sleel6
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Post by sleel6 on Apr 26, 2013 9:05:02 GMT
He is definitely better off the bench but he seems to score in nearly every game he plays so you can't really argue with that.
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Post by jimbonda on Apr 26, 2013 10:55:58 GMT
you could say in theory that ANY attacker is better off the bench against a trired defence, and unfortunately he's had more than his share of chances to make an impact off the bench and gain a supersub tag.
he's the one striker we've got who naturally leads the line and operates right up top. he's a completely different player to van Perse, waz and welbeck. it's for tactical reasons that he doesn't always start, not because he's more a threat off the bench - this is something of a myth.
he's a constant goal threat who doesn't give a defence a minutes peace, much more dangerous over 90 minutes than for 15 or 20. he's just pure quality, instant reactions, clinical finishing. seeing him sat on a bench feels so wrong
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Post by Bestie on Apr 26, 2013 11:02:45 GMT
Well, he clearly isn't much more dangerous over 90 minutes than 15 or 20. How many games do you see him starting, not scoring, and being subbed off?
Plenty. On the other side, when he can come off the bench, against the worn defences, he scores almost on tap.
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Post by jimbonda on Apr 26, 2013 11:13:13 GMT
ask yourself this. when he starts games and doesn't score, do you look back at lots of fluffed chances? no. he's a predatory striker who needs service. he'll put away a half chance in the blink of an eye.
again, when he doesn't start it's for tactical reasons, about the way Fergie wants to set up the team, not because Hernandez isn't good for a start. i can understand this, not the 'supersub' tag.
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Post by Bestie on Apr 26, 2013 11:25:28 GMT
Yes, he is lethal when he gets the chances. My point is we tend to create more 'poacher' chances later in games, when Hernandez can shine. As I've said before, we don't play the type of football to allow Hernandez to score bucket-loads starting games. Not enough of our play revolves around the ball in the box, which is where he is the most dangerous. Yes, he can play on the shoulder of the last defender, and I would definitely start him against the likes of Terry (or Mertesacker, for that matter) but then as you rightly say we're relying on the service getting to him.
Which doesn't always happen.
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Post by jimbonda on Apr 26, 2013 12:15:31 GMT
As I've said before, we don't play the type of football to allow Hernandez to score bucket-loads starting games. Not enough of our play revolves around the ball in the box, which is where he is the most dangerous. probably right, and it comes back to the way the team is set up / tactics. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 20:35:24 GMT
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Post by karthy on May 2, 2013 7:26:38 GMT
I wonder who is a back up to whom. Radamel to Lewa or otherwise  |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 8:35:30 GMT
maybe they're both coming and we'll go 433? Falcao - RVP - Lewa Zaha - Carrick you knowwwwww - TonyV Evra - Evans - Smalling - Rafael De God  |
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Post by alt on May 2, 2013 10:19:59 GMT
maybe they're both coming and we'll go 433? Falcao - RVP - Lewa Zaha - Carrick you knowwwwww - TonyV Evra - Evans - Smalling - Rafael De God Kagawa  |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 10:38:38 GMT
I'd plum forgotten about him .....
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Post by Stew on May 2, 2013 10:46:13 GMT
That line up is way too defensive
DDG
Tony, Vidic, Evra
Zaha, Carrick, Kags
Wazza
Lewa, RVP, Falcao
Have some!!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 13:39:55 GMT
3 at the back?
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Post by karthy on May 2, 2013 15:49:17 GMT
That line up is way too defensive DDG Tony, Vidic, Evra Zaha, Carrick, Kags Wazza Lewa, RVP, Falcao Have some!! Sorry Mate , if kags has to be in the team then it has to be in the Hole not on the wings |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 16:16:42 GMT
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