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Post by kstandhand on Jul 25, 2015 6:51:30 GMT
Think Carbs should have the happening GIF on standby for Monday !!
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Post by grandpaTJ on Jul 25, 2015 15:24:59 GMT
Think Carbs should have the happening GIF on standby for Monday !! Might have trouble getting authorities to let him pass through villages or park at stations, thing is full of rambunctious muppets
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 16:40:59 GMT
Think Carbs should have the happening GIF on standby for Monday !! Might have trouble getting authorities to let him pass through villages or park at stations, thing is full of rambunctious muppets Muppetry at your service chaps!
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Post by kstandhand on Jul 25, 2015 19:30:19 GMT
Might have trouble getting authorities to let him pass through villages or park at stations, thing is full of rambunctious muppets Muppetry at your service chaps! Indeed chaps
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Post by gdmm on Jul 26, 2015 10:10:36 GMT
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Post by Max United on Jul 26, 2015 11:24:27 GMT
I think he needs to put in a transfer request and publiclly say he wants to leave!
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Post by _ on Jul 26, 2015 15:27:09 GMT
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Post by Stew on Jul 27, 2015 10:50:00 GMT
Sid Lowe:
Manchester United’s pursuit of Sergio Ramos has suffered a serious setback after Real Madrid’s president Florentino Pérez told the defender that he would not be sold under any circumstances during a long meeting in Guangzhou, China.
Although there are still five weeks of the transfer window remaining, the belief from some quarters is that Ramos’s departure is now impossible and United are considering their next move. Ramos has not agreed a contract renewal at the Bernabéu and it is not yet clear whether he has finally given up on the move.
The meeting, which ran into Sunday night, was attended by Pérez, Ramos, José Ángel Sánchez, Madrid’s chief executive, and Ramos’s brother and agent, René. Ramos reiterated his desire to join United, who have made two formal bids for the defender, but Pérez outright refused to countenance a sale. With two years left on his current contract, Ramos’s ability to force Madrid’s hand is limited. It is the club, ultimately, who hold sway.
United’s position is that they will not sell David de Gea unless they are allowed to sign Ramos. As it stands, the goalkeeper would be forced to stay at Old Trafford. Whether United will continue to stick to that stance, following the news from China and having confirmed the signing of Sergio Romero, remains to be seen.
Pérez sought to rebuild bridges, aware that his relationship with Ramos has become difficult, but more significant was his refusal to budge. He insisted that any attempt from Ramos to publicly declare his desire to leave would not make a departure more likely; it would rather just make the player’s relationship with the supporters difficult.
Ramos had previously told Madrid of his intention to leave at a meeting with Ángel Sánchez at the club’s Valdebebas training ground on 24 June and a tense telephone conversation with Pérez followed. At that point, Madrid set a fee that was prohibitively high but did not reject a move out of hand.
Neither player nor president had said anything publicly in the meantime, although Ramos’s camp did express their desire to leave Madrid for Manchester on Sky Sports and Louis Van Gaal confirmed United’s interest when he talked about transfers as being a “process”, adding: “Maybe mister Ramos is in the process.”
Madrid’s position has hardened over the last fortnight. During Iker Casillas’s send off at the Bernabéu, supporters chanted: “Ramos is not for sale” and called for the president to resign. Pérez came under huge criticism for the way in which Casillas’s departure was handled. Allowing one captain to go was damaging enough; allowing the second captain to do so would have been even more risky.
That day, Pérez said that he had allowed Casillas to leave because that had been the player’s desire. Asked if that applied to other footballers, i.e. Ramos, he replied: “there are some players with contracts who want to go who will not be allowed to.” That remained his position in China.
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Post by grandpaTJ on Jul 27, 2015 11:32:08 GMT
Things definitely getting very ugly indeed. Perez is definitely a prick with ears
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Post by ratbag on Jul 27, 2015 11:35:46 GMT
This may not be over yet...not sure whether I care either way as long as we get Otamendi but telling a player who wants to leave that he is staying put isn't conducive to a happy camper (DDG could also be in this bracket)...so we have a player at each club who is (possibly) unhappy and wanting to move...seems an obvious solution to this...swap deal - not that these happen often but it is a possibility...
For these players not to exchange clubs could be a risk for both clubs...
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Post by JamBritRed on Jul 27, 2015 11:38:09 GMT
not too far off what we are doing with DDG right now TJ. rightly so, the club is protecting it's asset, i fully expect us to do the same.
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Post by Stew on Jul 27, 2015 11:39:34 GMT
This may not be over yet...not sure whether I care either way as long as we get Otamendi but telling a player who wants to leave that he is staying put isn't conducive to a happy camper (DDG could also be in this bracket)...so we have a player at each club who is (possibly) unhappy and wanting to move...seems an obvious solution to this...swap deal - not that these happen often but it is a possibility... For these players not to exchange clubs could be a risk for both clubs... In theory fine but there is a massive difference in the price we see Ramos at and the one they do.
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Post by ManicRed on Jul 27, 2015 11:43:25 GMT
waiting for Ramos to turn down the contract!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 11:44:14 GMT
They get Dave for free next season, we get Ramos half price next season (1 year left), same as buying Ramos for 40 now, and selling dave for 20.
Could happen.
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Post by grandpaTJ on Jul 27, 2015 11:48:33 GMT
not too far off what we are doing with DDG right now TJ. rightly so, the club is protecting it's asset, i fully expect us to do the same. Aye, agree with you on protecting the asset. But as a matter of course, I definitely think that in the grand scheme of things, Mr. Perez is most definitely a prick with ears That would be my personal opinion of course an based on my disappointment that we are not looking like we will have Sergio on the back line. I was 100% convinced he wanted to come to United, because this isn't about contracts any more, it is about his personal pride and also given that I think both he and his brother/agent think the same of Mr Perez that I do
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