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Post by reefer on Jan 21, 2014 17:30:36 GMT
Pretty sure 'the guy above you' was me, and I wasn't comparing Zaha to Ronaldo. I was using Ronaldo as an example of someone many said 'had no end product' but with first team experience and more importantly playing time, improved dramatically. There is only one player at our club who is comparable to Ronaldo to such an extent that you can use him as an example in a discussion. And it's Adnan Januzaj. The video you have means nothing, because any one on this planet can put video clips together of any world class player including Ronaldo, showing no end product. Do you think Ronaldo has never given a throw in, or given the ball away, or ever been tackled and lost the ball! I would like to believe you wouldn't think that and therefore I could knock up some clips of those actions and simply label it, Ronaldo has no end product... What would you say to my little video? Yes I agree! No obviously not, yet I would argue its there in the video... Therefore your video shows nothing... When I view videos of players I never make that my only reason to like or dislike a player. Its more of a snap shot of a player..... My god do a video of Bebe and the few goals he has scored in his life time and you could label that "world class player found" uhhh NOT! |
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Post by reefer on Jan 21, 2014 17:42:00 GMT
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Post by karthy on Jan 21, 2014 19:03:39 GMT
the thing that's been disturbing about Zaha apart from DM not giving him a place in the team or starting are the rumors that he ain't working hard enough and is already under the impression that he is done and arrived. I hope that is not true cos he still has miles to go and does need to putin the hard work and hone his skills. Perhaps that's the reason why DM isn't featuring him - may be maybe not. Must say tho he should huge promise with Palace and am still hoping that he can go onto show bigger better things with us And those couldn't possibly be a plant by the club to cover the fact Moyes isn't giving him a chance because Zaha nailed the manager's daughter? HashtagTinhats perhaps but that would mean that there are some intelligent peeps up in the Club who can think and put the media to good use - not buying that. but, i will say this have not seen or heard DM's daughter come out and deny these as much as Zaha as  , think it was reported that she denied it once but seriously to be regularly linked in the spotlight with some guy - you'd have to a Kardashian to be ok with it. She could put a stop to this thing if it ain't true i suppose |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 0:19:34 GMT
Bebe's a nuisance. He can score some fucking magic goals but in reality he's only a youtube highlight clip player |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 0:24:35 GMT
Bebe's a nuisance. He can score some fucking magic goals but in reality he's only a youtube highlight clip player He'll have a good career in the Portugese top flight. Nuff said |
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Post by Chris on Jan 22, 2014 14:50:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 14:55:00 GMT
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Post by Tatty on Jan 22, 2014 14:58:53 GMT
Turned up late for trianing every day this month. Allegedly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 14:59:48 GMT
Turned up late for trianing every day this month. Allegedly. Oh dear |
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Post by Trystiano Ronaldo on Jan 22, 2014 15:04:27 GMT
Turned up late for trianing every day this month. Allegedly. Should this be true then I don't blame Moyes for not playing him. Would be a dangerous precedent to set. |
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Post by Tatty on Jan 22, 2014 15:08:58 GMT
Turned up late for trianing every day this month. Allegedly. Should this be true then I don't blame Moyes for not playing him. Would be a dangerous precedent to set. Agreed. Anyone on here who did that in 'real life' would be out the door, and on the dole queue. |
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Post by Bestie on Jan 22, 2014 15:11:28 GMT
Maybe Zaha is disillusioned with the way Moyes has treated him considering our regular-playing wingers have been atrocious.
Doesn't excuse turning up late all the time; not the way to deal with it properly. Still, you can understand the lad's frustration.
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Post by mightyez on Jan 22, 2014 15:32:58 GMT
Hmmm if that's the case then that's bad of him. The flipside is pig a watched fergie okay Rafael in midfield rather than give him a chance and he left and look at him now. Zaha will watch the dross of Nani, Valencia and young on the wings and think I'm off and be the world beater we hoped he would be when we bought him. Moyes management is archaic sometimes an arm around a player works sometimes hardline works, realistically a blend of the 2
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Post by Tatty on Jan 22, 2014 15:42:27 GMT
Maybe Zaha is disillusioned with the way Moyes has treated him considering our regular-playing wingers have been atrocious. Doesn't excuse turning up late all the time; not the way to deal with it properly. Still, you can understand the lad's frustration. I get your point, but there's also accepting your manager's decision, working hard to change his mind, and above all, be professional. I realise it's hard to remain professional under difficult circumstances, I should know, but the fact remains that you can get a rep for being a bellend, and that's it, career over. |
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Post by Bestie on Jan 22, 2014 15:47:46 GMT
Maybe Zaha is disillusioned with the way Moyes has treated him considering our regular-playing wingers have been atrocious. Doesn't excuse turning up late all the time; not the way to deal with it properly. Still, you can understand the lad's frustration. I get your point, but there's also accepting your manager's decision, working hard to change his mind, and above all, be professional. I realise it's hard to remain professional under difficult circumstances, I should know, but the fact remains that you can get a rep for being a bellend, and that's it, career over. Yeah, that's what I was getting at really. The cause and symptom thing doesn't really matter if the symptom is gross unprofessionalism. |
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