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Post by Stew on Oct 7, 2020 20:29:23 GMT
Yeah it was myself who pointed that out yesterday. I think it’s an interesting development because it’s the first time we’ve seen a split. Is he going against his paymasters, as they won't be his paymasters much longer? Opposite.
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Post by caino on Oct 8, 2020 7:12:31 GMT
There’s obviously a lot of unrest from top down including Ed and ole. Keep up the heat. Hopefully this pandemic will see the end of them. They’re businessman at the end of the day and if It’s not a cash cow for them it doesn’t make sense keeping it.
Alternatively hire the right people and make this club a monster again and make serious amounts of money.
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Post by Stew on Oct 9, 2020 14:23:36 GMT
Leading European agent: "The problem of #mufc is they do not have a clear sport strategy. When you talk to United, you are not talking to football people. This is a pity because they are such a big club, such a historical club." #mulive [@theathleticuk]
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Post by juanveron on Nov 4, 2020 21:46:26 GMT
I like coming to this post from time to time, to remind us all how much Ed Woodward sucks and that no matter how poorly Ole does, we all know that ultimately, the real fault is Ed’s.
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Post by Stretty on Nov 4, 2020 21:54:45 GMT
I like coming to this post from time to time, to remind us all how much Ed Woodward sucks and that no matter how poorly Ole does, we all know that ultimately, the real fault is Ed’s. nope glazers
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Post by Karma on Nov 4, 2020 22:16:02 GMT
I like coming to this post from time to time, to remind us all how much Ed Woodward sucks and that no matter how poorly Ole does, we all know that ultimately, the real fault is Ed’s. Yes for hiring him in the first place and not sends him packing when it’s obvious how terrible he is.
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Post by juanveron on Nov 5, 2020 5:28:34 GMT
I like coming to this post from time to time, to remind us all how much Ed Woodward sucks and that no matter how poorly Ole does, we all know that ultimately, the real fault is Ed’s. Yes for hiring him in the first place and not sends him packing when it’s obvious how terrible he is. For hiring him in the first place and then setting him up for failure (paper thin squad last season, not addressing the deficiencies this season). For not creating a football structure in place to make it so that “the vision” isn’t dependent on manager A or manager B sticking around for X years. For spending hundreds of millions of pounds on the wrong players and then not spending what’s required on the right players. For us being in a 7 year long (and counting) spiral of failure -> something that might somehow seem like progress -> not capitalising on the progress -> decline -> failure. For not taking the freaking responsibility for how much he has failed in his job.
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Post by Karma on Nov 5, 2020 10:15:28 GMT
Yes for hiring him in the first place and not sends him packing when it’s obvious how terrible he is. For hiring him in the first place and then setting him up for failure (paper thin squad last season, not addressing the deficiencies this season). For not creating a football structure in place to make it so that “the vision” isn’t dependent on manager A or manager B sticking around for X years. For spending hundreds of millions of pounds on the wrong players and then not spending what’s required on the right players. For us being in a 7 year long (and counting) spiral of failure -> something that might somehow seem like progress -> not capitalising on the progress -> decline -> failure. For not taking the freaking responsibility for how much he has failed in his job. Every manager has been dealt the same hand. You hire a failed Cardiff manager and this is what you get. Moyes didn’t get the same opportunity to stink the place out as bad as this.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 5, 2020 11:11:43 GMT
For hiring him in the first place and then setting him up for failure (paper thin squad last season, not addressing the deficiencies this season). For not creating a football structure in place to make it so that “the vision” isn’t dependent on manager A or manager B sticking around for X years. For spending hundreds of millions of pounds on the wrong players and then not spending what’s required on the right players. For us being in a 7 year long (and counting) spiral of failure -> something that might somehow seem like progress -> not capitalising on the progress -> decline -> failure. For not taking the freaking responsibility for how much he has failed in his job. Every manager has been dealt the same hand. You hire a failed Cardiff manager and this is what you get. Moyes didn’t get the same opportunity to stink the place out as bad as this. And yet he did. Nothing any manager has done before or since will match the damage inflicted by David Moyes on this football club. We needed one season of stability and a genuine title challenge. Didn't even need to win the title, but even a minor Cup would have done. That would have shown everyone the dynasty would live beyond Ferguson. Instead we got Moyes.
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Post by Kojak on Nov 5, 2020 15:13:57 GMT
For hiring him in the first place and then setting him up for failure (paper thin squad last season, not addressing the deficiencies this season). For not creating a football structure in place to make it so that “the vision” isn’t dependent on manager A or manager B sticking around for X years. For spending hundreds of millions of pounds on the wrong players and then not spending what’s required on the right players. For us being in a 7 year long (and counting) spiral of failure -> something that might somehow seem like progress -> not capitalising on the progress -> decline -> failure. For not taking the freaking responsibility for how much he has failed in his job. Every manager has been dealt the same hand. You hire a failed Cardiff manager and this is what you get. Moyes didn’t get the same opportunity to stink the place out as bad as this. Moyes stunk the place out much worse than this. He inherited a side that won the league at a canter and turned us into a laughing stock before the end of preseason. You could argue I don’t feel as bad under Ole because I’ve gotten used to the misery, but Moyes got the ball rolling on assuring that the dull feelings of defeat, misery and despair became commonplace.
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Post by Karma on Nov 5, 2020 18:01:34 GMT
Every manager has been dealt the same hand. You hire a failed Cardiff manager and this is what you get. Moyes didn’t get the same opportunity to stink the place out as bad as this. Moyes stunk the place out much worse than this. He inherited a side that won the league at a canter and turned us into a laughing stock before the end of preseason. You could argue I don’t feel as bad under Ole because I’ve gotten used to the misery, but Moyes got the ball rolling on assuring that the dull feelings of defeat, misery and despair became commonplace. I know and was rightly sacked for it. That doesn’t absolve Solskjaer for being a shit manager but it seems to have taken an awfully long time for some fans to realise it. While I was accused continually of having an agenda against him for criticism of him.
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Post by Kojak on Nov 5, 2020 18:04:16 GMT
Moyes stunk the place out much worse than this. He inherited a side that won the league at a canter and turned us into a laughing stock before the end of preseason. You could argue I don’t feel as bad under Ole because I’ve gotten used to the misery, but Moyes got the ball rolling on assuring that the dull feelings of defeat, misery and despair became commonplace. I know and was rightly sacked for it. That doesn’t absolve Solskjaer for being a shit manager but it seems to have taken an awfully long time for some fans to realise it. While I was accused continually of having an agenda against him for criticism of him. IF you were accused of having an agenda against him it was probably because every single post from you is something about wanting him sacked and it has been for months.
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Post by Karma on Nov 5, 2020 18:28:06 GMT
I know and was rightly sacked for it. That doesn’t absolve Solskjaer for being a shit manager but it seems to have taken an awfully long time for some fans to realise it. While I was accused continually of having an agenda against him for criticism of him. IF you were accused of having an agenda against him it was probably because every single post from you is something about wanting him sacked and it has been for months. So I called him out early doors . Not an agenda. An opinion which has been proven correct.
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Post by kstandhand on Dec 4, 2020 11:17:01 GMT
Woodward spinning more bollocks. He is now claiming the emphasis & their plans are based on the summer transfer windows,so he actually wants everyone to believe they planned & do all their business within the last few days of the longest ever window & sign; A player OGS obviously didn't want for £40 mill. A right back for over £25mill who could have been signed for zero on a pre contract this Jan. Two young players that virtually nobody knew anything about ,one with less than 30 mins senior football to his name. A 33 Year old CF on a free that had been available for months & who is far removed from the reboot, DNA narrative he has been spinning for the last two years So is he just spinning more bollocks or really confirming what most of us already knew,he is completely incompetent & they have do not any plan whatsoever I'm going with a combination of the later,there is no plan & the lies are spun to string the punters along on false promises from one window to the next.
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Post by juanveron on Dec 4, 2020 11:45:14 GMT
I’m sure Ole had a plan coming into the summer window, it’s just that signing good players costs a lot of money and Ed and the Glazers didn’t want to do that.
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