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Post by king nothing on Oct 10, 2013 10:58:39 GMT
How long did sir bobby play on the left under sir matt four to five years? Maybe its best he just fucks off I really don't want this cunt giving veiled digs at SAF whilst picking up a paycheck from the club fergie rebuilt.
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Post by Stew on Oct 10, 2013 11:11:35 GMT
The best example is Philip Lahm. Best full back in the world, the new manager asks him to play in midfield. Guess what? He fucking does it without a single moan.
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Post by Bestie on Oct 10, 2013 11:19:18 GMT
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Clinical finisher = plays right-wing for at least two full seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 11:38:38 GMT
The worst part is I think we are currently watching his best. The in-form Rooney. He's been good but hardly setting the world alite. Time to give someone else a shot.
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Post by Kamilo on Oct 10, 2013 12:25:35 GMT
The worst part is I think we are currently watching his best. The in-form Rooney. He's been good but hardly setting the world alite. Time to give someone else a shot. Agree, when Kagz had his oh so easily done hat trick I thought that would be a launching pad for greater things.. |
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Post by jimbonda on Oct 10, 2013 13:26:47 GMT
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Clinical finisher = plays right-wing for at least two full seasons. and he was good there too, really good. remember him keeping beckham out of the side for a stretch of games before he left. he was like a breath of fresh air. |
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Post by ericisking on Oct 10, 2013 17:21:10 GMT
Glad I'm not the only one on here with the same low opinion of him. He's had his time, and although he was great for us, it was a long time ago. He is not worth the money he is getting so get rid. Please please please put Kagz in and see why he was the best player in the Bundesliga.
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Post by redcase on Oct 10, 2013 17:39:38 GMT
The retention of Rooney, for some reason, is seen as vital for David Moyes' managerial reign. At least the start of it. For the club's sake, we absolutely cannot afford to lose him now. That being said, I truly believe Kagawa can be better than him. The problem is, nobody abroad wants Rooney right now, aand we cannot sell him to a competitor within the league. Tricky , this one. Acid test for Moyes, who apparently does not rate Kagawa at all.
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Post by jimbonda on Oct 10, 2013 18:31:38 GMT
The retention of Rooney, for some reason, is seen as vital for David Moyes' managerial reign. At least the start of it. For the club's sake, we absolutely cannot afford to lose him now. That being said, I truly believe Kagawa can be better than him. The problem is, nobody abroad wants Rooney right now, aand we cannot sell him to a competitor within the league. Tricky , this one. Acid test for Moyes, who apparently does not rate Kagawa at all. spot on post i'd say although i'd be surprised if moyes doesn't rate kagawa at all. rooney has been one of the outstanding players in the premiership for nearly 10 years. other than a pair of seasons for Dortmund kagawa has a single bitty English season under his belt where he's been played out of position much of the time if he's been on the pitch at all. really can't blame moyes for fielding an established XI in that opening run of fixtures. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Oct 10, 2013 19:47:11 GMT
The best example is Philip Lahm. Best full back in the world, the new manager asks him to play in midfield. Guess what? He fucking does it without a single moan. I can tell you now, if you read lahmns autobiography you might change your mind, he's a right blabber about his past managers and certainly isn't an angel. I always felt wayne was played out of position many times for the sake of the team. 09 CL final in Rome is a perfect example. Many times in europe he's been asked to play out wide and do a job for the team. If your a top player you want to play in your preferred position. It wasn't once in a blue moon mate, it was many times as far as I recall. Rooney has put his foot in it quite alot but he has a point here. He makes one comment about why he considered leaving and he's cained for it. |
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Post by Chelsea Rentboy on Oct 10, 2013 19:51:00 GMT
The retention of Rooney, for some reason, is seen as vital for David Moyes' managerial reign. At least the start of it. For the club's sake, we absolutely cannot afford to lose him now. That being said, I truly believe Kagawa can be better than him. The problem is, nobody abroad wants Rooney right now, aand we cannot sell him to a competitor within the league. Tricky , this one. Acid test for Moyes, who apparently does not rate Kagawa at all. The retention of Rooney was the first thing in his in-tray when he took over from Fergie, Moyes has done it. Whatever your view on Rooney, the danger is that if Moyes lets him go the last thing he wants is that people will percieve that he's lost more credibility to a certain degree as a manager as he couldn't actually hang on to him. Regarding Rooney, you're correct there's no club at the moment he can go to for the various reasons you've outlined. Rooney is deffo with us for the foreseeable future, he could even be with us long term. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 20:19:31 GMT
Rooney will be with us long term because the powers that be will bow to his every fucking demand, they have done on 2 occasions. Sick of hearing about him. Oh he's happy now is he? let's wait until the next time he is subbed or starts on the bench (not that it will ever happen because he must have everything his own way). He will soon throw his toys out of the pram again.
Whereas players that ACTUALLY want to play at the club are having to weigh up their options because they can't get a look in because their too fucking afraid of the daft twat kicking off again. Granted he's had a good and solid start to the season but the damage is done. He score's I will cheer, but it won't be for him.
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Post by paulparkersbitch on Oct 10, 2013 20:57:33 GMT
I understand why fans are mad at him and if that's why you want him out of the club then fair enough, but if you want him out because of his lack of talent then your mad.
He has scored 50 goals in his last 2 season with us, named in the world team of the year 2011 and came in 5th in the world player of the year. Yes last year he wasn't at his best but he was injured for parts of the season and him and SAF obviously weren't seeing eye to eye, the lad is 28 years old and some of you are talking like he needs to be shipped up to the glue factory. Like him or not Rooney is still an immense talent and I promise you we would have regretted it if we had allowed him to move to Chelsea.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 22:37:11 GMT
I understand why fans are mad at him and if that's why you want him out of the club then fair enough, but if you want him out because of his lack of talent then your mad. He has scored 50 goals in his last 2 season with us, named in the world team of the year 2011 and came in 5th in the world player of the year. Yes last year he wasn't at his best but he was injured for parts of the season and him and SAF obviously weren't seeing eye to eye, the lad is 28 years old and some of you are talking like he needs to be shipped up to the glue factory. Like him or not Rooney is still an immense talent and I promise you we would have regretted it if we had allowed him to move to Chelsea. He's causing more problems than he's fixing. Kagawa & Chicharito can't get a game between them because of him. Where are his goals against Liverpooletc.. He's being paid World Class wages, he is simply not world class, he's a very good player who doesn't even want to play for us. He should have been sold & that 40mil+ reinvested. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 22:49:41 GMT
The best example is Philip Lahm. Best full back in the world, the new manager asks him to play in midfield. Guess what? He fucking does it without a single moan. I can tell you now, if you read lahmns autobiography you might change your mind, he's a right blabber about his past managers and certainly isn't an angel. I always felt wayne was played out of position many times for the sake of the team. 09 CL final in Rome is a perfect example. Many times in europe he's been asked to play out wide and do a job for the team. If your a top player you want to play in your preferred position. It wasn't once in a blue moon mate, it was many times as far as I recall. Rooney has put his foot in it quite alot but he has a point here. He makes one comment about why he considered leaving and he's cained for it. He was played out of position because Ronaldo was better, Then RVP was better & he should be on the bench because Kagawa is better. Seeing a pattern here? He has no right to demand his playing position. |
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