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Post by Stretty on Dec 8, 2020 21:02:24 GMT
Even if we end up winning this.
He needs fucking off ASAP
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Post by Stretty on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:01 GMT
Bump
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Post by kstandhand on Dec 8, 2020 22:04:36 GMT
🤡
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Post by Paul on Dec 8, 2020 23:29:36 GMT
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Post by kstandhand on Dec 9, 2020 5:31:27 GMT
The bloke is an absolute joke,needed a point from 2 games,he managed to lose both,conceded 6 goals,failed to react to tactical changes from opposition's manager in both games that ultimately cost us both games because he is bluffing it at this level & trying to learn in the job. He can’t open his mouth without coming out with something ridiculous ,so i think i’ll stick with my opinion of the manager 🤡
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Post by mightyez on Dec 9, 2020 5:52:38 GMT
Let’s all be honest the management in the last few games has been amateurish at times, there clearly is an issue. All this he is a legend talk needs to stop because je is no longer a football player, he is a manager and needs to be judged right now on his management not what he did as a player. If the criteria is on what they did, then get cantina, ruud heck even Rooney back as coaches.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Dec 9, 2020 6:04:49 GMT
Let’s all be honest the management in the last few games has been amateurish at times, there clearly is an issue. All this he is a legend talk needs to stop because je is no longer a football player, he is a manager and needs to be judged right now on his management not what he did as a player. If the criteria is on what they did, then get cantina, ruud heck even Rooney back as coaches. Agree with this , but not everyone who wants to give him a chance does it because he is a legend of the club. I supported him because it looks to me he is doing a lot of things right , because he mostly get rid of players who we all agreed was not good enough , almost all the attacking players seems to improve under him , his signings are mostly correct and in right age profile. His teams played some of the best football by United post Fergie. So even if tomorrow he is sacked he has already given a better platform for the next manager to succeed.
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Post by kstandhand on Dec 9, 2020 6:07:59 GMT
Let’s all be honest the management in the last few games has been amateurish at times, there clearly is an issue. All this he is a legend talk needs to stop because je is no longer a football player, he is a manager and needs to be judged right now on his management not what he did as a player. If the criteria is on what they did, then get cantina, ruud heck even Rooney back as coaches. Agree with this , but not everyone who wants to give him a chance does it because he is a legend of the club. I supported him because it looks to me he is doing a lot of things right , because he mostly get rid of players who we all agreed was not good enough , almost all the attacking players seems to improve under him , his signings are mostly correct and in right age profile. His teams played some of the best football by United post Fergie. So even if tomorrow he is sacked he has already given a better platform for the next manager to succeed. Difference of opinion is always healthy but i strongly disagree with almost every point you make.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Dec 9, 2020 6:17:55 GMT
Agree with this , but not everyone who wants to give him a chance does it because he is a legend of the club. I supported him because it looks to me he is doing a lot of things right , because he mostly get rid of players who we all agreed was not good enough , almost all the attacking players seems to improve under him , his signings are mostly correct and in right age profile. His teams played some of the best football by United post Fergie. So even if tomorrow he is sacked he has already given a better platform for the next manager to succeed. Difference of opinion is always healthy but i strongly disagree with almost every point you make. Come on mate , did you forget the endless passing from one end to the other end under LVG , him continuously starting rooney in the midfield , Jose playing Fellaini and hitting long balls hoping something will happen , do you really think greenwood will be starting matches if Jose was still managing us. Its one thing to say Ole has taken us as far as he can , but you cant tell he made absolutely no improvement.
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Post by juanveron on Dec 9, 2020 6:18:17 GMT
What concerns me is that I’m sure that whether it happens today, tomorrow, or when the season is over, Ole will not have long-term success as our manager (as in winning the fucking league, not just qualifying for the Championship League). There are currently 2 managers available who have at the very least a slightly better chance than him at achieving that.. and if we take too long to decide what to do, both will be taken.
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Post by kstandhand on Dec 9, 2020 7:11:58 GMT
Difference of opinion is always healthy but i strongly disagree with almost every point you make. Come on mate , did you forget the endless passing from one end to the other end under LVG , him continuously starting rooney in the midfield , Jose playing Fellaini and hitting long balls hoping something will happen , do you really think greenwood will be starting matches if Jose was still managing us. Its one thing to say Ole has taken us as far as he can , but you cant tell he made absolutely no improvement. I forget very little & I would take anything LVG & Jose served up over this other than Phil Jones on corners again. OGS has created a complete basket case of team,without any clear idea or system. You only have to look at last night to sum up his reign,pre match he said it was about big teams turning up & winning games when it mattered,we didn't. He only needed 1 point from two games,we lost both shipping 6. Before last night he said we couldn't play for a draw because that was not in our DNA,he then starts with a 5 & 8 defensive players in total,no wonder the players looked lost until 1/2 time.
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Post by caino on Dec 9, 2020 7:35:06 GMT
Seasons over. We we won’t be the CL again next year if we keep ole in charge. Get him gone ASAP. It’s getting beyond the joke. Go with some dignity in tact still.
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Post by kstandhand on Dec 9, 2020 7:46:24 GMT
Seasons over. We we won’t be the CL again next year if we keep ole in charge. Get him gone ASAP. It’s getting beyond the joke. Go with some dignity in tact still. Win it ,we won't be in it !
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Post by mightyez on Dec 9, 2020 8:03:14 GMT
Setting up the team so defensively sent the wrong message to the players and opposition. We have a Captain who for the life of me clearly has no authority as he should have been threatening players on that pitch. What more does dean need to do to get a run of games? Why was matic given such a long deal? The list is endless and last night was the last straw for me, I am sick of it. The task was simple but we fluffed it and this manager shows no tacticle acumen to do anything, all pure luck and that’s not good enough. Inexperienced manager and inexperienced coaches and this is the outcome.
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Post by keanosdog16 on Dec 9, 2020 8:44:12 GMT
Another thing with Ole is some of his pressers are all over the place, he doesn't articulate very so i wonder how he comes across to the players when giving instruction and tactical information.
In all honesty, i don't think he's been backed properly and the next manager won't be either but i think more can be gotten out of this squad with a modern manager and experienced back room team coming in, we need to refresh. Football moved on a few years ago now and we didn't
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