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Post by Bestie on Feb 26, 2020 8:20:35 GMT
According to MEN, you can forget Poch or Allegri for the foreseeable future. This quote was part of a larger piece. It seems Ed actually believes his own bullshit about cultural reboots and giving Ole time. ‘ United set an unenviable precedent by sacking David Moyes and Louis van Gaal when they both failed to deliver upon the target set upon them, and the same has to apply to Solskjaer. His inexperience as a coach, coupled with the positive style of play, should grant him more time to prove himself at Old Trafford than his predecessors, but a failure to secure Champions League football by the end of next season would ultimately have to be his undoing’ "positive style of play" being "hoping the other team allows us to counter attack until we actually score a chance and hope they don't score in the meantime"?
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Post by ratbag on Feb 26, 2020 8:40:03 GMT
I have believed quite recently that Woodward isn't going to sack Ole and that our chance to get a genuinely good / great manager will pass us by...
Yet another fuck up to lay at Woodward's door...
We will seriously regret this if it happens...
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Post by juanveron on Feb 26, 2020 10:10:03 GMT
I have believed quite recently that Woodward isn't going to sack Ole and that our chance to get a genuinely good / great manager will pass us by... Yet another fuck up to lay at Woodward's door... We will seriously regret this if it happens... I think that far better managers are available or are attainable right now, which should be enough to make us make the necessary decision. That being said, if he does get CL football with this squad it won’t be an obvious achievement. Regardless, you can be sure that Ed will make the wrong decision.
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Post by ratbag on Feb 26, 2020 14:39:33 GMT
I have believed quite recently that Woodward isn't going to sack Ole and that our chance to get a genuinely good / great manager will pass us by... Yet another fuck up to lay at Woodward's door... We will seriously regret this if it happens... I think that far better managers are available or are attainable right now, which should be enough to make us make the necessary decision. That being said, if he does get CL football with this squad it won’t be an obvious achievement. Regardless, you can be sure that Ed will make the wrong decision. At least that is one thing upon which we can always rely...
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Post by Stretty on Feb 26, 2020 15:26:41 GMT
According to MEN, you can forget Poch or Allegri for the foreseeable future. This quote was part of a larger piece. It seems Ed actually believes his own bullshit about cultural reboots and giving Ole time. ‘ United set an unenviable precedent by sacking David Moyes and Louis van Gaal when they both failed to deliver upon the target set upon them, and the same has to apply to Solskjaer. His inexperience as a coach, coupled with the positive style of play, should grant him more time to prove himself at Old Trafford than his predecessors, but a failure to secure Champions League football by the end of next season would ultimately have to be his undoing’ As said before.... we we will be looking for a manager around Christmas but the top gettable ones will be at new clubs in the summer. one thing Utd are at the moment is fucking predictable.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Mar 9, 2020 12:33:42 GMT
Still don’t know if Ole is the long term answer but at least he’s laying a good foundation by winning big games. The fact we did the league double over both Chelsea and city and beat them twice away is very impressive. If he can clear out more deadweight in Jones, Lingard, Pereira and Sanchez then he’s doing exactly what we all wanted to do. In 3 years time we may be looking at the derby win as the moment things turned around for us.
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Post by JamBritRed on Mar 9, 2020 15:51:34 GMT
Ole has that ability to keep you second guessing yourself, especially based on his results against the more "direct" Prem rivals.
i still believe there are better options out there, but the recent form has been very promising.
I'm still thinking that moving Ole into that Director of Football roll (as he clearly knows how to recruit and more importantly what type of players are needed) and putting in a Poch or Allegri as manager/first team coach would be the best option for the restructured technical management set-up.
Ole works well with Ed and has show to be willing to cover for him at times, so Ed shouldn't be too against keeping him on as said cover for when Ed inevitably does an Ed, tells the world he going after a top shelf target, say Harry Kane for example, and spends most of the summer looking all googly eyed only to be left out to dry, again.
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Post by Stretty on Mar 9, 2020 16:53:05 GMT
It would be best to review at the end of the season as we are still fighting on 3 fronts.
My concern is still his in game managment(I think mcsauce came on after around 75 mins but he probobally should have been on at around 60 as we where starting to get overrun in the middle).
As said lets see how the season pans out.
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Post by mightyez on Mar 9, 2020 17:40:10 GMT
Let’s enjoy Ole and the upward trajectory whilst it’s here. Him and the players have done very well recently
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Post by Bestie on Mar 9, 2020 18:11:07 GMT
We all got giddy after Paris. Let's not do the same this year.
Enjoy the ups when they come. Hopefully a couple of Cups and move in the summer.
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Post by JamBritRed on Mar 9, 2020 18:19:51 GMT
We all got giddy after Paris. Let's not do the same this year. Enjoy the ups when they come. Hopefully a couple of Cups and move in the summer. But honestly Bestie, isn't there a bit if the SAF vibe going on here? and by that i mean, because of our history with SAF and what giving him time produced, dont you get an inkling that there may be a similar thing happening with Ole? It's so hard to tell what the real problem is, is it him or the fact that the squad isn't complete? i still, genuinely, don't know the answer to this question.
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Post by Bestie on Mar 9, 2020 21:34:15 GMT
We all got giddy after Paris. Let's not do the same this year. Enjoy the ups when they come. Hopefully a couple of Cups and move in the summer. But honestly Bestie, isn't there a bit if the SAF vibe going on here? and by that i mean, because of our history with SAF and what giving him time produced, dont you get an inkling that there may be a similar thing happening with Ole? No.
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Post by Diablo Rouge on Mar 9, 2020 21:43:49 GMT
But honestly Bestie, isn't there a bit if the SAF vibe going on here? and by that i mean, because of our history with SAF and what giving him time produced, dont you get an inkling that there may be a similar thing happening with Ole? No. 🤣🤣
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Post by GeniusCantona on Mar 10, 2020 1:08:48 GMT
We all got giddy after Paris. Let's not do the same this year. Enjoy the ups when they come. Hopefully a couple of Cups and move in the summer. This is true but you can argue that the initial bounce we had with Ole was the “anyone but Jose” group in our squad that were already flawed from a work ethic and personally stand point re: Lingard, Sanchez and Pogba. But this time around it’s Ole’s signings and players who have bought into his demands like Shaw, Fred and arguably Martial. We complained about work ethic with this group but one thing Ole has done has got this team working hard for each other and they seem to be mirroring his personality.
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Post by aussiegraham on Mar 10, 2020 4:18:48 GMT
If he ships out the bludgers/talentless and is able to bring in replacements of his choice, then I think the future would look a lot brighter than it has for several years.
He’s obviously not totally incompetent judging by some of the results he’s already achieved with his wafer-thin squad, and as long as he’s learning quickly and is advised by the right, tactically savvy coaching team, I’m all for letting him continue.
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