true. So to be clear, what you’re saying is- ‘We all complain about how few chances we actually create’ Is a better metric to judge chances created than the statistical data available? Data collated by non-Utd supporting companies and organisations like who scored.com? I think where it gets a bit clouded, is that Bruno creates a lot of chances for our wingers, which they generally fuck up, and some assume they're all created for the CF, which they're not
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