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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 11:08:57 GMT
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Post by johnboy14 on Jun 24, 2016 11:09:17 GMT
The older generation has fucked the younger generations right up the arse. If the younger generation got off there asses and voted then things would be much different. My generation don't vote en mass. |
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Post by NR7 on Jun 24, 2016 11:38:18 GMT
Rustin- I don't think buying established players will be any more difficult, ie Zlat would apply for and get a work permit easily. However, you can say goodbye to signing anymore TFMs, Perrerias and Andnans at the age we did. Why is that? Just like Rafael, for eg, can't they apply for a permit under special talent clause? I presume some skill based dispensation would be included. Also, since when are the rich affected by policies, anyway?  Apart from paying more fee as a consequence of weakened pound, don't see transfers being affected owing to work permit issues. |
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Post by NR7 on Jun 24, 2016 11:45:35 GMT
If the politicos, economists themselves didn't have clarity on the subject, then it's proof of how complex and far reaching the issue is. And general public shouldn't be deciding on such outcomes imho.
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Post by Stew on Jun 24, 2016 11:53:17 GMT
Robbed from elsewhere:
"The last time they left a decision of this importance up to the British public, Jordan Henderson ended up on the cover of FIFA"
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Post by bushy1987 on Jun 24, 2016 12:03:48 GMT
Very very happy that leave won, fully convinced we will survive and prosper on our own as a country
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Post by Stew on Jun 24, 2016 12:04:28 GMT
Guardian:
So the votes are in. Britain’s status as a member of the European Union is now on borrowed time after the victory for Brexit campaign. But what could that mean for professional sport in the United Kingdom?
Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union establishes the procedures for a member state to withdraw from the EU. Once that is invoked, Britain will have a two-year window in which to negotiate a new treaty to replace the terms of EU membership.
According to Paul Shapiro, an associate at law firm Charles Russell Speechlys, that means the real effects could take some time to filter through, although he predicts a significant impact on various issues from the increased cost of transfers (West Ham’s €40m offer to buy Marseille’s Michy Batshuayi was worth £31m on Thursday but now already equates to more than £34m) to problems with work permits for players from EU countries.
“While the focus of the UK’s withdrawal from the European Union is likely to be on the impact on the City and migration, the impact on the sports world could be significant,” said Shapiro.
“However, we will not know how significant this will be until we have a clearer idea of the terms the UK negotiates for its continued relationship with the EU. If the agreement with the EU includes broad free movement obligations, such as those currently in place with EEA members, the current position regarding the movement of players between the continent and the UK will most likely continue.
“If, instead, an agreement is reached which includes restrictions on the movement of persons and services, the impact on the sports world would be more significant. Firstly, English players may not be able to move to the continent freely and EU nationals could be subject to entry restrictions when seeking to play in England, if post- Brexit they are treated in the same way as current non-EU nationals.”
At the last count, there were more than 400 players plying their trade in the top two divisions in England and Scotland, with the vast majority unlikely to pass the stringent work permit requirements introduced by the Football Association in March 2015. Previously, in order to qualify to play in the UK, players needed to have played in at least 75per cent of their country’s senior international matches over the previous two years.
The new requirements state that non-EEA (European Economic Area) players will have to meet a minimum percentage of international matches played for their country over the previous 24 month period, as determined by that country’s Fifa world ranking – a model that is now likely to be extended to include players from EU countries as well. Freedom of movement, a principle central to the European project, has previously allowed players to earn a living in the UK without the need for a complicated work permit process.
“Leaving the EU will have a much bigger effect on football than people think,” football agent Rachel Anderson told the BBC in March.
“We’re talking about half of the Premier League needing work permits. The short-term impact would be huge but you could argue it will help in the long term as it could force clubs to concentrate on home-grown talent.”
Some supporters may not agree. Under the current rules, for example, Morgan Schneiderlin, Yohan Cabaye, Anthony Martial and N’Golo Kanté would no longer be eligible for a work permit having not featured in more than 45per cent of France’s matches since June 2014.
Brexit could also spell the end of the influx of teenage players from the European Union, who were previously considered as “homegrown” players who, irrespective of his nationality or age, “has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday”. Current Premier League rules state that clubs must include eight such players out of a squad of 25, with Chelsea’s Cesc Fàbregas among those whose status would change.
“British football clubs may find themselves only able to sign foreign players over the age of 18 as, outside the EU/ EEA, they would no longer be able to benefit from the exception under the current Fifa regulations given for transfers involving 16 and 17 year old footballers within the EU/EEA,” explained Shapiro.
“If EU law ceases to apply in the UK, the organisers of sports competitions may be able to more effectively restrict the number of foreign players that feature in matchday squads as they could potentially include EU nationals and Kolpak players within any foreign player quota. Some governing bodies may see this as advantageous in that it would allow them to discriminate in favour of the development of English qualified players to the potential advantage of the national team whereas it could be damaging to leagues/clubs who would be less competitive in their ability to attract the best players from across the continent.” ?
At present, there are estimated to be more than 70 cricketers employed by counties in England and Wales under the Kolpak agreement – named after a former Slovak handball goalkeeper who won his case against the German Handball Federation at European Court of Justice in 2003 to allow freedom of movement. As Stephen Vaughan, Gloucester’s chief executive, explained to the Guardian last month, the impact on rugby could be even more wide-reaching.
“If we were out of the EU, the Kolpak ruling would no longer apply here and we would have to lobby and explain how players could find themselves unemployed and how harder it would be for clubs to recruit players,” Vaughan said. “It is a great unknown that we are concerned about.”
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Post by Tatty on Jun 24, 2016 12:06:37 GMT
Very very happy that leave won, fully convinced we will survive and prosper on our own as a country Even with the potential loss of Scotland and Northern Ireland from the Union? |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 24, 2016 12:10:40 GMT
The other thing is the twats at the FA will be able to impose the English quotas that they've always wanted. We could be looking at having to have 5/6 Englishmen on the pitch at all times. Would massively weaken the quality of the league.
At least seeing City & Pep respond would be funny. Delph nailed on starter every game...
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Post by Stew on Jun 24, 2016 12:15:35 GMT
Global stocks are poised for their worst daily loss ever
More than £1.5 trillion is expected to be wiped off world stocks today as the Brexit bloodbath sends global stock markets into free fall.
Global stocks are now poised for their worst daily loss ever.
In just four hours of trading, the FTSE 100 has lost 4.4pc, with some £73bn wiped off the value of Britain's biggest companies.
Meanwhile, European bourses are also reeling from the shock result. Frankfurt's DAX is down 7.3pc and the CAC in Paris has fallen 8.7pc.
The referendum outcome hit Greek stocks hardest, with the country's benchmark index plunging 15.3pc.
In the US, stocks futures are tanking in pre-market trading. The S&P 500 and Nasdaq futures are both off by 3.6pc and the Dow Jones has tumbled 2.8pc.
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Post by bushy1987 on Jun 24, 2016 12:17:05 GMT
Very very happy that leave won, fully convinced we will survive and prosper on our own as a country Even with the potential loss of Scotland and Northern Ireland from the Union? Yeah I think we would be fine, but I'm on the leave side, so a little biased, I would like to think we have enough resources and enough about our selfs to be able to survive with out the 2 countries you just mentioned, I think Scotland will leave not to sure about ni. There will definitely be a few years of ups and downs but hopefully in the long run its what's best for us as a country |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 12:42:37 GMT
The older generation has fucked the younger generations right up the arse. The older generation made sure you wasn't part of a German empire in the first place, never mind Europe. Nobody knows what is going to happen, so if you'd like to enlighten us to how the next generation is fucked, when we don't know what will happen next year, never mind the next 20 years, then please share your knowledge. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 12:47:19 GMT
Working in the transport and retail industry as I do, it will get interesting to see how this affects our business with regards to employees. Due to a chronic shortage of class 1 drivers about 10 years ago, we were effectively rescued when Poland joined the EU, and supplied us with the staff we required. We were able to expand our business exponentially as a result. Obviously staying in the single market would be our ideal situation, because we face very uncertain times otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 12:50:56 GMT
Working in the transport and retail industry as I do, it will get interesting to see how this affects our business with regards to employees. Due to a chronic shortage of class 1 drivers about 10 years ago, we were effectively rescued when Poland joined the EU, and supplied us with the staff we required. We were able to expand our business exponentially as a result. Obviously staying in the single market would be our ideal situation, because we face very uncertain times otherwise. Transport and logistics companies stopping treating their drivers like cunts would be a start, I speak to drivers everyday that work for DHL, both British and Foreign and they all have nothing but bad words for the management. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 12:52:15 GMT
Working in the transport and retail industry as I do, it will get interesting to see how this affects our business with regards to employees. Due to a chronic shortage of class 1 drivers about 10 years ago, we were effectively rescued when Poland joined the EU, and supplied us with the staff we required. We were able to expand our business exponentially as a result. Obviously staying in the single market would be our ideal situation, because we face very uncertain times otherwise. Transport and logistics companies stopping treating their drivers like cunts would be a start, I speak to drivers everyday that work for DHL, both British and Foreign and they all have nothing but bad words for the management. Now that i do concur with. My company are cunts of the highest order, to drivers and non drivers. |
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