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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 12:25:53 GMT
Our manager, Mr. Giggs has openly supported the plan. Providing further evidence of his futuristic philosophy. But Forest Green dude says it shit. So there |
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Post by Bestie on May 9, 2014 12:31:28 GMT
Our manager, Mr. Giggs has openly supported the plan. Providing further evidence of his futuristic philosophy. Sorry, but if he reckons the 'B-Team in League 3' idea is a good one then that isn't futuristic thinking, that's foolishness. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on May 9, 2014 12:31:37 GMT
I don't get what the fuss is about.
None of the other systems have worked. I'd have ceiling for how far teams can get promoted, that's about it.
Probably quite shit for the smaller teams, that could get relegated by the bigger B-Teams with loaded foreigners, mind.
Unless, of course, they stick in a good ol' quota.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 12:34:14 GMT
I don't get what the fuss is about. None of the other systems have worked. I'd have ceiling for how far teams can get promoted, that's about it. Probably quite shit for the smaller teams, that could get relegated by the bigger B-Teams with loaded foreigners, mind. Unless, of course, they stick in a good ol' quota. B teams can't go above League 1 in the proposals apparently. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on May 9, 2014 12:36:35 GMT
Well then what's the issue, in 20 words or less?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 12:37:24 GMT
Great Idea, though exposing them to cloggers could be harmful too. Better than the U21's anyhoo. That's my opinion, kinda. Was hoping until today that the Championship would eventually be the limit. But I don't see League 1/2/3 football being beneficial unless once the players hit 19-20, they become ineligible |
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Post by _ on May 9, 2014 12:47:26 GMT
Our manager, Mr. Giggs has openly supported the plan. Providing further evidence of his futuristic philosophy. But Forest Green dude says it shit. So there From experience (please note any stalkers out there) it woks well enough to produce Kroos, Hummels, Reus, Mueller, Hahn and Lahm. On that basis we should entertain it because precious few are coming through. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 12:48:49 GMT
did they play in the equivalent of League 3?
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Post by Bestie on May 9, 2014 12:49:13 GMT
Well then what's the issue, in 20 words or less? Kills the Lower Leagues. Small but Technical players (like Scholes) could get knobbled. Allows 'youth-hoarding' (like Chelsea). 18 words. |
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Post by Bestie on May 9, 2014 12:56:55 GMT
did they play in the equivalent of League 3? Kind of. Regionalligen (the 5 Regional Leagues) are the equivalent of the Fourth division (So, League 2). Then there is the 3. Bundesliga which would be like League 1. There isn't really a 'League 3' equivalent because lower that the Regionalligen is Non-League. So essentially, yes, those players played at the lowest Professional level in Germany. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on May 9, 2014 13:01:21 GMT
Sure, so you'd keep things as they are bestie? With the absolutely useless u/21 league?
All I see is criticism, without any real alternative suggestions.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 13:02:22 GMT
did they play in the equivalent of League 3? Kind of. Regionalligen (the 5 Regional Leagues) are the equivalent of the Fourth division (So, League 2). Then there is the 3. Bundesliga which would be like League 1. There isn't really a 'League 3' equivalent because lower that the Regionalligen is Non-League. So essentially, yes, those players played at the lowest Professional level in Germany. Thanks for the info, I had no idea they would of gone that low, would of assumed it would of been higher. Even though it is the lowest level, is it still more technique focused? unlike our lower leagues? |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 13:03:25 GMT
What is the criteria for having a B team though? Is every premiership team allowed one, or just teams who currently take part in the under 21's? I like the idea in principle, but this is England and the FA we're talking about, so you can guarantee it will end up covered in shit.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 13:05:22 GMT
It's apparently 10 B teams, and 10 conference teams to make league 3.
So Money will talk, suggestions of whoever takes part giving an annual pot of 30mil to be split between the conference teams, assuming not just the ones who get to be in league 3
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Post by _ on May 9, 2014 13:08:22 GMT
did they play in the equivalent of League 3? There is a lot of none sense written about the system usually by people who have never seen it. A ctually it is well managed by the Bund. The players aren't herded or hoarded otherwise why would BMG, BVD and BL have done so well. They start around level 3 which is where the regional system kicks in. It's localised cutting out long distances and the need for extensive travel from home.
The players fall into different squads like Cologne II or BVD II. The management structures are separate and kept away from each other. There is a lot of care for the lads. The referees don't allow the kind of tackles we see in Britain. Few players get seriously hurt. I go regularly to watch a local side and it's very nice football indeed.
The most impressive part in the system is the Bund's monitoring of coaching and training. The universities and local communities are all involved. The facilities are never shabby, there are no pitches or facilities like Ian Wright visits in his Sky broadcast. A couple of weeks ago I went to a Sunday park game in Hackney and couldn't believe it. After all the bollox about Post-Olympic investment it was like something out of the sixties. Squalid and dirty.
Can understand why the FA might be against it but very pleased if it comes to Britain. |
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