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Post by karthy on Aug 22, 2013 19:06:55 GMT
I'd really like to take a poll on how many don't fancy Welbeck just so we can have a go at them come end of the season. Joins the list of player prematurely dismissed
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Post by Boon on Aug 22, 2013 19:14:14 GMT
I'd really like to take a poll on how many don't fancy Welbeck just so we can have a go at them come end of the season. Joins the list of player prematurely dismissed I'm going to hold my hand up and say that I wrongly judged him at the start of pre -season He hasn't proven me wrong yet but he's done a good job in the last while. His problem was always scoring goals.His build up play was always brilliant but he now seems to have gotten over that and his finishing looks superb.
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Post by alt on Aug 22, 2013 19:30:22 GMT
I could be putting 2+2=5 together here but if Chelsea sign Willian then surely they must be selling one of the top players? No way will they keep Oscar, Hazard, Mata, De Bruyne, Schurrle and Willian all happy. To me that could equal Rooney going to them with us getting Mata + cash? Seems odd timing that a report comes out about us talking to Chelsea on Monday about Mata / Rooney and now they put a bid in for Willian when he's literally signing on the dotted line?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 19:50:41 GMT
If Chelsea get Willian then it could be the "plan b"Jose was reffering to with getting Rooney. Either way getting Willian (another pointless transfer) is going to upset one of the big players.
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Post by alt on Aug 22, 2013 20:01:20 GMT
If Chelsea get Willian then it could be the "plan b"Jose was reffering to with getting Rooney. Either way getting Willian (another pointless transfer) is going to upset one of the big players. Nah plan b and c is Eto'o and Yilmaz.
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Post by stilgar on Aug 22, 2013 20:52:27 GMT
I'd really like to take a poll on how many don't fancy Welbeck just so we can have a go at them come end of the season. Joins the list of player prematurely dismissed I'm going to hold my hand up and say that I wrongly judged him at the start of pre -season He hasn't proven me wrong yet but he's done a good job in the last while. His problem was always scoring goals.His build up play was always brilliant but he now seems to have gotten over that and his finishing looks superb. He is still very young. If nothing goes wrong in 3-5 years he can be hell of a player.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Aug 23, 2013 5:21:13 GMT
In my opinion Welbz isn't a 10, his first touch, ball retention and range of passing, in addition to the creativeness of his passing isn't up to what we need. Kagawa, now there's a 10. We're off topic so I'll just say this, I at no point suggest Kagawa is not a superior number 10, but you underate Welbeck. Then again thats been pretty endemic on these boards this summer, I don't really want to get drawn into it, he'll be showing it for himself this season. Back on topic, we have no reason to sell to Chelsea. We don't have too if we don't want too and we shouldn't want too. they are grossly mistaken if they think they can nudge up from a paltry £25mill for him. We're Manchester United and we can afford to let him wind down his contract if we so wish. They paid £50mill for a striker whose always been an inferior player to him. Not to mention he's intrinsically valuable to the club and one of the most marketable players in the world. We shouldn't even entertain them for less than £60million in my opinion and judging from Chelsea comments, they seem unlikely to go that far. And its not like we can say we've already strengthened thoroughly enough, because money in the bank means fuck all to me, I care about the squad. Also part of me wants us have a good showing on stamping down on player power, as is seems Liverpool may be doing with Suarez. We keep saying hes simply not for sale and I wont be surprised if thats the simple truth. But I'm not underrating Welbeck? I simply said IMO he's not a 10, given the above mentioned are required in that position more than just the average player, look at the very best. Fairly sure the coaching staff have kept saying he's a CF too. Anyway.
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Post by NR7 on Aug 23, 2013 6:27:29 GMT
RVP is 30.. Eventually, Welbz will replace him.. Between No 10 and floater from the wings, Danny will get enough game time and continue his development.. Love the lad's attitude. Just gets on with it and works his socks off everytime..
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Post by NR7 on Aug 23, 2013 6:33:37 GMT
Say renties replace Mata with Willian and sign potato, would Mata improve us more than Roo will Chelsea? I'm starting to have my doubts.. If Ozil is available as rumoured, we shoud just sign him instead..
Oh n btw, Willian as Plan B does not make sense. Seeing as he is CAM and Roo will be leading the line?
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Post by traffordbrown on Aug 23, 2013 6:36:23 GMT
Say renties replace Mata with Willian and sign potato, would Mata improve us more than Roo will Chelsea? I'm starting to have my doubts.. If Ozil is available as rumoured, we shoud just sign him instead.. Oh n btw, Willian as Plan B does not make sense. Seeing as he is CAM and Roo will be leading the line? Will.I.Am isnt the plan B
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Post by NR7 on Aug 23, 2013 6:42:16 GMT
Say renties replace Mata with Willian and sign potato, would Mata improve us more than Roo will Chelsea? I'm starting to have my doubts.. If Ozil is available as rumoured, we shoud just sign him instead.. Oh n btw, Willian as Plan B does not make sense. Seeing as he is CAM and Roo will be leading the line? Will.I.Am isnt the plan B Thought as much but was mentioned in a few places to be the case..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 7:25:09 GMT
I'd really like to take a poll on how many don't fancy Welbeck just so we can have a go at them come end of the season. Joins the list of player prematurely dismissed Add me to the list, I just don't think Welbeck is that good.... BUT if someone has a go at me, ill just delete the thread and ban them muahahahahahahahah
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Post by Bestie on Aug 23, 2013 9:04:56 GMT
Say renties replace Mata with Willian and sign potato, would Mata improve us more than Roo will Chelsea? I'm starting to have my doubts.. If Ozil is available as rumoured, we shoud just sign him instead.. Oh n btw, Willian as Plan B does not make sense. Seeing as he is CAM and Roo will be leading the line? Will.I.Am isnt the plan B Isn't he Black Eyed Peas?
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Aug 23, 2013 9:44:47 GMT
Imagine this:
Rooney scores, doesn't celebrate.
The crowd are tense as hell as Fat Frank converts a penalty won by Torres, continuing his tormenting of Vidic from his days with the scum. It's so predictable.
3 minutes into stoppage time, RVP hammers one from outside the box. Deflection.
Who did it come off? Mata. He wheels away, surprisingly, away from the Chelsea section of fans and where is he heading? The Stretty.
United players, Rooney excluded, jump on top of him as the players (& Mata) celebrate the last gasp winner.
Mourinho complains about the added time.
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Post by mocthezuma on Aug 23, 2013 9:47:53 GMT
Will.I.Am isnt the plan B Isn't he Black Eyed Peas? No, you fool. That's Fergie.
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