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Post by dokgolf on Jan 10, 2017 22:43:22 GMT
they probably bugged his toupee
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 23:17:45 GMT
Here's a report
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Jan 11, 2017 2:51:54 GMT
Obama's final speech is on.
I'm not ready to live in the world of the extreme right-wing, especially when it should've been naturally eroded.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Jan 20, 2017 0:23:46 GMT
Trump will be officially president today.
Le Monde here published an interesting article that I've taken the initiative to translate and share with you. It's a long piece, apologies if there's any mistakes.
"Lost in Trumpslation" or the difficult art of translating Donald Trump.
In mid-December, Bérengère Viennot told Slate about his difficulties in translating Donald Trump into French. First "shock statements" and "murderous tweets", then speeches, a fortiori since the candidate became the winner. Donald Trump's speech is "easy to understand," but his lack of vocabulary is such that it greatly complicates the task of the translator. Last spring, a study by Carnegie Mellon University, widely reported in the United States, showed that Donald Trump's speech grammar level was just below the sixth grade.
Bérengère Viennot gives the example of the interview granted to the New York Times, at the end of November. According to her, since he has to improvise answers without a written speech or notes, "he clung desperately to the words contained in the question put to him, without being able to flesh it out with his own thought." For example, the editor-in-chief, Dean Baquet, asks him if he has held a speech in his campaign to "energize" the American extreme right, and how he plans to manage it now. His answer:
– I don't think so, Dean. First of all, I don't want to galvanize the group. I'm not trying to galvanize them. I don't want to galvanize the band, and I want to disown the band. They, again, I don't know if it's journalists or what. I don't know where they were four years ago, and where they were for Romney and McCain and all the others who came forward, so I don't know, I had nothing as a comparison. But this is not a band I want to galvanize, and if they are galvanized I want to look into the question and find out why.
This example illustrates the fact that Donald Trump, even recognizing the difficulty of improvising an answer, simply "repeats the same words in a loop".
RECREATE A PRINT IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE The work of translation consists not so much in translating words but in translating thoughts and personality, in order "to create in the reader the same impression and reflection as those which have arisen in the original reader."
Trump's precarious vocabulary obliges one who wants to make him understood in another language to find stratagems to give relief to his speech.
Bérengère Viennot describes a vocabulary monopolized by some hyperbolic adjectives. "Great" returns 45 times in the New York Times interview, with also "tremendous", "incredible", "strong" and "tough". There are various ways of translating these adjectives into French, which refer to different levels of language and correction. She gave the example of this statement:
"I mentioned them at the Republican National Convention! And everybody said: “That's so great.”"
She chose to translate it into a familiar register by "it was very good".
"I had to translate the expression of childish and self-satisfied enthusiasm" She added
COUNTRY STRATEGY OR STRATEGIC THOUGHT?
The translator appeals to the Communist George Marchais in the USSR: his speech was relayed only by a "chastened" interpreter who lent him a Reputation for elegance, far from the one he had in France.
This is the great responsibility of the press translator, which Bérengère Viennot describes more extensively in the American literary review 'Los Angeles Review of Books', a few days before the inauguration of President Trump.
It is therefore not only a question of words but of the image of the politician, whether it is consciously disclosed by the latter or not. Such is the dilemma of the translator: is it necessary to translate Trump as he speaks, and to let the French readers work on a text of poor quality? Or smooth out its chopped syntax and risk letting it think that it is normally expressed, like any other head of state?
As the translator explained in Slate, using a simple vocabulary to reach people and stand out from a political elite judged to be disconnected would have been a "valid" strategy during the campaign. But "in Trump's case, it was not a strategy: it is obvious that its limited vocabulary reflects a narrow thought."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 0:30:21 GMT
The only possible positive I can see coming from this is the republicans get sick of him & remove him & replace him with Pence. a slight improvement. Every time you look at it it just gets worse. He's only hired 28 people & he starts tomorrow. Genuinely think this fucks America. Some of the most well off parts will be o.k. Others will be in complete disarray unless this fuck is removed from office soon. There will be global ramifications too. Anyone who thinks it will probably just blow over & people will keep it running smoothly are absolutely dreaming in my eyes.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Jan 20, 2017 0:34:06 GMT
The only possible positive I can see coming from this is the republicans get sick of him & remove him & replace him with Pence. a slight improvement. Every time you look at it it just gets worse. He's only hired 28 people & he starts tomorrow. Genuinely think this fucks America. Some of the most well off parts will be o.k. Others will be in complete disarray unless this fuck is removed from office soon. There will be global ramifications too. Anyone who thinks it will probably just blow over & people will keep it running smoothly are absolutely dreaming in my eyes. Pence, the conversion therapy maniac? He's not better than Trump. Maybe not smoothly but he will somehow get 4 years in the White House.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 0:44:24 GMT
The only possible positive I can see coming from this is the republicans get sick of him & remove him & replace him with Pence. a slight improvement. Every time you look at it it just gets worse. He's only hired 28 people & he starts tomorrow. Genuinely think this fucks America. Some of the most well off parts will be o.k. Others will be in complete disarray unless this fuck is removed from office soon. There will be global ramifications too. Anyone who thinks it will probably just blow over & people will keep it running smoothly are absolutely dreaming in my eyes. Pence, the conversion therapy maniac? He's not better than Trump. Maybe not smoothly but he will somehow get 4 years in the White House. He is better than Trump. He's a career politician that will be held accountable for his actions as well as actually going to intelligence briefing. Trump doesn't just have bad policies like Pence but he's a freaking loose cannon & every single thing he does ties back to Russia. Think Pence is bad? Putin's worse. A disrupted Europe is worse. A pissed off China is worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 0:46:38 GMT
Oh and I forgot that the fact he's quite clearly showing signs of dementia or extreme mental fatigue. He can't even finish a sentence anymore.
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Post by Bestie on Jan 20, 2017 0:57:25 GMT
Trump is incompetent.
Pence is a devil.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 1:05:28 GMT
Trump is incompetent. Pence is a devil. Personally I just don't agree that Trumps intentions are fine or not intentionally bad or whatever. I fully believe that most of his intentions are just to screw people/a whole country for his own benefit. I hope i'm wrong though. Trump himself hired Pence & I think that speak volumes.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Jan 20, 2017 1:17:53 GMT
Pence, the conversion therapy maniac? He's not better than Trump. Maybe not smoothly but he will somehow get 4 years in the White House. He is better than Trump. He's a career politician that will be held accountable for his actions as well as actually going to intelligence briefing. Trump doesn't just have bad policies like Pence but he's a freaking loose cannon & every single thing he does ties back to Russia. Think Pence is bad? Putin's worse. A disrupted Europe is worse. A pissed off China is worse. They're both devils. Trump is a loose canon indeed but Pence can make things appear legal when they are not and this is the worst kind of politician. On Europe – France is over the edge. Calais settlement, labour law agreements that are a retrocess, inequality is rising, frexit talks started to gain pace (not just to complain about the EU, that's has always existed. Leftist parties are pro-referendum too). Polls here showed a couple of months ago that Sarkozy was the only one polling well against Le Pen yet he has lost his party's primaries. Hollande is more of a conservative (and reactionary) than majority of the politicians affiliated to such parties. Oh, and Valls is running. I can't see a single place in the world the ultra right-wing populism hasn't ravaged. Even Austria electing the Green Party president. Edit: Hollande/Valls govt has worried about some serious issues though such as public security. Burqas and Burkinis are life-threatening.
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