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Post by kokka78 on Aug 5, 2007 22:26:17 GMT
if you aske what i prefer to watch between Formula 1 and Moto Gp i say Moto Gp the Formula 1 is not the same anymore
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Post by kokka78 on Aug 6, 2007 23:07:18 GMT
Fernando Alonso has refused to speak to his McLaren team-mate Lewis Hamilton since Hungarian Grand Prix qualifying, following the pit-lane incident that landed both drivers and the team in hot water.
Alonso was docked five places on the grid from his pole position for impeding his team-mates qualifying effort by holding him up in the pits and McLaren too were prevented from scoring constructors' points in the race as an extra punishment.
And British star Hamilton, 22, who admitted he did not let Alonso through when instructed earlier on during the session - probably causing the Spaniard's fury, said that no words have been exchanged by the pair, such is the ill-feeling.
"He doesn't seem to have been speaking to me since, so I don't know if he has a problem," said Hamilton, who inherited pole position following Alonso's penalty and went on to win the race while his team-mate was fourth.
"In terms of speaking to the team, I spoke to everyone, I have told everyone the situation, apologised if they feel I have done something against them but this is the way it is. It is higher than them if you know what I mean."
Team boss Ron Dennis has seen first-hand the way things have deteriorated since the North American double-header, after which Alonso admitted he was "not comfortable" with the balance within the team.
And he has now revealed that there is a distinct lack of trust between his pair, which was potentially the catalyst for the incidents in Hungary.
But he also insisted that it will not affect his determination to treat both drivers equally, despite it's affect on the Constructors' championship.
"There's a tremendous amount of tension in team and some mistrust too [between the drivers]," Dennis told ITV.
"It comes from having two drivers who are phenomenally competitive and who are heading the championship and looking for every advantage they can get in a system like ours that does not generate advantages.
"It's tough for us but we will not deviate away from equality. It's the foundation of the company.
Hamilton's victory was McLaren's sixth of the season and extended his championship lead over Alonso from two points to seven.
And with the nearest Ferrari rival, Kimi Raikkonen, now 20 points behind with only 60 still up for grabs, it seems that, barring a disaster in the next two races, the title will now be fought out between the pair.
Jamie O'Leary / Eurosport _________________________________________________ Ok dnt shoot me guys!!But Hamilton is not really the most kind and lovely person is on the circus of the Formula 1 I have nothing against the driver cos he's very good and if he ever win hats off...but he seems to be a little bit arrongant and this his first year...not that i care about Astronzo( ) ops sorry Alonso cos he always acted in the wrong way speaking too much. But i believe Hamilton needs to calm down just a bit
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Post by Vidic>Superman on Aug 7, 2007 7:02:17 GMT
That is how he should be. You don't want a driver who is just a push over. The fact that it is his first season doesn't mean he should bend over back wards for his team mate. He wants to do as well as he can as he is so passionate about the sport. I don't think Hamilton is a particularly arrogant guy to be honest he is very down to earth, tells it how it is.
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Post by kokka78 on Aug 7, 2007 11:25:43 GMT
That is how he should be. You don't want a driver who is just a push over. The fact that it is his first season doesn't mean he should bend over back wards for his team mate. He wants to do as well as he can as he is so passionate about the sport. I don't think Hamilton is a particularly arrogant guy to be honest he is very down to earth, tells it how it is. no no im not saying he shouldn't try to win or give any advantage to Astronzo lol but u know many in the circus like Rosberg who knows Hamilton pretty well said he's not nicest person in the world and let's be honest he loves doing all this tricks against Astronzo which is good cos i dnt like the driver neither the person...but he needs to calm down no rushing the things as he's doing know we knows he's a good driver but at the moment all the McClaren is a joke from the spy story to the internal was between the 2 drivers....Maybe Kimi will win...awwwww Kimi he's my fav (sorry )
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Post by fletchabey on Aug 7, 2007 15:07:22 GMT
well hamilton is from stevenage so he's genetically a twat Still Alonso seems to be the stroppy arrogant wanker to me, Hamilton just aint backing down.
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Post by jigglymarina on Aug 16, 2007 18:56:09 GMT
Typpical Alonso - so arrogant! He thinks he's like a new Senna, or something... I think Hamilton is much more talented than Alonso. I mean, he's only a rookie and look at what he's accomplished so far! it took Alonso a few seasons to start winning. Anyway, I'm a huge Ferrari fan myself, would love to see Kimmi win the championship. But in the event Hamilton wins, I won't be too sad either :-)
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Post by Vidic>Superman on Aug 19, 2007 19:03:31 GMT
I think it'll be good for the sport as a whole if Lewis wins the title instead of Alonso winning it for the third year in a row. It would make it wide open and would stop Alonso doing a Schumacher and going onto winning over and over again. It would definately make it better to watch.
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Post by jigglymarina on Aug 19, 2007 19:15:04 GMT
I think it'll be good for the sport as a whole if Lewis wins the title instead of Alonso winning it for the third year in a row. It would make it wide open and would stop Alonso doing a Schumacher and going onto winning over and over again. It would definately make it better to watch. I agree. It's quite open as it is, someone else instead of Alonso should definitely win.
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Post by Vidic>Superman on Aug 20, 2007 8:15:28 GMT
I think it'll be good for the sport as a whole if Lewis wins the title instead of Alonso winning it for the third year in a row. It would make it wide open and would stop Alonso doing a Schumacher and going onto winning over and over again. It would definately make it better to watch. I agree. It's quite open as it is, someone else instead of Alonso should definitely win. Someone other than Alonso winnning the title would make it even more open.
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Post by Vidic>Superman on Aug 23, 2007 21:44:44 GMT
Mercedes boss Norbert Haug has once again insisted that Fernando Alonso is not leaving McLaren at the end of the season.
Following a tense weekend in Hungary, rumours emerged that Alonso could well be on his way out at the end of the season.
These were backed up by claims that McLaren team boss Ron Dennis had even told the Spaniard that he could leave if he wanted to with Renault being his most likely destination.
However, Haug insists Alonso is not going anywhere.
"There is a contract. And in Hungary, without anyone asking for it, he confirmed to me verbally that he will fulfill it," Haug told AS.
As for the on-going intra-team battle between Alonso and Lewis Hamilton, Haug insists: "It is positive."
However, he does concede that "in Hungary it was not."
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Post by Vidic>Superman on Aug 25, 2007 14:03:31 GMT
Ferrari's Felipe Massa has claimed pole position for Sunday's Turkish Grand Prix, ahead of championship leader Lewis Hamilton.
The Brazilian driver, who scored his first F1 win from pole in last year's race, lapped the 5.338km Istanbul Park circuit in a time of one minute 27.329 seconds, with Hamilton 0.044 seconds slower.
Massa's team-mate Kimi Raikkonen will start the race third on the grid, with Hamilton's McLaren team-mate, world champion Fernando Alonso, fourth fastest.
There was none of the controversy that surrounded the 'fuel burn' phase of final qualifying in Hungary, when Hamilton's refusal to allow Alonso past him saw the latter retaliate in the pitlane as they set their 'flying' laps.
Instead, Hamilton circled behind Raikkonen, while Alonso took position further back in the pack.
Raikkonen initially went quickest with a 1:27.546s, but Massa then beat him with a 1:27.520s, with Hamilton placed fourth behind Alonso, some four-tenths-of-a-second off the pace.
However, Raikkonen's chances of snatching pole were then spoiled by a slight mistake on his final lap, with Hamilton briefly topping the timesheet before Massa trumped them both.
Meanwhile, Alonso ended the final session 0.245s down, ahead of the BMW Sauber pairing of Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld.
Renault's Heikki Kovalainen was seventh fastest, ahead of Williams driver Nico Rosberg, with Toyota's Jarno Trulli and Renault's Giancarlo Fisichella rounding out the top 10.
Alonso had earlier set the quickest lap of the weekend, a 1:26.841s, to emerge quickest in the low-fuel second qualifying session.
But star of the knock-out sessions was arguably Super Aguri's Anthony Davidson who, after briefly going eighth quickest with a banzai lap in Q2, eventually settled for a still creditable 11th place on the grid.
Davidson will therefore start eight places ahead of team-mate Takuma Sato, with Toyota's Ralf Schumacher - 18th quickest - similarly shaded by team-mate Trulli.
Elsewhere, Red Bull's David Coulthard will start in 13th place, behind team-mate Mark Webber, while Jenson Button qualified 15th, one place behind Honda team-mate Rubens Barrichello.
Turkish Grand Prix, qualifying:
1. Felipe Massa (Brazil) Ferrari 1 min 27.329 secs 2. Lewis Hamilton (Britain) McLaren 1:27.373 3. Kimi Raikkonen (Finland) Ferrari 1:27.546 4. Fernando Alonso (Spain) McLaren 1:27.574 5. Robert Kubica (Poland) BMW Sauber 1:27.722 6. Nick Heidfeld (Germany) BMW Sauber 1:28.037 7. Heikki Kovalainen (Finland) Renault 1:28.491 8. Nico Rosberg (Germany) Williams - Toyota 1:28.501 9. Jarno Trulli (Italy) Toyota 1:28.740 10. Giancarlo Fisichella (Italy) Renault 1:29.322 11. Anthony Davidson (Britain) Super Aguri - Honda 1:28.002 12. Mark Webber (Australia) RedBull - Renault 1:28.013 13. David Coulthard (Britain) RedBull - Renault 1:28.100 14. Rubens Barrichello (Brazil) Honda 1:28.188 15. Jenson Button (Britain) Honda 1:28.220 16. Alexander Wurz (Austria) Williams - Toyota 1:28.390 17. Vitantonio Liuzzi (Italy) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:28.798 18. Ralf Schumacher (Germany) Toyota 1:28.809 19. Takuma Sato (Japan) Super Aguri - Honda 1:28.953 20. Sebastian Vettel (Germany) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:29.408 21. Adrian Sutil (Germany) Spyker - Ferrari 1:29.861 22. Sakon Yamamoto (Japan) Spyker - Ferrari 1:31.479
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Post by kokka78 on Aug 25, 2007 14:10:08 GMT
Mmmm Raikkonen v Alonso lets hope in a good start for Kimi!!
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Post by Vidic>Superman on Aug 25, 2007 16:22:01 GMT
Will be very intresting to see what happens to the top four at the first corner of the race. Could be very dramatic.
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Post by jigglymarina on Aug 26, 2007 18:53:29 GMT
Go team Ferrari!!! So glad they got 18 points. Although, Lewis should've come in 3rd instead of cocky Alonso
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Post by kokka78 on Aug 26, 2007 18:55:57 GMT
damn it ASTRONZO came third i hate that lucky bastard
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