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Post by Bestie on Jan 17, 2014 11:12:46 GMT
Teehee. Toffee Fan Dan was right about man (management).
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Post by Tatty on Jan 17, 2014 11:13:47 GMT
Moyes is worried a move back to anywhere close to London will set him back into old habits. He's not putting the effort into training like AJ44, hence not getting playing time. I think he's got a case of the Sturridges and reckons he's made it before he's actually done anything. |
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Post by ratbag on Jan 17, 2014 11:23:18 GMT
Moyes is worried a move back to anywhere close to London will set him back into old habits. He's not putting the effort into training like AJ44, hence not getting playing time. I think he's got a case of the Sturridges and reckons he's made it before he's actually done anything. Fair enough, tatty but a manager worth his salt would be all over this I'd have thought - especially as he has been here for months.... He must be really frustrated and wondering wtf he has to do to get a run out...and a move to Cardiff on loan is nowhere near London...same with WBA.... |
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Post by Bestie on Jan 17, 2014 11:27:40 GMT
Considering on-field performances, Young, Giggs, and Nani when fit must have been ruling all and everything before them in training.
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Post by NR7 on Jan 17, 2014 16:25:01 GMT
What tatty said makes sense but here is my problem:
Jose - Dropped Hazard and went public on the reason.
Wenger - After Wilshere was caught, told media that he will deal appropriately.
Whatever was said and actions taken behind the scenes in both cases, clearly worked. Them players are turning in superb performances.
DM?? Freeze the fuck out. Zaha's confidence is shattered and one can understand if it's reflected in training.
Not everyone can be a Chicha. One size fits all treatment seldom works and the stubborn ass stance can only be detrimental.
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Post by reefer on Jan 17, 2014 16:31:44 GMT
Find this shocking if Moyes doesn't play him, even before the window shuts..... In any case if Nani was fit I thought he was on his way out....
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Post by reefer on Jan 17, 2014 16:35:27 GMT
Moyes is worried a move back to anywhere close to London will set him back into old habits. He's not putting the effort into training like AJ44, hence not getting playing time. I think he's got a case of the Sturridges and reckons he's made it before he's actually done anything. So a good man manager will put an arm around him, give him a talking to or a boot up the arse, not isolate him or ship out a talent like he has.... especially seeing that we dont exactly have quality players in front of him! This is just wrong..... |
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Post by redcase on Jan 17, 2014 18:19:37 GMT
I am quite disappointed with the way this Zaha issue has been handled. Like others said, there have been literally no reasons given by Moyes as to why Zaha cannot get a game for us even as a sub. Is it really the right method to take? Stamping his authority like this? I'm not so sure. Moyes has no credentials himself to speak of that he demand respect in this manner. Quite disappointed and confused to a degree too.
If Zaha is behaving the way Tatty said he has, then a loan move would be best for both parties concerned isn't it? He finds his drive playing for another club and gets a breather from stuff here and comes back rejuvenated and wanting a slice of the big league action and Moyes gets a player willing to work hard for trophies .
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just so disappointed that a player of his calibre cannot be motivated by our staff. Reaffirms to a certain extent what I said about Moyes' abilities as a motivator . Not being able to get one of the best young talents in the country to want to play for you is quite poor for a Manchester United manager.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jan 18, 2014 9:00:38 GMT
Feel for the lad, the WC is just around the corner and he could realistically be on the plane if he had the loan approved.
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Post by Bestie on Jan 18, 2014 13:44:04 GMT
Particularly with Walcott biting the dust again.
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Post by reefer on Jan 19, 2014 2:26:30 GMT
If this report has any truth behind it, then Im sorry but Moyes is a shit man manager and I could not care one bit if he fails and gets the sack. If there is truth behind it, not only has he destroyed the lads confidence but other team members will be witness to it and for sure its going to affect them as well. Could be part of the reason we are not playing as a team, if Moyes is singling out players like this... Fucking shock once again to hear this shit. Have we become shitty of the past 3 seasons...  www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2541926/Angry-Wilfried-Zaha-wants-claims-Manchester-United-did-U-turn-Cardiff-City-loan.htmlEdit: The guy is not even going down to the rents game..... Fucking manager is shit..... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 12:06:03 GMT
he must of nailed moyes daughter then
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 20:52:56 GMT
Even if it is true and Zaha did bang his daughter, so what?
She's not fucking 13, she's a grown woman. Jesus, you not bang birds when you were younger like Davey?
Actually, I've seen your photo from when you were Zaha's age, so no, no you probably didn't.
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Post by mightyez on Jan 19, 2014 21:08:18 GMT
He did his daughter, confirmed. There is some real bad blood with the 2 my mates says. ( he is buddies with wilf)
I haven't heard anyone question the lads behaviour, this is no Morrison or mikel with an entourage by all accounts he is a good kid who just wants a chance.
Let's be honest this wouldn't happen at barca, bayern or Madrid someone would be having a quiet word with the manager or sack him after the appalling performance so far.
Just look at badebayor at spurs
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Post by stretfordend ryda on Jan 19, 2014 22:25:42 GMT
He did his daughter, confirmed. There is some real bad blood with the 2 my mates says. ( he is buddies with wilf) I haven't heard anyone question the lads behaviour, this is no Morrison or mikel with an entourage by all accounts he is a good kid who just wants a chance. Let's be honest this wouldn't happen at barca, bayern or Madrid someone would be having a quiet word with the manager or sack him after the appalling performance so far. Just look at badebayor at spurs When did moyes daughter confirm this? |
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