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Post by Karma on Mar 4, 2018 18:20:27 GMT
I don't think you should be able to play for any nation other than the country of your birth.
It's a big sham imo.
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Post by CaajScot on Mar 4, 2018 18:55:35 GMT
Manchester United midfielder Scott McTominay has decided to pledge his international future to Scotland.
By Simon Stone BBC Sport 2 hours ago|Man Utd
McTominay, 21, met Scotland boss Alex McLeish at United's Carrington training ground on Thursday.
England boss Gareth Southgate was due to visit United on Friday but it is understood McTominay did not meet him. McTominay, who has made 15 appearances for United this season, was born in Lancaster but qualifies for Scotland due to his Glaswegian father. He is yet to play for either country at any level. McTominay was selected by Jose Mourinho ahead of £89m record signing Paul Pogba for the Champions League last-16 draw with Sevilla last month. He made his senior debut against Arsenal in May and has played 17 games, including starting the past three. McTominay, who has been associated with United since he was five, signed a new contract in October that will keep him at Old Trafford until 2021. Analysis
Former Scotland striker James McFadden speaking on BBC Scotland's Sportsound.
His stature, how he goes about his game, he reminds me of Darren Fletcher, and if we can get someone who has been as good for Scotland as Darren Fletcher it's a great acquisition. I know you don't really sign players for the international team but England was interested in him, and it's fantastic he's chosen to play for Scotland. Not because he's not good enough for England but because he wants to play for Scotland and that's great to see. He's a fantastic young player and it's great for us as a country. I'm sure he would have met with Alex [Mcleish] and straight away got to see what kind of guy he is. That's what struck me when I met him as a young player. He's a great guy, and he gets the best out of players. It's a huge notch for him to get someone with the huge talent of McTominay to come and play for us. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43279384
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 19:24:45 GMT
I don't think you should be able to play for any nation other than the country of your birth. It's a big sham imo. That statement makes no sense if you were born while your parents were on holiday. There's more to nationality than where you popped out of the vagina. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 19:31:11 GMT
I'm sure I read he's always preferred the idea of playing for Scotland, so not a major surprise. Obviously must mean a lot to him to represent the country of his father, as all joking aside, England is the more attractive proposition in terms of looking at what he can achieve on the international stage. May never win anything but at least we're generally a shoe-in to make it to the tournament. He must feel really Scottish to want to play for them. They are pointless. |
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Post by Stew on Mar 4, 2018 20:08:02 GMT
So McTominay decides to piss away any potential international career eh? He decides he’d rather sit on his arse rather than compete at the business end of summer tournaments, to sign up to a country with a bizarre sense of its own importance, stuck in past glories while largely being irrelevant in International terms since the 90s, who instead-
Oh sorry, he didn’t declare for England. My mistake!
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Post by Karma on Mar 4, 2018 20:11:22 GMT
I don't think you should be able to play for any nation other than the country of your birth. It's a big sham imo. That statement makes no sense if you were born while your parents were on holiday. There's more to nationality than where you popped out of the vagina. Well that's slightly different from someone who's born and lived in a country only to play for another one. Such as all the ROI players who were English. Same goes for all the Welsh 'English ' players. How can that be right? |
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Post by Karma on Mar 4, 2018 20:16:26 GMT
So McTominay decides to piss away any potential international career eh? He decides he’d rather sit on his arse rather than compete at the business end of summer tournaments, to sign up to a country with a bizarre sense of its own importance, stuck in past glories while largely being irrelevant in International terms since the 90s, who instead- Oh sorry, he didn’t declare for England. My mistake! No instead he'll watch all his fellow English players going to the World Cup while he can look forward to the managerial heavyweight McCleish/his replacement for inspiration. There's not an abundance of midfielders for England hence why Livermore has been drafted in. Imo I think he's missed an opportunity here. |
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Post by Chris on Mar 4, 2018 20:21:23 GMT
So McTominay decides to piss away any potential international career eh? He decides he’d rather sit on his arse rather than compete at the business end of summer tournaments, to sign up to a country with a bizarre sense of its own importance, stuck in past glories while largely being irrelevant in International terms since the 90s, who instead- Oh sorry, he didn’t declare for England. My mistake! You sure are bitter about England mate. I never call you out on anything, but I find your attitude strange on this one. And not just you really. A lot on here. It basically sounds like non-English people would rather not be there at all than be in it and have no chance of winning it. Unless I'm missing something, it sounds so bitter and its a strange attitude to have. England won't win shit in my lifetime, I'm sure of that, but no international tournament almost every time would be so shit. And no English person actually believes England will win the world cup, even though non-English people think they do. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 20:23:37 GMT
So McTominay decides to piss away any potential international career eh? He decides he’d rather sit on his arse rather than compete at the business end of summer tournaments, to sign up to a country with a bizarre sense of its own importance, stuck in past glories while largely being irrelevant in International terms since the 90s, who instead- Oh sorry, he didn’t declare for England. My mistake! It's an honourable decision and his to make but he could be playing with the likes on Kane and Allifor the country in which he was born and raised. It's a bad decision imo but only he knows if he feels Scottish. |
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Post by Stew on Mar 4, 2018 20:25:14 GMT
So McTominay decides to piss away any potential international career eh? He decides he’d rather sit on his arse rather than compete at the business end of summer tournaments, to sign up to a country with a bizarre sense of its own importance, stuck in past glories while largely being irrelevant in International terms since the 90s, who instead- Oh sorry, he didn’t declare for England. My mistake! You sure are bitter about England mate. I never call you out on anything, but I find your attitude strange on this one. And not just you really. A lot on here. It basically sounds like non-English people would rather not be there at all than be in it and have no chance of winning it. Unless I'm missing something, it sounds so bitter and its a strange attitude to have. England won't win shit in my lifetime, I'm sure of that, but no international tournament almost every time would be so shit. And no English person actually believes England will win the world cup, even though non-English people think they do. It was a joke! |
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Post by Chris on Mar 4, 2018 20:28:41 GMT
You sure are bitter about England mate. I never call you out on anything, but I find your attitude strange on this one. And not just you really. A lot on here. It basically sounds like non-English people would rather not be there at all than be in it and have no chance of winning it. Unless I'm missing something, it sounds so bitter and its a strange attitude to have. England won't win shit in my lifetime, I'm sure of that, but no international tournament almost every time would be so shit. And no English person actually believes England will win the world cup, even though non-English people think they do. It was a joke! Still, it's not the first time. Though as I said, it wasn't just about your posts. I tend to stay quiet on the issue as I don't really care, but I had to speak up on this one since it involves one of our players. If its totally 50/50 in terms of nationally, his lack of ambition is a shame. If he's more towards the Scottish side, then right decision. |
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Post by Stew on Mar 4, 2018 20:36:43 GMT
Still, it's not the first time. Though as I said, it wasn't just about your posts. I tend to stay quiet on the issue as I don't really care, but I had to speak up on this one since it involves one of our players. If its totally 50/50 in terms of nationally, his lack of ambition is a shame. If he's more towards the Scottish side, then right decision. I must admit, I found his decision surprising. Obviously he must have a strong affinity tot Scotland, because all joking aside, they’re doing nothing on the International stage unless a Bale type figure emerges from somewhere. |
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Post by Chris on Mar 4, 2018 20:38:14 GMT
Still, it's not the first time. Though as I said, it wasn't just about your posts. I tend to stay quiet on the issue as I don't really care, but I had to speak up on this one since it involves one of our players. If its totally 50/50 in terms of nationally, his lack of ambition is a shame. If he's more towards the Scottish side, then right decision. I must admit, I found his decision surprising. Obviously he must have a strong affinity tot Scotland, because all joking aside, they’re doing nothing on the Inernational stage unless a Bale type figure emerges from somewhere. What, like Scott McTominay 😉 |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Mar 4, 2018 20:39:10 GMT
McTominay sounds more Scottish than English.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Mar 4, 2018 20:50:23 GMT
So McTominay decides to piss away any potential international career eh? He decides he’d rather sit on his arse rather than compete at the business end of summer tournaments, to sign up to a country with a bizarre sense of its own importance, stuck in past glories while largely being irrelevant in International terms since the 90s, who instead- Oh sorry, he didn’t declare for England. My mistake! Thanks for that, laughed my arse off  |
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