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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 11:52:47 GMT
Bastian 'not ready to play at that level'
That surely means at some point he will be then?
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Post by Bestie on Nov 5, 2016 11:59:25 GMT
Bastian 'not ready to play at that level' That surely means at some point he will be then? I have a feeling he will not be ready until about January, at which point he will be ready to play at a different club. Or, or he has wised up, stopped swanning around like a guy on his retirement cruise and Jose has genuinely brought him back in. Third or, we have certain individual/s who don't like Bastian, and Mourinho's on a bit of a WUM sesh.
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Post by CaajScot on Dec 1, 2016 7:14:11 GMT
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Post by On a break on Dec 2, 2016 15:33:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 16:00:17 GMT
well thats interesting
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Post by alwaysUnited on Dec 2, 2016 18:47:18 GMT
What a reception he got. if jose is not keen on blind as CDM and carrick cant play all the matches we should definitely play Basti there.
Tree in starting XI before him is a footballing crime.
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Post by grandpaTJ on Dec 2, 2016 18:51:48 GMT
More man management from Jose. Players wanna play, and Basti not only wants to play, but to be a leader and a fan favorite as well. He just had to realize how he was playing for. Looks like Jose has made his point.
Loving seeing this, lining up quality so he'll be able to go at getting top 4 and every bit of hardware to put int he case.
For me, the way he is doing things surely looks like someone who plans on being around for a while
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Post by JamBritRed on Dec 2, 2016 20:27:35 GMT
More man management from Jose. Players wanna play, and Basti not only wants to play, but to be a leader and a fan favorite as well. He just had to realize how he was playing for. Looks like Jose has made his point. Loving seeing this, lining up quality so he'll be able to go at getting top 4 and every bit of hardware to put int he case. For me, the way he is doing things surely looks like someone who plans on being around for a while it may not be what we are used to, but he seems to be getting his point across that's for sure. most if not all of the players that Jose has singled out for criticism have redoubled their efforts. that has to be a positive for the club and the manager
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jan 11, 2017 0:29:48 GMT
Have I missed something?
There was the uproar when he was banished by Jose, the rapturous applause when he came on against west ham in the cup and the applause when he came on against reading?
He has done fuck all for United except pick up his wage, fuck off around the world and make his arse fatter.
Yet he's treated like the 2nd coming of Solskjaer
Other than be less talented (but then who expected otherwise), be on less money & do everything he could whenever he was played, how does Fellaini attract the shit he does
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Post by ratbag on Jan 11, 2017 7:15:40 GMT
Have I missed something? There was the uproar when he was banished by Jose, the rapturous applause when he came on against west ham in the cup and the applause when he came on against reading? He has done fuck all for United except pick up his wage, fuck off around the world and make his arse fatter. Yet he's treated like the 2nd coming of Solskjaer Other than be less talented (but then who expected otherwise), be on less money & do everything he could whenever he was played, how does Fellaini attract the shit he does I expect this is born out of his past reputation rather than his current contribution... Also, part of it is that many of us never expected that we could sign a player like him from a club like Bayern (granted he is past his best but I guess you know what I mean) and given that I think the crowd would love to see something of that talent and class for us...sadly he hasn't exactly delivered... But for some weird reason I still love the fact that we have him...doesn't make sense but there you are...
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Post by Bestie on Jan 11, 2017 8:56:03 GMT
Have I missed something? There was the uproar when he was banished by Jose, the rapturous applause when he came on against west ham in the cup and the applause when he came on against reading? He has done fuck all for United except pick up his wage, fuck off around the world and make his arse fatter. Yet he's treated like the 2nd coming of Solskjaer Other than be less talented (but then who expected otherwise), be on less money & do everything he could whenever he was played, how does Fellaini attract the shit he does Easy. Fellaini represents the frustration and disappointment of the summer after we lost Fergie. The hand wringing, terrified, clearly out of his depth ineptitude of the guy we got to succeed the greatest and for many only manager we've ever had. A chasmic low benchmark as a signing most of us knew was never going to be good enough, for a style of play nobody wanted to see at the club. Fellaini is a perpetual reminder of something most would like to erase from history. Schweinsteiger in contrast represents hope. The Debacle had been shown the door, long overdue, and a European champion was our reward for putting up with it for as long as we did. A European champion signing a legendary European champion as well as the hottest properties in the league and continent. That's why each get the reaction they do. It doesn't matter that the hope was unfounded. Doesn't matter that one of them tries his best but is a bit crap while one seems happy to pick up his wages without playing football. It isn't really about that.
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Post by Tatty on Jan 11, 2017 9:21:12 GMT
Have I missed something? There was the uproar when he was banished by Jose, the rapturous applause when he came on against west ham in the cup and the applause when he came on against reading? He has done fuck all for United except pick up his wage, fuck off around the world and make his arse fatter. Yet he's treated like the 2nd coming of Solskjaer Other than be less talented (but then who expected otherwise), be on less money & do everything he could whenever he was played, how does Fellaini attract the shit he does Easy. Fellaini represents the frustration and disappointment of the summer after we lost Fergie. The hand wringing, terrified, clearly out of his depth ineptitude of the guy we got to succeed the greatest and for many only manager we've ever had. A chasmic low benchmark as a signing most of us knew was never going to be good enough, for a style of play nobody wanted to see at the club. Fellaini is a perpetual reminder of something most would like to erase from history. Schweinsteiger in contrast represents hope. The Debacle had been shown the door, long overdue, and a European champion was our reward for putting up with it for as long as we did. A European champion signing a legendary European champion as well as the hottest properties in the league and continent. That's why each get the reaction they do. It doesn't matter that the hope was unfounded. Doesn't matter that one of them tries his best but is a bit crap while one seems happy to pick up his wages without playing football. It isn't really about that. Two excellent posts here. Tend to agree more with SET here than Bestie though. I don't dislike Fellaini, yes he's generally not good enough for where we want/need to go. But he's essentially the O'Shea or Fletcher of Jose's United. He's very limited in what he does, but can be effective when he wants to be. In fact, thought he was good vs Reading and did what he was asked to do last night.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Feb 1, 2017 11:41:15 GMT
Stefan Effenberg on Sky Deutschland about Schweinsteiger
"His experience is unquestionable," Effenberg told Sky Deutschland. "It's an enormous advantage. You can always bring him into the side at any stage like Mourinho has done and Schweinsteiger's repaid that."
Schweinsteiger's character stood out when he was cast off by Jose Mourinho, believes Effenberg.
"It was important for him during the time he wasn't playing to always offer his services and train well.
"You can really see Schweinsteiger's value now. With little game time, he'll immediately be at 100 percent when he's got his match fitness back.
"He's worth his weight in gold to a club like Manchester United. I also find it good that Bastian never made a public statement or said he wanted a move to a new club. Of course he wants to play more and I hope he gets more games towards the end of the season in order to show how valuable he is."
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Feb 28, 2017 19:47:59 GMT
From 90min.com but it's an interview
BASTIAN SCHWEINSTEIGER OFFERED SUPPORT TO BABAK RAFATI IN 2011 AFTER THE FORMER BUNDESLIGA REFEREE ATTEMPTED SUICIDE
Rafati made an attempt on his own life and considered a repeat until German wrote him a touching letter.
The 46 year old said: "I woke in a hospital bed. It was a terrible moment, and my first thought was that I would plan things next time I tried to kill myself and do the job properly.
"I had been bullied for 18 months beforehand. People wanted to get rid of me for telling the truth. Since my suicide attempt no-one from the German FA has been in touch, but all my fellow refs got in contact. And Bastian Schweinsteiger wrote me a letter that moved me greatly. There was no ulterior motive on his part, as he knew that I would no longer be able to referee after this incident.
"He wrote: 'Mr Rafati, people often make mistakes in life, but we simply have to make comebacks even more often. I wish you all the very best.'
"It was an incredibly big human gesture on his part. Depression is still a huge taboo in football. Since that time I have been working as a mind coach with three Bundesliga players. I can rule out wanting to kill myself again. I now know that I was crazy, and life is too beautiful to destroy oneself." =============
Never change the title of this thread. As bolded, depression is a taboo in football because we often forget that even if we throw money into the equation, when it comes to mental illness, it doesn't change much.
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Post by Monty on Mar 21, 2017 7:22:51 GMT
Basti's gone to Chicago Fire. www.espnfc.com/story/3086948/bastian-schweinsteiger-signs-with-chicago-fire-from-manchester-unitedWorld Cup winner Bastian Schweinsteiger has completed a move to join the Chicago Fire, the Major League Soccer club confirmed to the Chicago Tribune on Monday night. The Manchester United midfielder has been a long-term target for Chicago, having been spotted meeting with Fire manager Veljko Paunovic in November. And with the former Germany star out of Jose Mourinho's plans at Old Trafford, he could join up with the Fire as early as next week, pending only a visa and a medical, the Tribune reported. "We're adding someone who has won at every level, including the very highest levels, and has done so in a way that is consistent with our values," Fire general manager Nelson Rodriguez told the paper. "We as a club will now be forced to hold ourselves to a higher standard, an accountability level. Previously, I think we could satisfy ourselves with what is known domestically. Now we need to rise to a standard that is set more internationally." Schweinsteiger signed a designated player contract that will give pay him $4.5 million in 2017, according to the Tribune, which also said the deal is for one year with a mutual option for the future. A former Bayern Munich legend, Schweinsteiger joined Man United in 2015 but has been restricted to just 18 appearances for the club after falling out of favour with Mourinho in the summer of 2016. The 32-year-old was told he was free to find another club, but despite interest from the MLS, China and Italy, Schweinsteiger opted to stay at United and fight for his place, at the same time as training away from the first team with the club's youngsters. After scoring against Wigan in the FA Cup on Jan. 29, Schweinsteiger has only made one substitute appearance for United in the Europa League on Feb. 22. "Throughout my career, I've always sought opportunities where I hoped to make a positive impact and to help make something great," Schweinsteiger said in a statement the Fire provided to the Tribune. "My move to Chicago Fire is no different. Through my conversations with Nelson and [coach Veljko Paunovic], I'm convinced by the club's vision and philosophy and I want to help them with this project."
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