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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 8, 2016 13:35:44 GMT
Also, I'm obviously an In voter, but it is hilarious & ironic that Cameron is now cursing the changes to the registration rules that he made in order to stop as many young people from voting. It was a prick move with no basis other than self-serving disenfranchisement. If the In campaign loses because not enough young people were registered I'll enjoy that schadenfreude.
Personally if I was in charge I'd make general election and nationwide referendum voting compulsory, add in 'none of the above' and write in options, and put a token fine (probably £20) for those who don't vote that I wouldn't even collect, so anyone who really does want to refuse to vote for political reasons can. I believe Australia does it and it massively improves their turnout. Also electronic voting (if secure enough), making the polling day a national holiday, and sending a booklet to every household with a page written by each candidate to be their MP on what they stand for and where to find more info about them, which would be expensive but could have wonderful results.
Also, in case this post came off as hating on the Tories, I'm not anti Tory at all. I just thought that the changes to voter registration were cynical bullshit.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 8, 2016 13:37:34 GMT
I was already on the register - I voted last year - and I re-registered a couple of months ago. I don't need my polling card anyway - I know where my polling station is and you don't need to bring it with you. So why make a point of it? Should of just said you didn't need it. You Pro-Euro dudes, never just tell the truth, do you?  |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 8, 2016 14:13:10 GMT
Voter registration has been extended for the rest of today only. Please, if you haven't done so already, register no matter which side you are on (or if you are undecided). If you aren't sure then register anyway - it takes 2 minutes and about two thirds of last minute registrations come from people already registered, so you aren't alone. Better to be safe than sorry. www.gov.uk/register-to-vote |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 14:16:07 GMT
Voter registration has been extended for the rest of today only. Please, if you haven't done so already, register no matter which side you are on (or if you are undecided) if you haven't already. If you aren't sure then register anyway - it takes 2 minutes and about two thirds of last minute registrations come from people already registered, so you aren't alone. Better to be safe than sorry. www.gov.uk/register-to-voteTypical Pro-Euro speak. We want to be alone!! |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jun 8, 2016 18:10:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 19:13:15 GMT
Changed my mind after that tweet from the well known Politician and Economist, Professor Brian Cox. For someone who only deals in facts, there's not a whole lot in there. |
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Post by Bestie on Jun 8, 2016 20:56:04 GMT
Pretty sure the £ 10 bn is per annum, and those spending figures aren't there, Professor. |
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Post by Max United on Jun 22, 2016 21:06:15 GMT
I hope England makes the right choice. Leave Europe and make Britain Great Again  . |
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Post by Deez on Jun 22, 2016 22:01:45 GMT
I was firmly in the leave camp at the start of this campaign but I'm going to vote remain tomorrow, I think.
No one really knows the long term effects and things really aren't that bad at the moment so why risk it?
One thing though, the campaigners for both parties have acted pathetically. Remain voters branding leavers racist, leavers slating remainers.
The amount of outright lying and smearing from both sides has been a joke from the beginning. There's been no respect for other peoples opinions and choices in this campaign
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Post by Bestie on Jun 22, 2016 22:51:08 GMT
I was firmly in the leave camp at the start of this campaign but I'm going to vote remain tomorrow, I think. No one really knows the long term effects and things really aren't that bad at the moment so why risk it? One thing though, the campaigners for both parties have acted pathetically. Remain voters branding leavers racist, leavers slating remainers. The amount of outright lying and smearing from both sides has been a joke from the beginning. There's been no respect for other peoples opinions and choices in this campaign Things are that bad and getting worse though. Merkel and Hollande have the final aim of a federalised European state. We need to get out of a broken system before they get their way. |
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Post by Deez on Jun 22, 2016 22:57:58 GMT
I was firmly in the leave camp at the start of this campaign but I'm going to vote remain tomorrow, I think. No one really knows the long term effects and things really aren't that bad at the moment so why risk it? One thing though, the campaigners for both parties have acted pathetically. Remain voters branding leavers racist, leavers slating remainers. The amount of outright lying and smearing from both sides has been a joke from the beginning. There's been no respect for other peoples opinions and choices in this campaign Things are that bad and getting worse though. Merkel and Hollande have the final aim of a federalised European state. We need to get out of a broken system before they get their way. I agree, that's why I originally leant towards leave but neither you, nor I know the long term consequences of leaving. I've changed my mind 3 times in the past week. I'm not an expert on the economy, I really don't know much about it to be honest which is why I'm taking the advice of the experts and 9/10 agree there would be an immediate crash of the pound and the chances of a recession are high and there would be no help for us like how we have bailed out Greece, Spain etc. I'll probably change my mind again when you come back with a convincing argument... |
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Post by Bestie on Jun 22, 2016 23:10:54 GMT
Things are that bad and getting worse though. Merkel and Hollande have the final aim of a federalised European state. We need to get out of a broken system before they get their way. I agree, that's why I originally leant towards leave but neither you, nor I know the long term consequences of leaving. I've changed my mind 3 times in the past week. I'm not an expert on the economy, I really don't know much about it to be honest which is why I'm taking the advice of the experts and 9/10 agree there would be an immediate crash of the pound and the chances of a recession are high and there would be no help for us like how we have bailed out Greece, Spain etc. I'll probably change my mind again when you come back with a convincing argument... * Emerging Asian & African economies who we're unable to build strong trading relationships with because we're part of an inward looking EU. * A continual rise in house prices and fall in living standards. * The continual widening gap between the working class and upper class. * An NHS that isn't an NHS but a fully privatised glorified health insurance premium. * Economic union with countries running at up to 50% youth unemployment. * Real threat of collapse of the Euro when the life support machine Greece and Spain are on finally runs out of German batteries. * Further destruction of British industry as we battle to follow rules imposed by unelected Eurocrats. * Turkey's eventual, certain no matter when, full EU membership. That's what you're voting for if you tick 'Remain' tomorrow. No mud slinging, no fudged facts and figures. Just what is it now. |
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Post by Deez on Jun 22, 2016 23:21:05 GMT
Aaaand I'm voting Leave!
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Post by Deez on Jun 22, 2016 23:21:54 GMT
Nah I'm joking, I do take the points, both sides have strong negatives and positives and I really can't seperate them. I'm just yet to be swayed to the point of committing whole-heartedly to an option, I'm going to keep researching until I find something tonight, but I've been saying that for months.
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Post by Bestie on Jun 22, 2016 23:31:59 GMT
Then put it this way, you only truly regret the things you didn't do in life.
Leaving the EU is a risk, of course it is, but the potential positives of doing it are worth it. Imagine if the Wright brothers had decided flying was too risky or we had all collectively decided space travel was too dangerous to attempt after every failed shuttle launch.
With risk comes reward.
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