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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 17:41:42 GMT
Really am done with this fucking waste. He's actually worse than Pogba when it comes to lifestyle over the football. At least Pogba has talent and occasionally uses it. We bang on about not wanting certain players because they're just "mercs" coming to the club for money then we have this clown who is just asking bad with less talent. Needs to be one of the next out the door.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 14, 2019 10:29:15 GMT
Lingard's difficulties — kept private until today — began earlier in the season when his mother Kirsty became unwell. This left 27-year-old Jesse to care for his younger brother Jasper, 14, and 11-year-old sister Daisy-Boo.
Jasper has face challenges dealing with his mother's illness and is currently living with Lingard and being schooled at his house.
So while trying to keep his place at England's biggest football club and adjusting to life as a father himself — his baby daughter is one — Lingard has also been attending school parents' evenings and prioritising his siblings' well-being.
Understandably, the responsibility and stress have taken their toll.
'I am normally quite bubbly and want to put smiles on people's faces but people have seen the change in my ways,' he explained.
'I have been down and glum; just worrying. I felt like everybody just passed all the stuff to me and it weighed on my shoulders. It was like, "Here you go Jesse, you deal with this on your own".
'My mum has had some things for years but never really got help. Now she is. So I have been taking care of my brother and sister. They are with me. It has been tough to see my loved ones struggling and then I have to come to work and try to do my job.'
Lingard, originally from Warrington, has always been close to his family and his worries over the past year have been multi-layered. His grandad Ken — perhaps the greatest influence on his career — has prostate cancer and his nan Pam almost had to have a leg amputated.
Lingard spokes exclusively to Sportsmail about how his troubles at home left him 'down and glum; just worrying'
For weeks, he didn't tell anyone at the club about his issues. Staff say that for a long time the only thing outwardly different about him was the dwindling quality of his football.
'I am a person who likes to deal with stuff on his own but it's not necessarily the right thing to do,' he added. 'I always use the phrase "Be yourself" but I have realised now that there are times when you just can't be. My dad and older brother, Louie, have been great support but some of this stuff has broken my heart, you know?
'As a man I have to take this responsibility on and be there for everyone. I've had to mature and wise up. Sometimes when your worries are so deep you can't function properly. Now it's about getting back to my best and I feel I can do that.'
Lingard's chat with Solskjaer was a turning point. He has only started six Premier League games but two have come in recent wins against Tottenham and Manchester City.
Lingard is now back in the United team and started their brilliant wins over Tottenham and Manchester City last week
Solskjaer has given his midfielder the confidence to play - and that helping hand is benefiting United greatly of late. It's OK to post a funny video after we've won. Obviously not if we have lost. So, yeah, maybe I have made some mistakes A United team seen playing devastating, quick football on the counter has done so with Lingard in the vanguard. But it was actually a substitute appearance in a home win against Brighton a month ago that sticks in his mind.
'When I came on the manager said to me, "Just go on and play with a smile and enjoy it",' he recalled. 'To hear that gives you confidence. He knows what kind of character I am. I need to be smiling.
'He has just told me that everything will be OK. Maybe I just needed someone to say that.
'He said he just wanted the old Jesse back and maybe I can give him that now.' Sunday's game against Everton at Old Trafford will be the 4,000th United game to feature a homegrown player. Lingard hopes to recover from a knee injury to play for the club he joined when he was seven.
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Post by ratbag on Dec 14, 2019 11:11:44 GMT
Lingard's difficulties — kept private until today — began earlier in the season when his mother Kirsty became unwell. This left 27-year-old Jesse to care for his younger brother Jasper, 14, and 11-year-old sister Daisy-Boo. ... Sounds like that's an explanation for some of his performances and hopefully that is now behind him... I know he can be a bit of a twat at times but I am one of the few (I think) who thinks he is a decent lad...maybe not the best player we have but when he is on his game, he definitely adds some urgency to our play... I am glad his form has improved and hope that it continues... Having said that, it doesn't mean that we don't need reinforcements in this area...
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Post by aussiegraham on Dec 14, 2019 13:25:57 GMT
Lingard's difficulties — kept private until today — began earlier in the season when his mother Kirsty became unwell. This left 27-year-old Jesse to care for his younger brother Jasper, 14, and 11-year-old sister Daisy-Boo. ... Sounds like that's an explanation for some of his performances and hopefully that is now behind him... I know he can be a bit of a twat at times but I am one of the few (I think) who thinks he is a decent lad...maybe not the best player we have but when he is on his game, he definitely adds some urgency to our play... I am glad his form has improved and hope that it continues... Having said that, it doesn't mean that we don't need reinforcements in this area... I’d be depressed if my sister was called Daisy-Boo
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Post by Karma on Dec 14, 2019 13:43:22 GMT
Still shouldn’t get a new contract though.
Not good enough for a club at this level, private life aside.
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Post by Stew on Dec 14, 2019 14:02:44 GMT
Sounds like that's an explanation for some of his performances and hopefully that is now behind him... I know he can be a bit of a twat at times but I am one of the few (I think) who thinks he is a decent lad...maybe not the best player we have but when he is on his game, he definitely adds some urgency to our play... I am glad his form has improved and hope that it continues... Having said that, it doesn't mean that we don't need reinforcements in this area... I’d be depressed if my sister was called Daisy-Boo Not your finest hour.
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Post by caino on Dec 14, 2019 14:10:27 GMT
Still shouldn’t get a new contract though. Not good enough for a club at this level, private life aside. I’m fine with him gettin a new contract as long as it’s not big wages. He’s a good squad player
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 14:20:50 GMT
Doesn't deserve a new contract. Fuck him off. Stop rewarding deadwood and get rid of them. Being "Rashfords friend" isn't a good enough reason because his football side sure as hell isn't.
Feel for the lad for what's gone on off the field but sorry he hasn't just been poor for the past 12 months, he's been average for the best part of the last 2-3 seasons.
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Post by Bestie on Dec 14, 2019 14:33:23 GMT
Still shouldn’t get a new contract though. Not good enough for a club at this level, private life aside. I’m fine with him gettin a new contract as long as it’s not big wages. He’s a good squad player He isn't. He's shite.
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Post by Bestie on Dec 14, 2019 14:40:43 GMT
Just to clarify, has he actually been suffering from depression/mental illness? Or is he just experiencing life outside the mollycoddled footballer's bubble?
I know it may seem callous and not understanding but it's a real issue that I've seen up close. While nobody should ever have to go through a tough time and be told, 'Just get on with it', I take it a little personally when it's used as an excuse for finding out life is hard sometimes.
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Post by Tatty on Dec 14, 2019 14:51:59 GMT
Just to clarify, has he actually been suffering from depression/mental illness? Or is he just experiencing life outside the mollycoddled footballer's bubble? I know it may seem callous and not understanding but it's a real issue that I've seen up close. While nobody should ever have to go through a tough time and be told, 'Just get on with it', I take it a little personally when it's used as an excuse for finding out life is hard sometimes. Reading between the lines, I'd say there's borderline depression there. Seems to have a good support network around him now, especially if the club are rallying round the lad. But get what you're saying. I'm going through an incredibly bad time. On anti-depressants and waiting to see a therapist to get over some long held stuff. If Jesse coming out and saying this helps even one other person, whether depressed or not, he's done a good thing.
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Post by redcase on Dec 14, 2019 15:03:47 GMT
There's no doubt that as a human being, I can sympathise with Lingard and his family troubles.
But he should not be playing at this football club.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jan 3, 2020 12:28:19 GMT
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Post by ratbag on Jan 5, 2020 21:59:16 GMT
It would appear that he has signed up with Raiola...
Fuck me. What a toxic partnership that is...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 0:36:28 GMT
Well hopefully the fat twat is in to find him a new club
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