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Post by fletchabey on Sept 1, 2013 10:31:45 GMT
It would be daft to be happy to pay £26mill for him but not increase it to £30m. If we actually do this then we as fans need to demand answers. Indeed, I mean I don't like to throw off accusations when we've very little evidence about the inner workings, but if we don't bother it would be ridiculous. The bid is confirmed and unlike with Cesc he has an obtainable release clause only a fraction over it. Judging from Bilbao statement they would seem ok if we did pay that much and wouldn't try to fuck us over. The bid is just to close to the release to not bother, I would seriously question why we wouldn't have followed up. The only excuse would be a to its complex deal, which would question why leave it this late. Sill as I said Bayern set a precedent, though technically a re-affirmation of the Ronaldo (fat) deal in 2002. Hopefully if we offer the release Bilbao would just accept it. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Sept 1, 2013 10:37:51 GMT
There are all sorts of tax complications, that Bayern had to go through too, hence why 'just paying the release clause' isn't that simple.
Complications that could see the final figure being close to 55mill....
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Post by Stew on Sept 1, 2013 10:42:19 GMT
I think that's why there was talk of us offering slightly more than the release clause, to smooth this along. Sid Lowe mentioned it I'm pretty sure.
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Post by fletchabey on Sept 1, 2013 12:11:17 GMT
There are all sorts of tax complications, that Bayern had to go through too, hence why 'just paying the release clause' isn't that simple. Complications that could see the final figure being close to 55mill.... No it really isn't. Bayern did not pay any additional tax, in the end. Sure that dragged out some time and involved the Spanish tax office making a ruling but no additional tax was paid. Bayern passed the money to Martinez to buyout his contract, but they had already made a ruling stating it was a business transaction, not earnings, so income tax was never involved. Anyone saying we'd have to pay more taxes/extra's simple hasnt read/didnt understand what happened last year. Now I'm not expert, but for me that's a case of setting a precedent which would affect this deal and Bilbao should know that. |
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Post by tommyred on Sept 1, 2013 12:13:12 GMT
There are all sorts of tax complications, that Bayern had to go through too, hence why 'just paying the release clause' isn't that simple. Complications that could see the final figure being close to 55mill.... No it really isn't. Bayern did not pay any additional tax, in the end. Sure that dragged out some time and involved the Spanish tax office making a ruling but no additional tax was paid. Bayern passed the money to Martinez to buyout his contract, but they had already made a ruling stating it was a business transaction, not earnings, so income tax was never involved. Anyone saying we'd have to pay more taxes/extra's simple hasnt read/didnt understand what happened last year. Now I'm not expert, but for me that's a case of setting a precedent which would affect this deal and Bilbao should know that. Sounds like we'd have benefitted from making this move with, you know, more than a day left in the window... |
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Post by fletchabey on Sept 1, 2013 12:14:12 GMT
Very true.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 14:41:06 GMT
Don't know this player, apparently he played against us in Europe, left no impression on me. Is he mobile? Or we settling and overspending on an Arteta quality player or are we getting a future Spain starter?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 14:43:48 GMT
Don't know this player, apparently he played against us in Europe, left no impression on me. Is he mobile? Or we settling and overspending on an Arteta quality player or are we getting a future Spain starter? He was part of the Bilbao side that tore us a new arsehole |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 14:45:35 GMT
Don't know this player, apparently he played against us in Europe, left no impression on me. Is he mobile? Or we settling and overspending on an Arteta quality player or are we getting a future Spain starter? He was part of the Bilbao side that tore us a new arsehole I remember Munian from the game but i don't remember this guy, that's not a criticism of him, as i say i don't recall ever seeing him play. |
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Post by Stew on Sept 1, 2013 14:49:28 GMT
He was superb in both legs, ran us ragged. Not that it matters, we won't sign him.
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Post by RedDevil'sAdvocate on Sept 1, 2013 15:02:21 GMT
We bid around 28, the release clause is 31. If he isn't holding a United shirt tomorrow next to Moyes woodward should be shot! Because that would show woody and the glazers are just fucking around, thinking the fans are dumb...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 15:03:25 GMT
close this thread - no signing here
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Post by ratbag on Sept 1, 2013 15:58:28 GMT
close this thread - no signing here Agreed fucking forget any signings of any significance.... Still pissed at T5 awaiting flight.... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 21:20:32 GMT
Well this went stale very quickly
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Sept 2, 2013 7:38:34 GMT
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