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Post by ratbag on May 8, 2014 16:37:08 GMT
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Post by _ on May 8, 2014 17:02:24 GMT
Never heard f this but not surprised. Our youth policy has been in decline for a long time.
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Post by ratbag on May 8, 2014 17:45:09 GMT
Never heard f this but not surprised. Our youth policy has been in decline for a long time. We can't just keep losing talent though...it costs so much to replace... Just watched this... Reminds me a bit of Ravel but I think Ravel was better at the same age...only one game's evidence though... |
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Post by ratbag on May 8, 2014 17:46:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 18:14:11 GMT
Looks like scaremongering to me. Aren't players only allowed to sign one year scholarships until they are of age to sign a professional contract? We'd have had the same situation every year before they sign their scholarship contract. The story likens it to the Pogba situation which could not be further off the mark - Pogba left because he wasn't getting action at 18 not because of wages.
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Post by johnboy14 on May 8, 2014 18:15:50 GMT
The biggest question im wondering is why are kids at this age worried about money?. These kids have agents which is ridiculous. I agree we can't keep losing our best young players but you can't start paying them silly money at that age, its more destructive than progressive. If he wants to go to city for the cash then he's not looking at the bigger picture, does he think he's going to get the same opportunities at City?. City are spending millions every summer on players, what chance does he have.
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Post by _ on May 8, 2014 19:15:37 GMT
The biggest question im wondering is why are kids at this age worried about money?. These kids have agents which is ridiculous. I agree we can't keep losing our best young players but you can't start paying them silly money at that age, its more destructive than progressive. If he wants to go to city for the cash then he's not looking at the bigger picture, does he think he's going to get the same opportunities at City?. City are spending millions every summer on players, what chance does he have. JB I think you should look to the parents in these matters. They have power of attorney until the kids reach 18. Up to that time they can demand all manner of things including cash. |
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Post by johnboy14 on May 8, 2014 19:55:33 GMT
The biggest question im wondering is why are kids at this age worried about money?. These kids have agents which is ridiculous. I agree we can't keep losing our best young players but you can't start paying them silly money at that age, its more destructive than progressive. If he wants to go to city for the cash then he's not looking at the bigger picture, does he think he's going to get the same opportunities at City?. City are spending millions every summer on players, what chance does he have. JB I think you should look to the parents in these matters. They have power of attorney until the kids reach 18. Up to that time they can demand all manner of things including cash. A good parent should always look out for the interest of there child and not themselves. If its an issue of money like I assume then they need to rethink there priorities. I'm not in there position and I'm sure City will make a very lucrative offer to the player and most likely the parents but if he's good enough he'll more than make enough money down the line. Just being honest but if I had a kid and had a choice between lets say City or Evertons academy I'd encourage him to go to Everton because he will get a chance if he make the grade. Its obvious the powers that be at city want to build a world class academy systems but it will take many years before it comes good. It doesn't happen over time. |
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Post by king nothing on May 8, 2014 20:11:14 GMT
JB I think you should look to the parents in these matters. They have power of attorney until the kids reach 18. Up to that time they can demand all manner of things including cash. A good parent should always look out for the interest of there child and not themselves. If its an issue of money like I assume then they need to rethink there priorities. I'm not in there position and I'm sure City will make a very lucrative offer to the player and most likely the parents but if he's good enough he'll more than make enough money down the line. Just being honest but if I had a kid and had a choice between lets say City or Evertons academy I'd encourage him to go to Everton because he will get a chance if he make the grade. Its obvious the powers that be at city want to build a world class academy systems but it will take many years before it comes good. It doesn't happen over time. JB my next door neighbour coaches at citeh, even though he's a red. He tells me their academy when finished is going to be unrivaled in world football. When parents turn up with their kids they are blown away with the facilities. Pretty tough to compete with that kind of money. It will be interesting to see how many kids come through the ranks compared to the big name signings though. |
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Post by Bestie on May 8, 2014 20:17:51 GMT
Scaremongering or not, it's the way of the world. I am all for sticking to principles but Pogba has turned me. We need to fuck up with the fucking about and do the right thing. Offer a decent (not extortionate) wage and give the chances to earn it. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
But I'd rather throw money at that than bullshit signings like Fellaini and new c*nting contracts for the likes of Wayne Rooney or Ashley Young at £ 120 grand a fucking week.
I'm sick of us pissing around with youth these days. Our first team is full of dross, there is room to gamble with youth. Especially this season, we could have been doing it since about January.
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on May 9, 2014 5:10:54 GMT
There's two separate issues though. Johnny is correct when he says that any good parent would take a long term approach to the money, but parents are only human too. Given the guaranteed money now vs potential cash later, most "modern" parents/people are taking the here and now. And really, given the numbers of youngsters who don't end up making it, it's easy to see why they'd take the cash up front.
The second and more important issue is the development of the kids career/playing time. There have been more than a few kids lately who have left United or didn't join in the first place because they knew we wouldn't give them a fair crack in the first team. Pogba and Ramsey immediately spring to mind. Two players who didn't feel they'd get enough playing time in what's been our Achilles heel since Rome. In my mind, that's the bigger reason for kids moving on, not the money.
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