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Post by Kamilo on Aug 7, 2024 20:14:32 GMT
Don’t turn RoM into Twitter boys there’s no sense in waging a keyboard war. In this or the US politics thread.
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Post by Stew on Aug 7, 2024 20:23:40 GMT
Don’t turn RoM into Twitter boys there’s no sense in waging a keyboard war. In this or the US politics thread. You’ll have to look hard to find a more peaceful thread than the US politics one. Pretty much everyone posting in there despises Trump and all he stands for. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Aug 8, 2024 8:19:10 GMT
If you argue the points, then it should remain civil, the problem is everyone makes it personal on both sides.
If anything comes out of this, it should be a cast iron determination on the part of Labour to deal with immigration as a priority. Since Brexit, its exploded.
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Post by Karma on Aug 8, 2024 9:14:07 GMT
I lived in Oldham before and after the riots over 20 years ago.
For anyone living there what happened wasn’t a surprise.
We knew about those with Asian heritage being attacked and whites getting the same. I worked in the hospital and heard things and concerns being dismissed by the council.
I worked the night shift as a staff nurse when it kicked off and those injured were being treated.
We’ve learned absolutely nothing since then imo.
Same shite 20 years later , different ‘leadership’. ☹️
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Post by redcase on Aug 8, 2024 9:41:03 GMT
If you argue the points, then it should remain civil, the problem is everyone makes it personal on both sides. If anything comes out of this, it should be a cast iron determination on the part of Labour to deal with immigration as a priority. Since Brexit, its exploded. Discussions end when one asks the other if he wore a mask to the riots. Your point is spot on though. I however find it strange to hear that immigration exploded since brexit. I would have imagined brexit would have done the opposite considering how curbing immigration was one of the main reasons why people went for it in the first place. |
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Post by Karma on Aug 8, 2024 10:31:41 GMT
Brexit is an easy target.
It’s like the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Arab Spring never happened and the consequences arising from that haven’t caused a direct trickle from those events.
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Post by caino on Aug 8, 2024 10:48:10 GMT
discussions need to be held.
immigration is a real problem and it does need tackling ASAP.
but it needs to happen in the correct way, but our government isn't interested in controlled migration. they're working for the WEF and they want to cause civil unrest to implement further laws and keep us all in a status of fear.
all sides need to resist the baiting and work together and have better understanding of each other. we need to realise the real problems are our governments, media, police and their masters in WEF / DAVOS / etc.
militant camps on both sides need correcting. militant islam is a real issue. not all islam but there is sects within their religious organisations that are a real danger and their own communities need to correct this otherwise they will all get tarnished unfortunately.
common folk have more in common with each other regardless of race and religion, than we do of those in power.
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Post by johnboy14 on Aug 8, 2024 11:28:13 GMT
Brexit is an easy target. It’s like the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Arab Spring never happened and the consequences arising from that haven’t caused a direct trickle from those events. It's a great point this. The behaviour of the CIA over the last half century in central America has contributed massively to the problems on their southern border but its never mentioned by people like Trump. Same here in Europe with our actions in the middle East. |
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Post by soapy on Aug 8, 2024 22:12:28 GMT
discussions need to be held. immigration is a real problem and it does need tackling ASAP. but it needs to happen in the correct way, but our government isn't interested in controlled migration. they're working for the WEF and they want to cause civil unrest to implement further laws and keep us all in a status of fear. all sides need to resist the baiting and work together and have better understanding of each other. we need to realise the real problems are our governments, media, police and their masters in WEF / DAVOS / etc. militant camps on both sides need correcting. militant islam is a real issue. not all islam but there is sects within their religious organisations that are a real danger and their own communities need to correct this otherwise they will all get tarnished unfortunately. common folk have more in common with each other regardless of race and religion, than we do of those in power. The media have needed sorting for god knows how many years but still people suck up whatever uncle Rupert etc feed them. Plus, I think social media has delivered a coup de grace to any form of intelligent discourse on the whole. Once you have Musk and Zuckerberg essentially refusing to acknowledge any issue whatsoever then we’re completely through the looking glass. |
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Post by Stretty on Aug 9, 2024 6:21:09 GMT
discussions need to be held. immigration is a real problem and it does need tackling ASAP. but it needs to happen in the correct way, but our government isn't interested in controlled migration. they're working for the WEF and they want to cause civil unrest to implement further laws and keep us all in a status of fear. all sides need to resist the baiting and work together and have better understanding of each other. we need to realise the real problems are our governments, media, police and their masters in WEF / DAVOS / etc. militant camps on both sides need correcting. militant islam is a real issue. not all islam but there is sects within their religious organisations that are a real danger and their own communities need to correct this otherwise they will all get tarnished unfortunately. common folk have more in common with each other regardless of race and religion, than we do of those in power. Good post. The issue for me is if anyone raises the point of immigration being too high instantly gets accused of being racist or far right(that’s why most politicians have treated it like a hot potato and have refused to even discuss it for decades). being concerned about mass immigration doesn’t make them anti immigration. its the same scenario woth the NHS(any politician who wants to reform it is accused of wanting to abolish it). Had mainstream parties got to grips with this issue then there would have been no need to Reform UK who over 4 million concerned people voted for(but they are dismissed as thick nuckle dragging racists which is absolute bollocks). |
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Post by aussiegraham on Aug 9, 2024 6:51:29 GMT
I lived in Oldham before and after the riots over 20 years ago. For anyone living there what happened wasn’t a surprise. We knew about those with Asian heritage being attacked and whites getting the same. I worked in the hospital and heard things and concerns being dismissed by the council. I worked the night shift as a staff nurse when it kicked off and those injured were being treated. We’ve learned absolutely nothing since then imo. Same shite 20 years later , different ‘leadership’. ☹️ During my time as an RN in Chatham, Kent, in the early 80’s all morning shift staff were kept back one Saturday after we’d officially finished to be deployed if needed due to riots in town. Can’t really remember much except the trouble was a knock-on from somewhere else in the country and was fired up by a live news feed that lunch time. Of course, word spreads so much faster these days that idiots can be called to arms at the push of a button! |
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Aug 9, 2024 8:42:23 GMT
Farage has been noted as being a fascist from his university days. So whether folk like it or not, a vote for Reform is a vote for a fascist, racist leader at the very least.
I don’t believe everyone who voted for them is necessarily racist and I do think it’s ok to have concerns about immigration. But those conversations need to be sensible and had with the type of empathy that certain politicians/people in the media won’t allow to happen.
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Post by caino on Aug 9, 2024 9:00:06 GMT
the Uk now arresting people for speaking online. we are in a dictatorship. the UK convict 3400 over the course of the year for inflammatory posts on social media, compared to 300 convictions in Russia. the UK is a total cesspit and i wish i could leave
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Post by Stretty on Aug 9, 2024 9:45:10 GMT
Farage has been noted as being a fascist from his university days. So whether folk like it or not, a vote for Reform is a vote for a fascist, racist leader at the very least.I don’t believe everyone who voted for them is necessarily racist and I do think it’s ok to have concerns about immigration. But those conversations need to be sensible and had with the type of empathy that certain politicians/people in the media won’t allow to happen. Utter rubbish. dont forget reforms chairman and biggest doner is a Muslim. |
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Post by redcase on Aug 9, 2024 10:05:25 GMT
the Uk now arresting people for speaking online. we are in a dictatorship. the UK convict 3400 over the course of the year for inflammatory posts on social media, compared to 300 convictions in Russia. the UK is a total cesspit and i wish i could leave I’m not about to shed a tear for racist bigots who incite hatred and division online, leading to violence. They belong in jail. Also, why not make a trip to Russia and let us know how it is? It must be great, seeing as Russia has experienced the largest exodus of citizens in modern history over the past year. |
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