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Post by Bestie on Jan 19, 2017 17:05:51 GMT
Some said that about Pogba.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Jan 19, 2017 18:00:02 GMT
This was published an hour ago by Sport Witness. As far as everyone is concerned, Memphis Depay is basically a Lyon player. While the Manchester United forward’s transfer is yet to be made official, the French club’s Twitter account published a picture of the player in Lyon on Wednesday night, who quickly travelled to finalise the proceedings. The Red Devils, who spent over £25m to sign Depay from PSV Eindhoven in 2015, have done well to recoup most of the original fee paid, providing he meets the bonuses included by Lyon. Despite all of this looking rosy, and everyone in France and England mostly agreeing on the financial side of things, one detail remains a source of disagreement: the so called buy-back clause. Every British outlet, including the BBC, have reported Manchester United included a buy-back clause in the deal with Lyon, which would allow them to cut the player’s time in France short if he performs well, in exchange for the agreed price in the clause. A perfect example of this is what Real Madrid did with Alvaro Morata in the summer, paying a pre-agreed £25.5m to Juventus following the striker’s two seasons in Italy to bring him back to the Bernabeú. However, the vast majority of the French journalists insist there is no such clause in the deal taking Depay to Ligue 1. Why? Because such clauses are illegal in France. The only ones going along with the buy-back clause scenario are Le Parisien, with the amount, according to their sources, being somewhere above €30m. Yet, a quick look at Article 202 of LFP’s administrative rules regarding players and managers tells you everything you need to know about the situation, quashing Le Parisien’s claims in the process. It states: “Club directors cannot sign off on a contract containing a ‘release clause’ (pre-agreeing, in exchange for compensation, the breach of the contract by either of the contracting parties), ‘cancellation clause’ or a unilateral termination clause with a French or foreign professional player, whether it be with the player or the club.” Considering a buy-back clause falls under those terms as it would be a pre-agreement that would ‘breach the contract’ Depay and both clubs are about to sign, it seems there is little chance of one being included in the deal. What can be done, however, is the inclusion of a ‘first option’ agreement, meaning were Lyon to accept a bid for Depay down the line, they would then have to notify Manchester United, who in turn would be able to match said offer with their own, with it being automatically accepted. Either that, or both parties negotiated a “gentleman’s agreement” regarding a buy-back price, which would therefore never be officially signed off on, but could be ‘triggered’ in the future by the Premier League side. Lyon wouldn’t legally have to accept the offer, but you may expect them to nonetheless if they hold aspirations of dealing with Manchester United in the future. It could simply be the Red Devils announced the buy-back clause as official to journalists in order to appease the fans following the rather monumental cock-up that was letting Paul Pogba leave to Juventus on a free before buying him back for £89m three years later. The rules in France, however, are very clear: no official buy-back clauses. And any side agreement simply isn’t enforceable. sportwitness.co.uk/man-uniteds-memphis-depay-mystery-buy-back-clause/Here is the entire explanation. Let's just hope we covered ourselves well. |
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Post by Sméagol on Jan 19, 2017 18:07:06 GMT
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jan 20, 2017 11:31:27 GMT
That could be because the French law doesn't allow buyback clauses. Given that the English press said that there is one, it could be a gentlemen's agreement. No-one said anything about it being part of the original deal. Nothing stopping the parties putting one in place in a separate deal |
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Post by RAZ on Jan 20, 2017 12:03:14 GMT
Why are there rumours about de gea leaving?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 12:08:43 GMT
Why are there rumours about de gea leaving? There are none, worth reading |
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Post by Tatty on Jan 20, 2017 12:44:03 GMT
Mempis gone is now official.
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Post by boris on Jan 20, 2017 13:05:11 GMT
Good riddance.
A nice 40mil to lower our net spend for this season (Depay and Schneiderlin) and he gets to buy another Rolls Royce with his signing on fee.
Martial next I hope, but although i don't rate him at all (Solely Attitudinal, not talent), not getting in a replacement Left Forward in first would be negligent...
Also, No 7 free !
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Post by mightyez on Jan 20, 2017 13:10:32 GMT
It is a big operation, since I think it will be around 16.5 million euros, plus 8 million bonuses. It is a heavy investment.
"Manchester bought him from Eindhoven for 34 million, plus 8 (bonus). I understand that a number of Eindhoven bonuses are due in case of transfer. There is a whole literature to be written and that is what the legal services of both clubs are doing. But we are used to working with Manchester United, which is a very structured club and generally keeps its word.
if Aulas is right on that then PSV totally negotiated a superb deal
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Post by Sméagol on Jan 20, 2017 13:11:43 GMT
Good riddance. A nice 40mil to lower our net spend for this season (Depay and Schneiderlin) and he gets to buy another Rolls Royce with his signing on fee. Martial next I hope, but although i don't rate him at all (Solely Attitudinal, not talent), not getting in a replacement Left Forward in first would be negligent... Also, No 7 free !  |
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Post by ratbag on Jan 20, 2017 13:11:55 GMT
It is a big operation, since I think it will be around 16.5 million euros, plus 8 million bonuses. It is a heavy investment. "Manchester bought him from Eindhoven for 34 million, plus 8 (bonus). I understand that a number of Eindhoven bonuses are due in case of transfer. There is a whole literature to be written and that is what the legal services of both clubs are doing. But we are used to working with Manchester United, which is a very structured club and generally keeps its word. if Aulas is right on that then PSV totally negotiated a superb deal Reaches for large pinch of salt... |
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Post by RAZ on Jan 20, 2017 13:14:11 GMT
Good riddance. A nice 40mil to lower our net spend for this season (Depay and Schneiderlin) and he gets to buy another Rolls Royce with his signing on fee. Martial next I hope, but although i don't rate him at all (Solely Attitudinal, not talent), not getting in a replacement Left Forward in first would be negligent... Also, No 7 free ! Please take smeagols comment and inject it into your veins |
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Post by Stew on Jan 20, 2017 13:14:54 GMT
Good riddance. A nice 40mil to lower our net spend for this season (Depay and Schneiderlin) and he gets to buy another Rolls Royce with his signing on fee. Martial next I hope, but although i don't rate him at all (Solely Attitudinal, not talent), not getting in a replacement Left Forward in first would be negligent... Also, No 7 free ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 13:15:28 GMT
Good riddance. A nice 40mil to lower our net spend for this season (Depay and Schneiderlin) and he gets to buy another Rolls Royce with his signing on fee. Martial next I hope, but although i don't rate him at all (Solely Attitudinal, not talent), not getting in a replacement Left Forward in first would be negligent... Also, No 7 free ! I need to stop skimming posts, I totally missed that. You shouldn't use that word, but at times I can see why it is used |
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Post by Stew on Jan 20, 2017 13:17:42 GMT
I need to stop skimming posts, I totally missed that. You shouldn't use that word, but at times I can see why it is used It's the only time it's acceptable. And boy is it acceptable in this instance. |
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