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Post by Paul on Feb 2, 2023 14:23:56 GMT
This is going to be a minefield. It’s important to read the second part of the statement here and to read between the lines. And Greenwood hasn’t been found innocent lest we forget. It'll be interesting to see how the club approaches this. Me personally I don't see how he can play for the club again. Not to mention the barrage of abuse the club would get if he did.
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Feb 2, 2023 14:28:50 GMT
Stinks of a payoff. Cannot allow him back, surely!?
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Post by kstandhand on Feb 2, 2023 14:30:00 GMT
Stinks of a payoff. Cannot allow him back, surely!? 'Withdrawal of key Witnesses'
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Post by JamBritRed on Feb 2, 2023 14:30:07 GMT
This is going to be a minefield. It’s important to read the second part of the statement here and to read between the lines. And Greenwood hasn’t been found innocent lest we forget. I understand the sentiment here Stew, and it is a minefield. But considering he hasn't been found guilty, so I'd hope those who have entrenched positions on the matter give the man an opportunity to grow past this incident. I will go on the record and say I have no problems whatsoever with him wearing the shirt again, considering the conclusion reached by the authorities. Even if I'm in a minority of one, I'll afford him the rights given to anybody cleared of an allegation. Irrespective of how unpalatable that allegation was.
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Post by Bestie on Feb 2, 2023 14:31:38 GMT
This is going to be a minefield. It’s important to read the second part of the statement here and to read between the lines. And Greenwood hasn’t been found innocent lest we forget. Danger, Will Robinson. This is a tiptoe job if I have ever seen one. Innocent until proven guilty, no exceptions. Unfortunately that statement reads that they cannot *prove* guilt.
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Post by Stew on Feb 2, 2023 14:31:53 GMT
This is going to be a minefield. It’s important to read the second part of the statement here and to read between the lines. And Greenwood hasn’t been found innocent lest we forget. I understand the sentiment here Stew, and it is a minefield. But considering he hasn't been found guilty, so I'd hope those who have entrenched positions on the matter give the man an opportunity to grow past this incident. I will go on the record and say I have no problems whatsoever with him wearing the shirt again, considering the conclusion reached by the authorities. Even if I'm in a minority of one, I'll afford him the rights given to anybody cleared of an allegation. Irrespective of how unpalatable that allegation was. I understand what you’re saying but what do you think made the key witnesses withdraw? Obviously let’s be very careful from a defamation pov.
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Post by Stew on Feb 2, 2023 14:33:57 GMT
Actually chaps, is there anything to be said to avoiding this almost entirely on here? Not trying to censor anyone’s views even if they run contrary to mine or others. Just wondering if it’s worth the potential headache that might come from the whole issue.
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Post by caino on Feb 2, 2023 14:35:28 GMT
its a minefield for the club and fans to navigate.
i hope Greenwood becomes a better person for his own sake though.
whatever the outcome - if he is allowed to leave or if he is allowed to come back - i wont be against either. but we all know, if he joins any of the rival clubs he will turn into a world class player
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Post by mightyez on Feb 2, 2023 14:35:43 GMT
Just in regards to the club, I'd be genuinely shocked if they let him go. Whether or not he plays this season is another thing entirely. How his teammates take him back in also another thing entirely
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Post by Paul on Feb 2, 2023 14:36:24 GMT
Stinks of a payoff. Cannot allow him back, surely!? 'Withdrawal of key Witnesses' Oddly coloured envelope with questionable contents couldn't possibly be a factor here 😏
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Post by Tatty on Feb 2, 2023 14:37:57 GMT
'Withdrawal of key Witnesses' Oddly coloured envelope with questionable contents couldn't possibly be a factor here 😏 Lads, less of stuff like this. It's pure hearsay and potentially libellous. Let's try and be adult about this.
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Post by ouroboros on Feb 2, 2023 14:39:22 GMT
I understand the sentiment here Stew, and it is a minefield. But considering he hasn't been found guilty, so I'd hope those who have entrenched positions on the matter give the man an opportunity to grow past this incident. I will go on the record and say I have no problems whatsoever with him wearing the shirt again, considering the conclusion reached by the authorities. Even if I'm in a minority of one, I'll afford him the rights given to anybody cleared of an allegation. Irrespective of how unpalatable that allegation was. I understand what you’re saying but what do you think made the key witnesses withdraw? Obviously let’s be very careful from a defamation pov. It does say "a combination of the withdrawal of key witnesses and new material that came to light", so cannot be ruled out that the former is related to the latter based on the information given. A crap situation nonetheless.
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Post by Stew on Feb 2, 2023 14:40:43 GMT
I rarely say this but I certainly don’t envy the people at Utd who have to decide the next course of action.
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Post by alt on Feb 2, 2023 14:41:16 GMT
The Crown Prosecution Service said the charges were discontinued after a key witness withdrew their involvement.
A spokesman said: "We have a duty to keep cases under continuous review.
"In this case a combination of the withdrawal of key witnesses and new material that came to light meant there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction. In these circumstances, we are under a duty to stop the case.
"We have explained our decision to all parties.
"We would always encourage any potential victims to come forward and report to police and we will prosecute wherever our legal test is met."
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Makes you wonder what the new material was.
Will be interesting to see how this is handled. Will all charges being dropped, I can see a world where he does play again for the club, who the fuck knows though. You'd expect a statement to be put out soon.
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Post by Paul on Feb 2, 2023 14:42:28 GMT
Oddly coloured envelope with questionable contents couldn't possibly be a factor here 😏 Lads, less of stuff like this. It's pure hearsay and potentially libellous. Let's try and be adult about this. There's been no accusaton on my part, its a loosely based opinion. So off your high horse.
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